Jump to content

Jack Lukosius

Whispering_Jack
Whispering_Jack
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

Posted

Jack Lukosius turned 17 in August and is not eligible for this year's draft ... but wait until this time next year.

The 194cm South Australian key forward prospect starred in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and last week kicked four goals on debut in a SANFL final for Woodville-West Torrens.

I thought I'd go early with a thread on him because every AFL club is going to want this kid on their list

  • Quote
    •  

    I watch him play last week and he would have to be in the top 5, reminds me a lot of James Hird (yes dirty comparison i know) and can seriously play.

  • Quote

    Not sure why Demonland would be overly excited about a potential top 5 pick next year. If we were a chance, well sure, lets read all about it.

    Only way we could look at picks that high is if we traded someone like Hogan at the end of next season.

    *Shrug.

  • Quote
    •  

    Still room to admire a player who isn't playing for a club we don't like yet.

    Yep, Jack's a gun. A little bit of Nick Riewoldt about his style of play.

    The early tip for pick one, with the King twins right on his hammer.

  • Quote

    I shudder when I see an under age player staring in the SANFL.

    Toumpas was a gun for Woodville the year before his draft year...late debut coming into finals.

    Should also add Aish and a number of other kids who have struggled after good seasons in the SANFL.

    Unfortunately as we've found out, SANFL form doesn't necessarily translate.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1

    1 hour ago, rjay said:

    I shudder when I see an under age player staring in the SANFL.

    Toumpas was a gun for Woodville the year before his draft year...late debut coming into finals.

    Should also add Aish and a number of other kids who have struggled after good seasons in the SANFL.

    Unfortunately as we've found out, SANFL form doesn't necessarily translate.

    It could also be type of player. The stars of TAC and SANFL that don't win their own ball struggle at AFL level.

  • Quote
    •  
    24 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    You never know. We might trade for some club's 2018 #1 pick and gain a bonanza if that club finishes down the ladder.

    North, Coll, West Coast or Freo please.

    Don't think Brisvegas would be stupid enough to do that.

    St Kilda are grinning ear to ear having the Hawks 1st pick this year 

  • Quote
    • Haha 1
    • 11 months later...

    Adelaide are really keen to get this kid. How keen? Test them Carlton...

    If I were Carlton i would forget the priority pick and look to trade their pick one for the Crouch boys.

    Added to Cripps it would give them a quick bump.

  • Quote

    The Crows will surely try and package picks and McGovern for Pick 1.  It's an interesting position for Carlton.  With Curnow and McKay  they don't really have a need for another young key forward.  So their decision is to either bypass the best player and go for need (midfielder Walsh) at 1.  Take Lukosius as best player available.  Or to get multiple picks (8, 15, 19 an example) and have a quantity not quality approach at the draft.  They probably have to take Walsh, which then leaves Gold Coast at pick 2 and Pick 3 who the Crows on draft night could try and sway.  The Suns desperately need a key forward but the go-home factor concern will be enormous.  It's quite interesting.  Wouldn't shock me if the Suns take the King brothers at 2 and 3 with Lukosius bizarrely sliding based on non-ability reasonings.  But you'd hope they would back their culture in and take him. 

    Edited by goodoil
    typo

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    36 minutes ago, goodoil said:

    The Crows will surely try and package picks and McGovern for Pick 1.  It's an interesting position for Carlton.  With Curnow and McKay  they don't really have a need for another young key forward.  So their decision is to either bypass the best player and go for need (midfielder Walsh) at 1.  Take Lukosius as best player available.  Or to get multiple picks (8, 15, 19 an example) and have a quantity not quality approach at the draft.  They probably have to take Walsh, which then leaves Gold Coast at pick 2 and Pick 3 who the Crows on draft night could try and sway.  The Suns desperately need a key forward but the go-home factor concern will be enormous.  It's quite interesting.  Wouldn't shock me if the Suns take the King brothers at 2 and 3 with Lukosius bizarrely sliding based on non-ability reasonings.  But you'd hope they would back their culture in and take him. 

    Carlton are in a good position because more than likely McGovern alone will end up better than a tall they would select with their pick 1. So by trading pick 1 for a slightly worse off pick, and perhaps taking a midfielder with it, will just be a bonus, and history says it will more than likely result in a better outcome than a tall anyway. If I were Carlton I would jump at trading away pick 1. They still have Weitering developing down back, and they have both Curnow and McKay up forward. They are going to need to give Cripps some help in the coming years or he might pull the pin himself. Get in McGovern, get a young mid, have a tilt at another mid next year during FA, and get more development into McKay and Curnow - Carlton will be set up.

