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19 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:
Couldn’t let the weekend go past without a mock draft (courtesy of Callum Twomey) ... and an article about which VFL players are putting their hand up for this year’s drafts.
 

Surely Ben would be ahead of Max due to the knee reco.

Can't get past the pay wall for the VFL players, is there any chance of getting past it?

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Western Australia beat the Allies by 7 points 

Jordan Clark of WA was best on ground followed closely by Allies' f/s prospect Bailey Scott.

U18: Future Swan unable to lift Allies over the line

Allies 1.1.7 4.1.25 7.5.47 10.11.71

Western Australia 3.3.21 8.4.52 10.4.64 12.6.78

Goals

Allies Turner 2, Blakey, Reinhard, McFayden, Quint, Turner, Scott, O'Neill, Thomas

Western Australia Medhat 3, Georgiades 2, Moore 2, O'Reilly 2, Oldfield 2, Stack 

Best

Allies Scott, Blakey, Turner, Jones, Briggs, O'Neill 

Western Australia Clark, English, Oldfield, Stack, Foley, Spooner, Medhat

South Australia v Vic Metro which is effectively the grand final has just started.

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5 hours ago, SFebey said:

How is Bailey Scott playing? Late season bolter?

Bailey's been around the mark as a top 20 prospect coming into the Champs, and has held/improved his standing with some good, consistent footy. Can win his own ball, runs hard and has popped up for the odd goal resting forward. Probably in the 15-20 range at this stage. 

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U18: Rankine blitz lifts Croweaters to national title

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-04/u18-rankine-blitz-lifts-croweaters-to-national-title

Vic Metro 0.1.1  2.3.15 8.5.53 9.7.61

South Australia 4.3.27  9.4.58 12.7.79 17.14.116

Goals

Vic Metro King 4, Taylor 2, Mahony, Rendell, O'Halloran

South Australia Rankine 5, Jarvis 2, Munn, Rozee, Lukosius, Chandler, Luchowiak, Siviour, Chapman, Valente, Lewis,

Best

Vic Metro Ayton-Delaney, King, Smith, Rowell, O'Halloran 

South Australia Rankine, Kennerley, Hately, Rozee, Lewis, Frederick, Chapman

And the Fox Sports power Rankings 

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it's funny, but if you look at our history of 'down years' over the last twenty years, we always seem to be at the bottom when the draft class is nowhere near as strong as our middling / good years

they're raving about this year's draft class, and of course we've traded out of it

1997: arguably got this one right with pick 1 and pick 2 - trapper and jeff white (traded)
1999: banned from first round, our pick 4 gifted to freo cos they were wayne jackson's baby, same as gc17 and gw$ are gil's
2001: stuffed it up, picking molan
2003: chook mclean and 'one big pre-season away from superstardom' sylvia
2007: cale morton and jack grimes, sigh
2008: jack watts, double sigh
2009: $cully [later converted into hogan] and trengove
2010: pick 5 became pick 12 as we were shunted down the draft order via the introduction of gc17, stuffed it up by picking cook anyway
2011: same as above, except this time it was gw$, and we traded it for mitch clark
2012: pick 3 traded to ensure gw$ didn't nominate viney, wasted pick 4 on the toump
2013: 2 and 20 converted into tyson and 9
2014: 2 and 3 used on trac and gus
2015: oliver and weed
2016: used on above trade
2017 and 2018: used as leverage for lever

at the time i thought it was a good deal, but clearly the pick 2 and 20 for tyson and pick 9 was a complete mistake given just how good kelly has become

 

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2013: 2 and 20 converted into tyson and 9 - wasn't 9 used for Salem?

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58 minutes ago, #11-TonyAnderson said:

2013: 2 and 20 converted into tyson and 9 - wasn't 9 used for Salem?

this trade was a sin. traded one of the quickest and fittest and best skilled blokes in afl for 2 unfit plodders

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1 hour ago, Elegt said:

this trade was a sin. traded one of the quickest and fittest and best skilled blokes in afl for 2 unfit plodders

No doubt we lost in this trade,  but would Kelly turn out as good if he was drafted to us?

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30 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

No doubt we lost in this trade,  but would Kelly turn out as good if he was drafted to us?

that's true

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35 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

No doubt we lost in this trade,  but would Kelly turn out as good if he was drafted to us?

seeing as we were all set to pick billings, while kelly would now be at the aints...i'll say no

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1 minute ago, Elegt said:

billings > Salem + Tyson 

carved us up on Sunday 

Be the first time. Billings has been a bust so far for the Aints.

