Training Week Commencing 26/3

[Neitz the Great 555]

Anyone go today??

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@Demon77

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9 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

Anyone go today??

Will post shortly. 

Edited March 28, 2018 by Demon77

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Hi all.

Training started around 10am and lasted about 60 minutes. It was a light session and not one of the most intense we have seen. The 6 day break and upcoming warm conditions could be the reason. 

Notable absentees from Sunday were Trac, Hunt and Vince. McKenna ran laps most session. 

There were 33-34 players in the main warm-up excluding Weid, King and Filipovic. They were in a drill together with Stafford, it lasted about 15 minutes and eventually joined the main group.

In the first half an hour or so there were a lot of short drills set out concentrating on stoppages and rapid ball movement. Players were constantly changing groups. 

It was blustery out there at times and the wind favoured the end the forwards were stationed at.

The centre bounce drill would involve the rucks tapping the ball down to the mids and then a pass on to the forwards. A lot of the forwards ran under the ball, not sure if they misjudged the flight or there was too much on the kick. It happened a lot actually in the short time. Hogan was the only one able to read the flight and take a few marks. Hogan moved really well, had a bandage of some sort on but was not hindered at all. 

Salem was another of the injury concerns that moved freely.

There was no match sim drill with the short session. At the end players were given a 15 minute period of “ playtime” where they would try and kick snaps and torps through the goals. 

When most were leaving I noticed Maynard hunched over talking to one of the coaches. Also Hannan and Goodwin had a 5 minute one on one in the centre of the ground. 

Right in front of me Max kicked a 60 metre torp through the goals and Pedders yelled out “ Why couldn’t you do that on Sunday?”

Not much else to report unfortunately as the session was over quickly.

Hope this helps.

Edited March 28, 2018 by Demon77

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Awesome stuff @Demon77.

The big positive is Hogan moving freely and training without problems, meaning he'll be right for Saturday night and ready to kick a bag of goals.

[jumbo returns 6,737]

16 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Hi all.

Training started around 10am and lasted about 60 minutes. It was a light session and not one of the most intense we have seen. The 6 day break and upcoming warm conditions could be the reason. 

Notable absentees from Sunday were Trac, Hunt and Vince. McKenna ran laps most session. 

There were 33-34 players in the main warm-up excluding Weid, King and Filipovic. They were in a drill together with Stafford, it lasted about 15 minutes and eventually joined the main group.

In the first half an hour or so there were a lot of short drills set out concentrating on stoppages and rapid ball movement. Players were constantly changing groups. 

It was blustery out there at times and the wind favoured the end the forwards were stationed at.

The centre bounce drill would involve the rucks tapping the ball down to the mids and then a pass on to the forwards. A lot of the forwards ran under the ball, not sure if they misjudged the flight or there was too much on the kick. It happened a lot actually in the short time. Hogan was the only one able to read the flight and take a few marks. Hogan moved really well, had a bandage of some sort on but was not hindered at all. 

Salem was another of the injury concerns that moved freely.

There was no match sim drill with the short session. At the end players were given a 15 minute period of “ playtime” where they would try and kick snaps and torps through the goals. 

When most were leaving I noticed Maynard hunched over talking to one of the coaches. Also Hannan and Goodwin had a 5 minute one on one in the centre of the ground. 

Right in front of me Max kicked a 60 metre torp through the goals and Pedders yelled out “ Why couldn’t you do that on Sunday?”

Not much else to report unfortunately as the session was over quickly.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for the report...how did Gus move, please?

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18 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Hi all.

Training started around 10am and lasted about 60 minutes. It was a light session and not one of the most intense we have seen. The 6 day break and upcoming warm conditions could be the reason. 

Notable absentees from Sunday were Trac, Hunt and Vince. McKenna ran laps most session. 

There were 33-34 players in the main warm-up excluding Weid, King and Filipovic. They were in a drill together with Stafford, it lasted about 15 minutes and eventually joined the main group.