  • Quote
    45 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    Carlton are in a good position because more than likely McGovern alone will end up better than a tall they would select with their pick 1. So by trading pick 1 for a slightly worse off pick, and perhaps taking a midfielder with it, will just be a bonus, and history says it will more than likely result in a better outcome than a tall anyway. If I were Carlton I would jump at trading away pick 1. 

    You obviously haven't seen Lukosios play. No way i would take McGovern over him.

    Edited by Jibroni

  • Quote

    5 hours ago, Jibroni said:

    You obviously haven't seen Lukosios play. No way i would take McGovern over him.

    Hype merchants were saying the same about Boyd, McCartin, Patton, Weitering, Francis, and many others I am sure (that is only in the past 5-6 years). There is two things here. Firstly, are talls taken early in the draft going to be better than an already proven quality tall? I would say its unlikely. I would take McGovern ahead of all players I mentioned above. Secondly, are talls taken early more likely to be more value than midfielders taken early? I would again argue that they wouldn't. Over the years there are far more examples of midfielders proving to be of better worth when taken early - as opposed to talls. 

    Carlton would be made not to the pull the trigger on McGovern and a pick downgrade.

  • Quote
    14 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

    Hype merchants were saying the same about Boyd, McCartin, Patton, Weitering, Francis, and many others I am sure (that is only in the past 5-6 years). There is two things here. Firstly, are talls taken early in the draft going to be better than an already proven quality tall? 

    Lukosius is not a tall, he is practically the same size as Nat Fyfe and able to play anywhere. I have seem him live and he is the best SA kid I've seen since Pavlich; big call but ask any SA recruiter and they will say the same.

  • Quote
    • 5 years later...

    Lot of talk about Lukosius now being available, as discussed by Sam Edmund on SEN this morning with Walter and Ben King seemingly Hardwick’s preferred KPF duo.

    He also added that Lukosius is getting fed up with being moved around the park as much as he has been and would like to settle as a KPF. Adelaide boy but apparently not wedded to returning home.

    He hasn’t lived up to his potential thus far, and has a bit of the Jack Watts’ about him in being beautifully skilled but perhaps not relishing the physical side of the game.

    But I reckon we could do a lot worse than getting him in to play that roaming role while JVR (and hopefully Petty) develop as more your stay at home types, especially if he’s available for a pick later than 20 or so.

    Thoughts?

    Edited by Dee Boys

  • Quote
    • Like 3

    it was particularly funny, i thought, that the afl trade radio social post - which apparently is too big an image for me to share here? - asked where he'd be playing in 2024

    i'mma take a wild stab in the dark and say...at gold coast?

    now, 2025, however...

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Haha 1

    Went at 39 goals 22 behinds last year from 66 shots at goal, which is easily his best return from a scoring perspective. He'd potentially assist to address a need and no doubt would fall in front Shac, at least from a depth perspective. If he was gettable it would be prudent to enquire and depending on what was required to facilitate a trade, I'd be keeping my eye on this space from an MFC perspective. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1

    Has such good game sense and kicking skill. Can break games open. Preference to play forward. I’d love him off HB.

    Does he have enough drive and tenacity to fit into our culture? I’m sure those in the know in recruitment world would know about his fit. My gut tells me he wouldn’t be a good club fit. Perhaps too many years at the GC with lowish standards and a losing culture have taken its toll. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     

    Jack L is a gun, would thrive in our environment. Good speed, can jump, kicks it a mile and has a load of natural talent. 

    Got more grunt that JW, IMV. 

    Would be an outstanding get. 

  • Quote
    • Like 5
    • Thanks 1
    • Love 1
    • Clap 1

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 10

      The Sir Doug Nicholls Round kicks off in Darwin with a Top 4 clash between the Suns and the Hawks. On Friday night the Swans will be seeking to rebound from a challenging start to the season, while the Blues have the Top 8 in their sights after their sluggish start. Saturdays matches kick off with a blockbuster between the Collingwood and Kuwarna with the Magpies looking to maintain their strong form and the Crows aiming to make a statement on the road. The Power face a difficult task to revive their season against a resilient Cats side looking to make amends for their narrow loss last week. The Giants aim to reinforce their top-eight status, while the Dockers will be looking to break the travel hoodoo. The sole Saturday game is a critical matchup for both teams, as the Bulldogs strive to cemet their spot in the top six and the Bombers desperately want break into the 8. Sundays start with a bottom 3 clash between the Tigers and Kangaroos with both teams wanting to avoid the being in wooden spoon contention. The Round concludes with the Eagles still searching for their first win of the season, while the Saints look to keep their finals hopes alive with a crucial away victory. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

      • 57 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Brisbane

      And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

      • 9 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Hawthorn

      There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

      • 1 reply
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Footscray

      At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Brisbane

      The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Like
      • 258 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Hawthorn

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • 53 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All