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The All Australian Under 18 side:-

Defenders: Jez McLennan (South Australia), Jacob Koschitzke (Allies), Isaac Quaynor (Vic Metro), Buku Khamis (Vic Metro), Kyle Reid (Vic Country), Jordan Clark (Western Australia)

Midfielders: Luke English (Western Australia), Kieren Briggs (Allies), Bailey Smith (Vic Metro), Luke Valente (South Australia), Sam Walsh (Vic Country), Chayce Jones (Allies)

Forwards: Bailey Scott (Allies), Jack Lukosius (South Australia), Jackson Hately (South Australia), Izak Rankine (South Australia), Ben King (Vic Metro), Rhylee West (Vic Metro)

Interchange: Sydney Stack (Western Australia), Connor McFadyen (Allies), Mitch O’Neill (Allies), Will Gould (South Australia), Jeremy Sharp (Western Australia)

Coach: Tony Bamford (South Australia)

Assistant coach: Lance Spaulding (Tasmania)

Captain: Sam Walsh

Vice-captain: Luke Valente

The All-Australia side was picked by Kevin Sheehan (AFL Talent Ambassador), Luke Power (AFL Academy Head Coach), Marcus Ashcroft (AFL Talent Competition and Operations), Dom Milesi (Collingwood recruiting manager), Troy Selwood (Geelong recruiting manager), Matt Clarke (Richmond recruiting manager) and Chris Liberatore (St Kilda recruiting manager).

Unless we do some trading, it’s unlikely any of the above will end up at Melbourne.

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Must admit really concerned about these Next generation academies, looks like North, Collingwood and the doggies could be real winners this year with Father sons and NGA players.  The kid North will get from Tasmania will be a gun and if no one bids for him prior to there first round pick they will get him for a high 20's pick.  Collingwood have pick 15 and from memory next pick is in the 50s, they are set to get 2 players that should be top 20 picks for basically pick 15 and change. 

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Probably have 6 off. ((Bugg, Pedersen, vdnberg, Johnstone, JKH, mckenna))  Vince to get one more year. Filipivic off rookie list  

trade out Dean Kent to Freo (pick 52)

get Gaff (eagles) Free agent

get Tom Campbell (dogs) trade pick 52 backup ruck

We will likely have picks 31, 44,49 + Toby Bedford as Next Generation. 

Pick 31- Tom Lewis or Mitch Riordan

pick 44 - Ely Smith or Lachlan McDonnell (Smokey)

pick 49 - perhaps VFL Marty Hore from Collingwood or Charlie Thompson (Tigers)

rookie list - add Jay Lockhart (Casey)

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On ‎7‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 3:55 PM, Demon Disciple said:

No doubt we lost in this trade,  but would Kelly turn out as good if he was drafted to us?

Of course he would. I blame our recruiters ahead of development.

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2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Probably have 6 off. ((Bugg, Pedersen, vdnberg, Johnstone, JKH, mckenna))  Vince to get one more year. Filipivic off rookie list  

trade out Dean Kent to Freo (pick 52)

get Gaff (eagles) Free agent

get Tom Campbell (dogs) trade pick 52 backup ruck

We will likely have picks 31, 44,49 + Toby Bedford as Next Generation. 

Pick 31- Tom Lewis or Mitch Riordan

pick 44 - Ely Smith or Lachlan McDonnell (Smokey)

pick 49 - perhaps VFL Marty Hore from Collingwood or Charlie Thompson (Tigers)

rookie list - add Jay Lockhart (Casey)

Kent is worth more to us than pick 52 keep him.

Bugg, Pedersen, JKH delist, Vince retire and Tyson trade.

Campbell is wasted if Gawn doesn't get injured. Weideman can take Gawn's spot if we are desperate. I think Filipovic would be just as promising as pick 52.

Can you give us some information on your draft picks don't know much about the under 18's.

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On ‎7‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 10:02 AM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

 

2009: $cully [later converted into hogan] and trengove

Scully had nothing to do with Hogan. Scully was swapped for Toumpas and Dawes.

 

 

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Any thoughts on Sam Walsh

he is a natural type outside mid like Darcy Parish but better !! 

demons maybe should try to package some players and get a early pick

Suns pick 2 or 3 likely at seasons end (they make have both if as predicted Lynch goes)

Pick 2 and Jack Scrimshaw for Tyson, Frost & ANB ??

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Werribee key defender Sam Collins was impressive earlier this year when they played Casey. Started today against the Bombers. He might be worth a look.

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Interesting article in The Rage today by Wayne Carey about the numerous father/son prospects in this year's draft. More than most other years apparently.  If clubs bid for these it will push other draftees further back in the selection order. This might prove handy for us, given we currently have no 1st rounder

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The AFL has released the full list of players invited to the 2018 AFL Draft Combine

AFL Draft Combine 2018: Full list of invites, Pick 1, top 10 prospects, Jack Lukosius, Sam Walsh

And despite some recent successes with mature age recruits such as Bailey Fritsch and Tim Kelly, only two mature-age prospects who have been invited to the trials.

Mature-age pair invited to Draft Combine

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