Changes vs Saints

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

The Weed has to stay in. 

If he gets his confidence up and starts to feel more comfortable he will be a massive asset. 

The 2 contested marks he took in the last qtr against Essendon is just a glimpse of what he might be capable of. 

Are you comfortable with keeping T.Smith out because both can't play in the same team.

[Demons11 6,404]

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Are you comfortable with keeping T.Smith out because both can't play in the same team.

I haven’t really seen enough of T Smith this year to compare but I can see where you are coming from. 

Weed definitely has to keep improving to stay in but I think he has more upside than T Smith from what I saw from him last year. 

[DV8 2,271]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Thanks for the info. 

He did show a bit before he got injured last year but I did think he didn’t look fit enough. 

If he has improved his fitness and is moving into the midfield, I think he could be very valuable also..

In saying that I still think he is behind, Hogan, T Mac, Trac, Hannan and Fritsch 

He is behind Hogan etc. but he is very strong and hard bodied.  With a very low centre of gravity.

He would be a nightmare to shift off the ball.

I reckon he might be able to be a utility.   maybe sort of a an Archer, for us?  a little different. but bigger.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Are you comfortable with keeping T.Smith out because both can't play in the same team.

Absolutely. 

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

The Weed has to stay in. 

If he gets his confidence up and starts to feel more comfortable he will be a massive asset. 

The 2 contested marks he took in the last qtr against Essendon is just a glimpse of what he might be capable of. 

I think the Wiedeman will get just as much confidence playing in the ruck for Casey. His form has been good in the ruck but he needs more time and he's our only ruck if Gawn goes down which I hope he never does. Pedo won't get a game for Melbourne again with all the talls in front of him. 

[rjay 23,901]

2 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Can't play with Hogan, T.Mac, T.Smith and Weide in the same side.

T.Smith is more versatile than Weideman and in better form, so he replaces him.

Garlett replaces Salem but if Petracca is fit he replaces Salem.

 

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

The Weed has to stay in. 

If he gets his confidence up and starts to feel more comfortable he will be a massive asset. 

The 2 contested marks he took in the last qtr against Essendon is just a glimpse of what he might be capable of. 

 

2 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Are you comfortable with keeping T.Smith out because both can't play in the same team.

 

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

Absolutely. 

They are playing completely different roles.

Smith is playing as a mid/forward & Weid a forward/ruck.

Of course they can play in the same team & most probably will.

[WERRIDEE 5,211]

1 minute ago, rjay said:

 

 

 

They are playing completely different roles.

Smith is playing as a mid/forward & Weid a forward/ruck.

Of course they can play in the same team & most probably will.

Not with McDonald and Hogan also in the same side 4 tall forwards don't work.

 

[Drunkn167 5,093]

16 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Not with McDonald and Hogan also in the same side 4 tall forwards don't work.

 

The role Bull is playing seems to be less a KPF and more for tackling pressure and on the ground. I think we could really use that in our forward line. Its just a bonus he has a great mark and kick for goal going for him.

[deelete my account 1,194]

43 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Not with McDonald and Hogan also in the same side 4 tall forwards don't work.

 

I thought these two were now mids/wing ? ?

[Binmans PA 26,049]

Tim Smith is incredibly vanilla. I don't care if he is playing midfield. Who does he replace in there from last week (remembering Salem played off half back)?

[hardtack 10,126]

14 hours ago, timbo said:

You're right - it's definitely a dumb suggestion

It certainly is... pets are for life.

[Demons11 6,404]

14 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I think the Wiedeman will get just as much confidence playing in the ruck for Casey. His form has been good in the ruck but he needs more time and he's our only ruck if Gawn goes down which I hope he never does. Pedo won't get a game for Melbourne again with all the talls in front of him. 

I don't think his confidence will come from rucking.  He is an out and out key forward and needs to play AFL. 

Developing as a key forward in the VFL is very difficult due to ground sizes, game style and the level of skill down there. 

[DeleteUser 638]

4 hours ago, hardtack said:

It certainly is... pets are for life.

Especially when they bite you.

To be fair though, I know I like to step into dog fights all the time.

 

[hardtack 10,126]

1 hour ago, timbo said:

Especially when they bite you.

To be fair though, I know I like to step into dog fights all the time.

 

Hardly the dogs' fault... Trac made a mistake and stepped in when he probably would have been better throwing a bucket of water on them... he also should have sought medical attention immediately.  Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson.

