i wouldve thought that a few 100k could be knocked off the predictive future  salarys of what the club thought tyson, hunt, garlett would be worth at start of year, and allocated for TMAC

Edited May 21, 20186 yr by John Demonic

If I was tom id be asking for whatever Hogan is getting (from memory the talk at the time was he signed for unders compared to what he could have got to go home), I just hope the club has put enough away to pay for that plus whatever we need to resign the rest of our young talent as they come out of contract.

A few weeks ago it was said we had the cash to lure a free agent, I’m thinking after we sign The McDonald brothers as well as Brayshaw that money might be gone 

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:02, Petraccattack said:

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

have a feeling you are making stuff up for fun

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:02, Petraccattack said:

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

Dammit. That means Oscar will be a Sun as well. 

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:02, Petraccattack said:

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

Nobody wants to play for the Suns

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:02, Petraccattack said:

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

He's spent seven years at a struggling Melbourne who finally look like coming good (touch wood), there is no chance that he goes to another struggling club.

I think we have shown over the last few years that we know how to manage contract negotiations very well. If we were being managed like Carlton over the last decade, I'd be much more concerned.

Which makes me think...if we were Carlton, what would happen? I suspect we would trade Tom McDonald to the Gold Coast for their first round draft pick which is on-traded to GWS for 6 GWS fringe players to be added to our list.

And if we were Collingwood, we would be prepared to lose Tom McDonald in order to keep the dollars that he should earn in the pool just to make sure "favourite son" Weideman can be retained.

If we were St Kilda, we would look at trading Tom McDonald for three players who between them each have one or more recurrent, career-threatening injuries, off-field behavioural problems and are already known to be homesick for WA.

And if we were Fremantle, we'd be trading Tom McDonald to free up cash to pay secret payments to hush something up.   

Not worried about this in the slightest.

Same goes for Brayshaw and Oscar - all the dialogue has been that their manager and the club are in constant discussions about new deals and it's just ironing out a few of the finer points before it's all done.  There is no 'putting it off till the end of the year' stuff.  I reckon these guys will be signed, sealed and delivered by the end of June at the latest.

  On 21/05/2018 at 12:07, Demons11 said:

Buddy at 4?  

Mate please, he is number 1 by the length of the straight.

Depends on criteria, key forwards that can take the big park marks in crucial moments are valuable.

  On 22/05/2018 at 02:12, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Depends on criteria, key forwards that can take the big park marks in crucial moments are valuable.

Buddy is no.1 regardless of whatever criteria you apply. 

Surely both parties would be seeking minimum 4, maybe 5 year contract?

What's he worth a season... $700K or is that now too little?

It’s all about salary rotation. TMac is at the peak of his powers and will be paid accordingly. Gawn is currently in the middle of his, Jones is out of contract next year, whilst he will no doubt go on he’s had his time at the top. Petracca still has to earn his. 

At the end of the day we may lose someone but the majority should stay at the club.

  On 22/05/2018 at 02:24, McQueen said:

Surely both parties would be seeking minimum 4, maybe 5 year contract?

What's he worth a season... $700K or is that now too little?

700 would be a bargain. I expect some fluidity betwee p/a and years

Maybe 4.5 over 5... performance assured etc.

Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. 

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:56, Wiseblood said:

Not worried about this in the slightest.

Same goes for Brayshaw and Oscar - all the dialogue has been that their manager and the club are in constant discussions about new deals and it's just ironing out a few of the finer points before it's all done.  There is no 'putting it off till the end of the year' stuff.  I reckon these guys will be signed, sealed and delivered by the end of June at the latest.

Exactly. I won't be worried unless I hear that contracts negotiations have been put on hold until the end of the year.

My guess is they will negotiate more years on less coin.

Tom probably wants more money than we want to spend, so we are probably countering that with a longer term offer to give him stability. Maybe even offering Oscar an extra year or two as an incentive.

Tom is so fit and such an endurance athlete, I would have no issues giving him a 5 year deal. His versatility and aerobic capacity will see him play for another 7-8 years easily (pending any disastrous injury run)

  On 22/05/2018 at 02:58, juzzk1d said:

Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. 

Roos said last night you get nothing for 800000 now so I would expect closer to the 4000000 for 4 years

  On 22/05/2018 at 03:05, jackaub said:

Roos said last night you get nothing for 800000 now so I would expect closer to the 4000000 for 4 years

Exactly.

They mentioned Degoey..Has a few ripper games in the space of a few weeks and suddenly clubs like North are reportedly lining up to offer him 800k per year.

If that's the case, a player like Tmac with an amazing tank, can cover all of the ground and is that key lead up forward who can also pinch hit, play down back, on the wing AND is a dead eye should be worth 1mill per season if we are looking at comparing values here. 

  On 22/05/2018 at 02:58, juzzk1d said:

Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. 

Agree. I thought between 800 - 850 is about right. T Mac is going to bring massive value to our club and hopefully, the ultimate prize.

i tend to agree he's probably bordering on the $1m mark given his form since becoming a forward in order to entice away from the dees

if we can get him for anywhere under an average of $900k over 4-5 years i would have no qualms paying it

dude is a gun

And to think that there was a 'I'm over Tom McDonald' thread on here four years ago (and one whose main thesis was that he should be moved on because he couldn't kick straight).

  On 22/05/2018 at 03:02, Jaded said:

My guess is they will negotiate more years on less coin.

Tom probably wants more money than we want to spend, so we are probably countering that with a longer term offer to give him stability. Maybe even offering Oscar an extra year or two as an incentive.

Tom is so fit and such an endurance athlete, I would have no issues giving him a 5 year deal. His versatility and aerobic capacity will see him play for another 7-8 years easily (pending any disastrous injury run)

This.

We’ll give him a longer contract on slightly less money pa than he’d get elsewhere. 4.5 mil over 5 years would be ideal for both parties. Close to a mil a year, which will take up less salary cap for us in a few years time. 5 years for a surpreme endurance athlete who can be a rock up forward for that period.

  On 22/05/2018 at 01:02, Petraccattack said:

Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it.

Who in their right mind would put themselves through the torture of joining Gold Coast. When our club is just about to explode into premiership calculations.