As much as I like the idea of a fit and firing Crameri, the fact that the bulldogs, who arent overly endowed with goal kickers and just traded their leading goal kicker, didnt keep him is flashing red warning light....

58 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

should we keep Hibberd and Melksham away from the youngsters too? 

 

Not sure. Have they done something I should know about.

I'm sure about Crameri though.

19 minutes ago, JJJ said:

Not sure. Have they done something I should know about.

I'm sure about Crameri though.

What did he do as different Hibberd and Melksham?

For me have him as a mature age rookie costs us nothing and gives us depth. Not so sure about using a proper draft pick and senior position for him. 

5 minutes ago, Pates said:

What did he do as different Hibberd and Melksham?

For me have him as a mature age rookie costs us nothing and gives us depth. Not so sure about using a proper draft pick and senior position for him. 

I think he’s referring to something else, nothing to do with his time at Essendon and the PEDs saga. 

10 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I have complete faith in the FD, but if this happened I would begin to waver

His last 2 years either side of the ban, have been abysmal, the game has gone past him, he wouldn't know forward pressure if it came and bit him on the arse

It's a yes from me then...

7 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

When fit, Crameri's a better player than Harmes and Bugg, who were regulars.  He'd also have Kent and vandenBerg covered.

Melksham and ANB's form was pretty solid.  

He'd probably compete with Hannan for a spot.  I like Hannan, and am hopeful with a full pre-season he can be involved in games for longer.  Hannan's also a heck of a lot quicker when it hits the deck.

I see the forward line as something like:

Petracca, McDonald, Melksham

Garlett, Hogan, Hannan

But you never have everyone available and form dips, so I'd be very happy to rookie Crameri.

 

Crameri is a better player, based on what his last 2 yesrs, obviously the Bulldogs think so and all the clubs in a rush to trade him

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think he’s referring to something else, nothing to do with his time at Essendon and the PEDs saga. 

And that is?

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

And that is?

From Adam Cooney's mad monday article perhaps?

"Hibberds and Melkshams: The animals of the group, rock up feeling the effects of the night before, nude by 12, abusing everyone by 2pm and home by 6pm. Great value."

Edited October 26, 20177 yr by Deeprived Childhood

with crameri and hartung and any other delisted player for that matter, it is pick 47 that we would be giving up for them. Pick 47 would have landed any delisted player that's been mentioned and we have already thought better of it. Before you say we're sitting back to make a decision at a later date to consider the options, well this draft period if anything we went and got things done that the club wanted. all these fringe players coming up as delisted options, we have already said not  to in effect giving up pick 47 for them. Pick 47 will be coming with us on draft night.  

4 hours ago, hillie said:

with crameri and hartung and any other delisted player for that matter, it is pick 47 that we would be giving up for them. Pick 47 would have landed any delisted player that's been mentioned and we have already thought better of it. Before you say we're sitting back to make a decision at a later date to consider the options, well this draft period if anything we went and got things done that the club wanted. all these fringe players coming up as delisted options, we have already said not  to in effect giving up pick 47 for them. Pick 47 will be coming with us on draft night.  

Can’t we pick up DFAs for nothing now, in the appropriate time window?  Won’t even cost us 47.  It is more a case if we have a spot we are prepared to use on the main list.  Otherwise we will have to wait for the rookie draft.  I think the FD will pass for the main list, and if history serves, will pull a Smokey from a state league before a DFA for either list.

Melbourne has no rookie positions available since they will be using it for Maynard elevating him from rookie B list to the rookie A list 

Do we have 1 Rookie spot available?

Out - White (delisted) & Smith (promoted)

In - Maynard

Is that how the Cat A and B works these days?

7 hours ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

From Adam Cooney's mad monday article perhaps?

"Hibberds and Melkshams: The animals of the group, rock up feeling the effects of the night before, nude by 12, abusing everyone by 2pm and home by 6pm. Great value."

But I don't see any mention of Crameri there (I can't access the article)... only Hibberd and Melksham; am I missing something?

Edited October 26, 20177 yr by hardtack

Smith is Cat B Rookie

Crameri is chasing us not the other way around. I hope we take him but it is very unlikely. Goodwin will have the final say on this.

9 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Crameri is chasing us not the other way around. I hope we take him but it is very unlikely. Goodwin will have the final say on this.

I like that he wants to play for us but it might be rookie only (pending availability of a rookie spot) If we're intending to use pick 47 on a young draftee then being picked up as a rookie is Crameri's best chance. 

The good news is that Crameri would relish one last opportunity so he wouldn't see being picked up as a rookie as a slight.  I'd entertain the thought because he'd cover a KPF depth issue which might eventuate.

We happily have cover for the in betweeners which I've always found to be a little odd.  You know, blokes who don't often have a particular position yet end up playing magoos footy.

 

23 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Crameri is a better player, based on what his last 2 yesrs, obviously the Bulldogs think so and all the clubs in a rush to trade him

Based on the fact he's had 5 seasons at AFL level where he's kicked over 30 goals in a season - numbers that Harmes and Bugg could only dream of. Put him in a training singlet and you'll be drooling over him in no time. 

he used to be half decent, but has gone downhill at a very rapid rate.

19 hours ago, durango said:

Smith is Cat B Rookie

Was a cat b rookie, he is already signed for 2 years and will be promotedto main list at the draft, was announced ages ago.

7 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

he used to be half decent, but has gone downhill at a very rapid rate.

This, game has passed him by & I'd rather put time into tim smith, cramerie will be full time vfl in 2018 for sure. 

Rookie list yes. Primary list no.

6 minutes ago, Adzman said:

Rookie list yes. Primary list no.

He won't make either at any club let alone us, hence his public statement to be picked up by a club on the up where he has a few ties to the fd. Will play for Werribee or Williamstown at best.

Comments about him finally having his body right were also made by Dawes when we delisted him & he still hasn't managed to put on any boots since.

Edited October 27, 20177 yr by thevil1

i've always liked Crameri but I'm unaware of his physical durability these days. Could be worth a one year contract if the club considers the window to be open, which it must, given we have traded for instant gratification  this year.

40 minutes ago, Biffen said:

i've always liked Crameri but I'm unaware of his physical durability these days. Could be worth a one year contract if the club considers the window to be open, which it must, given we have traded for instant gratification  this year.

Im with you re Crameri. Insurance if Hogan has more injury concerns. But how the hell is trading for a AA 21 yr old Key back trading for instant gratification!? Geelong with Ablett is instant grat... but Lever has 10 years in front of him. So.... Im hoping to be  gratified over and over again Biffen. Instant... and long term :-) 

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

Im hoping to be  gratified over and over again Biffen. Instant... and long term :-) 

Paging @Bitter but optimistic