In the first half an hour or so there were a lot of short drills set out concentrating on stoppages and rapid ball movement. Players were constantly changing groups. 

It was blustery out there at times and the wind favoured the end the forwards were stationed at.

The centre bounce drill would involve the rucks tapping the ball down to the mids and then a pass on to the forwards. A lot of the forwards ran under the ball, not sure if they misjudged the flight or there was too much on the kick. It happened a lot actually in the short time. Hogan was the only one able to read the flight and take a few marks. Hogan moved really well, had a bandage of some sort on but was not hindered at all. 

Salem was another of the injury concerns that moved freely.

There was no match sim drill with the short session. At the end players were given a 15 minute period of “ playtime” where they would try and kick snaps and torps through the goals. 

When most were leaving I noticed Maynard hunched over talking to one of the coaches. Also Hannan and Goodwin had a 5 minute one on one in the centre of the ground. 

Right in front of me Max kicked a 60 metre torp through the goals and Pedders yelled out “ Why couldn’t you do that on Sunday?”

Not much else to report unfortunately as the session was over quickly.

Hope this helps.

Well, Pedders could've had the shot himself. Just sayin' !

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17 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Thank you for the report...how did Gus move, please?

Moved well, he was mostly with midfield group, it was a tad difficult following all of them with the constant bib changing.

Edited March 28, 2018 by Demon77

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Well, Pedders could've had the shot himself. Just sayin' !

Fair point!

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28 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Awesome stuff @Demon77.

The big positive is Hogan moving freely and training without problems, meaning he'll be right for Saturday night and ready to kick a bag of goals.

Be nice if he can take some grans during a game. Would help him kick a bag and give us a win.

[Lucifers Hero 39,490]

@Demon77

Thanks for great report.

I'm curious about Weideman working out with the rucks.  Reports were he has done a bit of that in Casey games. 

I would have thought we would let him settle into his natural position as a forward and once he has that nailed then develop his ruck skills.  Trying to do both at AFL level is fraught and runs the risk that he won't reach his potential in either role.   And I'm not sure he has the height or the build (at least not yet) to ruck.

Wondering if you have seen him do 'enough' forward work in the preseason - we could certainly do with a forward who is ready to step in if needed. 

Cheers

Edited March 28, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

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13 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Be nice if he can take some grans during a game. Would help him kick a bag and give us a win.

The old ladys would like that

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46 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

 

Right in front of me Max kicked a 60 metre torp through the goals and Pedders yelled out “ Why couldn’t you do that on Sunday?”

 

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6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

@Demon77

Thanks for great report.

I'm curious about Weideman working out with the rucks.  Reports were he has done a bit of that in Casey games. 

I would have thought we would let him settle into his natural position as a forward and once he has that nailed then develop his ruck skills.  Trying to do both at AFL level is fraught and runs the risk that he won't reach his potential in either role. 

Wondering if you have seen him do 'enough' forward work in the preseason - we could certainly do with a forward who is ready to step in if needed. 

Cheers

I don’t want to hijack a training thread considering there’s a dedicated Weideman thread already however, I don’t agree with your supposition regards him playing his ‘natural’ position as a forward and potentially negatively affect his development.

He’s a growing lad and will at times be called into a ruck contest, probably more than Hogan and Tmac going forward. Also beneficial to give him some one-on-one work under a high ball even if it is only from a throw up.

 

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1 minute ago, McQueen said:

I don’t want to hijack a training thread considering there’s a dedicated Weideman thread already however, I don’t agree with your supposition regards him playing his ‘natural’ position as a forward and potentially negatively affect his development.

He’s a growing lad and will at times be called into a ruck contest, probably more than Hogan and Tmac going forward. Also beneficial to give him some one-on-one work under a high ball even if it is only from a throw up.

I agree it will benefit him, but I would like to see him lock down the forward role first and get some runs on the board there - then develop his ruck skills.  Just  my preference on sequence of things. 

