2 hours ago, praha said:

how much more serious can you get on the sexual assault scale than...sexual assault?

Well, to quote the noted jurisprudence expert Matt Damon, a pat on the behind is not as bad as rape.

Let's keep politics and your squabbles on the general boards out of this.

Seems the victims sort clarification from Victoria Police if there was anything that could be done in Australia and was advised no. Hence why no statements etc were taken. 

 

I dont think it happens here much her much but it seems in the US the star sports player never go down criminally but always go down when sued by the victim. 

 

Maybe it’s the different onus of proof. Unless the victim was to sue the player then it doesn’t appear this will see the light of day (the allegations). 

 

Does that happen much in Australia, as I can’t recall any major cases?? 

Edited December 21, 20177 yr by Wolfgang219

Just checked replies. Congrats on close to the most garbled post I've ever read on this site Wolfgang. (And tx for trying to summarise my observations). Now [censored] off.

It's like whack-a-mole with you lot sometimes. Delete one post as another three appear.

i pity the administrators tonight

42 minutes ago, maximum bob said:

Just checked replies. Congrats on close to the most garbled post I've ever read on this site Wolfgang. (And tx for trying to summarise my observations). Now [censored] off.

No problem, maybe you should get over yourself. 

 

Nothing will happen as it was in Indonesia  but the lack of a guilty verdict in court (which you seem to imply is required) doesn’t mean an incident didn’t happen. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bali

it can be a very ugly place....

2 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Couple of points. (some already noted).

There was an incident in Indonesia according to the claimant and now acknowledged by the MFC. So far unsubstantiated in law and fact. This is the salient point. The media might be all over it but it doesn't matter a whit.

It occurred outside any jurisdictional aegis of any Australian authority. Tell the Victorian police all you want, true or not. It doesn't matter. The claimant can pursue absolutely nothing unless a complaint is lodged with the Indonesian police. Evidence will be required, hard evidence and believe me the Indonesians are used to dealing with this particularly in Bali.

It's a serious allegation and not what we need on our (for me brief )holiday break.

I will welcome due process but hanging anyone out to dry at this stage is  way off the mark.

 

 

Did you work for Harvey Weinstein’s PR or Legal team?? 

4 hours ago, praha said:

Argh....I immediately think "this club is cursed" but then I'm reminded someone may have been assaulted sexually and the football is secondary.

I just can't fathom how anyone could assault a woman against her will. It's so foreign to me, the idea that would force yourself on someone. I'll admit I've made [censored] advances on women in the past and made them visibly uncomfortable, I'm sure we all have, but once I've realised I've always backed off.

Problem for this woman is that it's a legal matter for Indonesian police. There's little Vic police could do except refer it to the department in that jurisdiction.

Have you been raped before? I'm sure that if you'v been treated that way by a person in power, you'll do everything you can to ruin them. The girl has to know that this havng happened in bali means the player will almost certainly never face the law.

At the risk of sounding like a lawyer, this is at the moment an allegation, not a fact.

People should really wait until the full facts are made public. In th e meantime 2017 - like he last ten years - just keeps on producing wonders for the club.

35 minutes ago, Nasher said:

It's like whack-a-mole with you lot sometimes. Delete one post as another three appear.

Whack-a-mole, on this thread???

I posted this a while back and respect that is was deleted so disappointed it’s surfaced 

Sky news headline uses the word rape. Sounds bad...

Because Sky News is a bastion of journalistic integrity, right?

The most common word in the English language these days, particularly in the news, is the word '"alleged".

Another media bonanza.

 

 

Pretty hard to keep a lid on these things. You could try but the point is probably moot.

Edited December 21, 20177 yr by Chook in Perth

Nothing will be revealed on this thread, you all know that for a fact. Forget about this issue until something of substance is revealed by the club or by whichever appropriate authority may be involved in an investigation.

What a rubbish last couple of months from the MFC. One deplorable PR nightmare after another.

Edited December 21, 20177 yr by SaberFang

I am sorry but this situation is totally pathetic for the MFC and the girl if true. Sounds like too much pizz one night in bali.

4 hours ago, Emerald said:

Might end up a prison camp.

Can the AFLPA issue an injunction for the incarcerated to avoid breaking rocks.

4 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Couple of points. (some already noted).

There was an incident in Indonesia according to the claimant and now acknowledged by the MFC. So far unsubstantiated in law and fact. This is the salient point. The media might be all over it but it doesn't matter a whit.

It occurred outside any jurisdictional aegis of any Australian authority. Tell the Victorian police all you want, true or not. It doesn't matter. The claimant can pursue absolutely nothing unless a complaint is lodged with the Indonesian police. Evidence will be required, hard evidence and believe me the Indonesians are used to dealing with this particularly in Bali.

It's a serious allegation and not what we need on our (for me brief )holiday break.

I will welcome due process but hanging anyone out to dry at this stage is  way off the mark.

 

 

The Indonesian police will not be taking any further action.....

6 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

I like your style.

I dont

15 minutes ago, Jack Jack Tappy said:

I dont

I do

If we managed to get into the finals this crap would perhaps never have happened. Damned the luck.

Edited December 21, 20177 yr by america de cali