 

[Pates 9,536]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

I don't think his confidence will come from rucking.  He is an out and out key forward and needs to play AFL. 

Developing as a key forward in the VFL is very difficult due to ground sizes, game style and the level of skill down there. 

Do we weaken ourselves by playing him and getting games into him to help build his confidence?

Could be academic if Hogan ends up being rested, won’t drop Weids and rest Hogan in the same week.  

[DeleteUser 638]

8 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Hardly the dogs' fault... Trac made a mistake and stepped in when he probably would have been better throwing a bucket of water on them... he also should have sought medical attention immediately.  Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson.

 

Let's agree to disagree, but my risk management 101 hat says remove root cause = fighting dogs.

I've had to put risky dogs down before so I get it.

But, we're Melbourne, so carry on and that.

Potemkin Football Club (not to belabour the point)

[Chook 14,471]

6 minutes ago, timbo said:

Let's agree to disagree, but my risk management 101 hat says remove root cause = fighting dogs.

I've had to put risky dogs down before so I get it.

But, we're Melbourne, so carry on and that.

Potemkin Football Club (not to belabour the point)

Not sure Goodwin has a right to tell Trac to kill his dogs though.

[DV8 2,271]

14 hours ago, A F said:

Tim Smith is incredibly vanilla. I don't care if he is playing midfield. Who does he replace in there from last week (remembering Salem played off half back)?

Vanilla = Pre-breakout game. he hasn't had a breakout game yet and only 2nd season into the system.

Are our mids vanilla?

[DV8 2,271]

32 minutes ago, Pates said:

Do we weaken ourselves by playing him and getting games into him to help build his confidence?

Could be academic if Hogan ends up being rested, won’t drop Weids and rest Hogan in the same week.  

Quandry&A:  if we do not, will he be ready this September ?

We may want him in finals this year, but he might be too inexperienced, still ?

[Deemania since 56 6,132]

18 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I haven’t really seen enough of T Smith this year to compare but I can see where you are coming from. 

Weed definitely has to keep improving to stay in but I think he has more upside than T Smith from what I saw from him last year. 

It would make reasonable sense to allow TSmith into the team for a week, to see what he brings and how it can be applied if needed. Most observers indicate that he is a rather willing footballer, and is courageous. Two fine qualities.

[The Chazz 4,077]

4 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It would make reasonable sense to allow TSmith into the team for a week, to see what he brings and how it can be applied if needed. Most observers indicate that he is a rather willing footballer, and is courageous. Two fine qualities.

If Hogan doesn't get up, I'd bring Smith straight in.

If Hogan does get up, and the only change is Salem, then I'd imagine Wagner will come in.

Tough on Smith?  Not at all.  He can keep banging the door down and when he does get his opportunity, grab it with both hands.

I don't think "trialling" Smith as a midfielder in the seniors is necessary at this point.  I'd rather see him start forward for a few games, get confidence and continuity in his game, then allow him to start roaming.  Far less risk.

[leave it to deever 15,331]

On 4/29/2018 at 6:12 PM, The Chief said:

Gee sorry, didn’t realise I was in the presence of greatness. 

Careful chief................there will be an end of year test.

[leave it to deever 15,331]

58 minutes ago, timbo said:

Let's agree to disagree, but my risk management 101 hat says remove root cause = fighting dogs.

I've had to put risky dogs down before so I get it.

But, we're Melbourne, so carry on and that.

Potemkin Football Club (not to belabour the point)

 Can we agree it was a dog act.

 I'll see myself out.

[DV8 2,271]

16 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

If Hogan doesn't get up, I'd bring Smith straight in.

If Hogan does get up, and the only change is Salem, then I'd imagine Wagner will come in.

Tough on Smith?  Not at all.  He can keep banging the door down and when he does get his opportunity, grab it with both hands.

I don't think "trialling" Smith as a midfielder in the seniors is necessary at this point.  I'd rather see him start forward for a few games, get confidence and continuity in his game, then allow him to start roaming.  Far less risk.

If Hogan is sore, from many issues, i'd rest him for one week,  to get back to normal.

It gives us a chance now TMc is back in,,, to check our other players levels and attribytes.

[DV8 2,271]

4 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

 Can we agree it was a dog act.

 I'll see myself out.

Anyone ever taken, a hare off the dog ? 

I reckon Mono needed one last night.