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1 hour ago, Neitz the Great said:

Anyone go today??

I wish you did and were playing on saturday Neita! 

Edited March 28, 2018 by Doodle Dee

[Neitz the Great 555]

2 minutes ago, Doodle Dee said:

I wish you did and were playing on saturday Neita 

Agreed D.D. A champion of our game and club  

[Docs Demons 1,778]

22 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

The old ladys would like that

Certainly would. No doubt meant grabs,

[DV8 2,271]

35 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I don’t want to hijack a training thread considering there’s a dedicated Weideman thread already however, I don’t agree with your supposition regards him playing his ‘natural’ position as a forward and potentially negatively affect his development.

He’s a growing lad and will at times be called into a ruck contest, probably more than Hogan and Tmac going forward. Also beneficial to give him some one-on-one work under a high ball even if it is only from a throw up.

 

Getting him into the play, even if playing as follower for large parts, might be good for him to find his balance in the game. and hopefully confidence.

I want to see him taking marks all over the ground, more-so than being stuck in front of goals.

Get him where the ball is, and in the action.

The main thing is to get him firing up.

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1 hour ago, Docs Demons said:

Be nice if he can take some grans during a game. Would help him kick a bag and give us a win.

 

29 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Certainly would. No doubt meant grabs,

Not necessarily. Other options include brans, trans, grass, grads, grams, grays, arabs and crabs. A couple might have WADA implications, though.

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

@Demon77

Thanks for great report.

I'm curious about Weideman working out with the rucks.  Reports were he has done a bit of that in Casey games. 

I would have thought we would let him settle into his natural position as a forward and once he has that nailed then develop his ruck skills.  Trying to do both at AFL level is fraught and runs the risk that he won't reach his potential in either role.   And I'm not sure he has the height or the build (at least not yet) to ruck.

Wondering if you have seen him do 'enough' forward work in the preseason - we could certainly do with a forward who is ready to step in if needed. 

Cheers

 

53 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I don’t want to hijack a training thread considering there’s a dedicated Weideman thread already however, I don’t agree with your supposition regards him playing his ‘natural’ position as a forward and potentially negatively affect his development.

He’s a growing lad and will at times be called into a ruck contest, probably more than Hogan and Tmac going forward. Also beneficial to give him some one-on-one work under a high ball even if it is only from a throw up.

 

 

48 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I agree it will benefit him, but I would like to see him lock down the forward role first and get some runs on the board there - then develop his ruck skills.  Just  my preference on sequence of things. 

My thought is that we may only go with the 2 tall forwards as part of the game plan this year and one will have to ruck part time...

That means that Weid will have to ruck to get a game because Hogan won't be.

If he comes on this year then it will be interesting to see where Tommy plays.

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1 hour ago, Demon77 said:

Also Hannan and Goodwin had a 5 minute one on one in the centre of the ground. 

It's easy to read too much into things, but considering Goodwin may want to get Tyson, Brayshaw and perhaps the defensive pressure of Bugg into the side one suspects that Hannan along with Maynard would be one of the first in line to lose his spot.  It's possible Goodwin was breaking the news to him.

Edited March 28, 2018 by ProDee

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2 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Fair point!

Yeah,  it was an easy shot for Pedders, only 60 out on the boundary and the wrong side for a right footer. 

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2 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Also Hannan and Goodwin had a 5 minute one on one in the centre of the ground. 

I'm guessing Hannan's omitted??

 

Edit - just saw Pro Dee post the exact same thing.

Edited March 28, 2018 by Bring-Back-Powell

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33 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I'm guessing Hannan's omitted??

 

Edit - just saw Pro Dee post the exact same thing.

Goodwin does this all the time at training, doesn't necessarily mean he is omitted, might have a different role in mind

The team lost by a kick, why would Goodwin be considering changes?

It was the 1st half defending which disappointed him

Listen to his presser, he is already flagging there may be no change

Edited March 28, 2018 by Satyriconhome