Jack Lukosius

[Whispering_Jack 30,187]

Jack Lukosius turned 17 in August and is not eligible for this year's draft ... but wait until this time next year.

The 194cm South Australian key forward prospect starred in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and last week kicked four goals on debut in a SANFL final for Woodville-West Torrens.

I thought I'd go early with a thread on him because every AFL club is going to want this kid on their list

[Jibroni 5,004]

I watch him play last week and he would have to be in the top 5, reminds me a lot of James Hird (yes dirty comparison i know) and can seriously play.

[ding 5,126]

Not sure why Demonland would be overly excited about a potential top 5 pick next year. If we were a chance, well sure, lets read all about it.

Only way we could look at picks that high is if we traded someone like Hogan at the end of next season.

*Shrug.

[ChaserJ 5,096]

Still room to admire a player who isn't playing for a club we don't like yet.

Yep, Jack's a gun. A little bit of Nick Riewoldt about his style of play.

The early tip for pick one, with the King twins right on his hammer.

[rjay 24,932]

I shudder when I see an under age player staring in the SANFL.

Toumpas was a gun for Woodville the year before his draft year...late debut coming into finals.

Should also add Aish and a number of other kids who have struggled after good seasons in the SANFL.

Unfortunately as we've found out, SANFL form doesn't necessarily translate.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

I shudder when I see an under age player staring in the SANFL.

Toumpas was a gun for Woodville the year before his draft year...late debut coming into finals.

Should also add Aish and a number of other kids who have struggled after good seasons in the SANFL.

Unfortunately as we've found out, SANFL form doesn't necessarily translate.

It could also be type of player. The stars of TAC and SANFL that don't win their own ball struggle at AFL level.

[spirit of norm smith 16,463]

Gun player. Likely top 3 pick in 2018 draft. But why post on Demons site. We have no intent on getting in a position for such a pick. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,187]

You never know. We might trade for some club's 2018 #1 pick and gain a bonanza if that club finishes down the ladder.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

24 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

You never know. We might trade for some club's 2018 #1 pick and gain a bonanza if that club finishes down the ladder.

North, Coll, West Coast or Freo please.

Don't think Brisvegas would be stupid enough to do that.

St Kilda are grinning ear to ear having the Hawks 1st pick this year 

[Whispering_Jack 30,187]

Still out of our reach ... and still a favourite to go #1.

Jack Lukosius - Knightmare’s best draft prospect of the past decade

[rjay 24,932]

Adelaide are really keen to get this kid. How keen? Test them Carlton...

If I were Carlton i would forget the priority pick and look to trade their pick one for the Crouch boys.

Added to Cripps it would give them a quick bump.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,861]

Aren’t Carlton going to use their first pick on McGovern? How Carlton would that be?! 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

The Crows will surely try and package picks and McGovern for Pick 1.  It's an interesting position for Carlton.  With Curnow and McKay  they don't really have a need for another young key forward.  So their decision is to either bypass the best player and go for need (midfielder Walsh) at 1.  Take Lukosius as best player available.  Or to get multiple picks (8, 15, 19 an example) and have a quantity not quality approach at the draft.  They probably have to take Walsh, which then leaves Gold Coast at pick 2 and Pick 3 who the Crows on draft night could try and sway.  The Suns desperately need a key forward but the go-home factor concern will be enormous.  It's quite interesting.  Wouldn't shock me if the Suns take the King brothers at 2 and 3 with Lukosius bizarrely sliding based on non-ability reasonings.  But you'd hope they would back their culture in and take him. 

Edited September 2, 2018 by goodoil
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[KingDingAling 3,758]

36 minutes ago, goodoil said:

The Crows will surely try and package picks and McGovern for Pick 1.  It's an interesting position for Carlton.  With Curnow and McKay  they don't really have a need for another young key forward.  So their decision is to either bypass the best player and go for need (midfielder Walsh) at 1.  Take Lukosius as best player available.  Or to get multiple picks (8, 15, 19 an example) and have a quantity not quality approach at the draft.  They probably have to take Walsh, which then leaves Gold Coast at pick 2 and Pick 3 who the Crows on draft night could try and sway.  The Suns desperately need a key forward but the go-home factor concern will be enormous.  It's quite interesting.  Wouldn't shock me if the Suns take the King brothers at 2 and 3 with Lukosius bizarrely sliding based on non-ability reasonings.  But you'd hope they would back their culture in and take him. 

Carlton are in a good position because more than likely McGovern alone will end up better than a tall they would select with their pick 1. So by trading pick 1 for a slightly worse off pick, and perhaps taking a midfielder with it, will just be a bonus, and history says it will more than likely result in a better outcome than a tall anyway. If I were Carlton I would jump at trading away pick 1. They still have Weitering developing down back, and they have both Curnow and McKay up forward. They are going to need to give Cripps some help in the coming years or he might pull the pin himself. Get in McGovern, get a young mid, have a tilt at another mid next year during FA, and get more development into McKay and Curnow - Carlton will be set up.

[Jibroni 5,004]

45 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Carlton are in a good position because more than likely McGovern alone will end up better than a tall they would select with their pick 1. So by trading pick 1 for a slightly worse off pick, and perhaps taking a midfielder with it, will just be a bonus, and history says it will more than likely result in a better outcome than a tall anyway. If I were Carlton I would jump at trading away pick 1. 

You obviously haven't seen Lukosios play. No way i would take McGovern over him.

Edited September 2, 2018 by Jibroni

[KingDingAling 3,758]

5 hours ago, Jibroni said:

You obviously haven't seen Lukosios play. No way i would take McGovern over him.

Hype merchants were saying the same about Boyd, McCartin, Patton, Weitering, Francis, and many others I am sure (that is only in the past 5-6 years). There is two things here. Firstly, are talls taken early in the draft going to be better than an already proven quality tall? I would say its unlikely. I would take McGovern ahead of all players I mentioned above. Secondly, are talls taken early more likely to be more value than midfielders taken early? I would again argue that they wouldn't. Over the years there are far more examples of midfielders proving to be of better worth when taken early - as opposed to talls. 

Carlton would be made not to the pull the trigger on McGovern and a pick downgrade.

[Jibroni 5,004]

14 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Hype merchants were saying the same about Boyd, McCartin, Patton, Weitering, Francis, and many others I am sure (that is only in the past 5-6 years). There is two things here. Firstly, are talls taken early in the draft going to be better than an already proven quality tall? 

Lukosius is not a tall, he is practically the same size as Nat Fyfe and able to play anywhere. I have seem him live and he is the best SA kid I've seen since Pavlich; big call but ask any SA recruiter and they will say the same.

[Dee Boys 632]

Lot of talk about Lukosius now being available, as discussed by Sam Edmund on SEN this morning with Walter and Ben King seemingly Hardwick’s preferred KPF duo.

He also added that Lukosius is getting fed up with being moved around the park as much as he has been and would like to settle as a KPF. Adelaide boy but apparently not wedded to returning home.

He hasn’t lived up to his potential thus far, and has a bit of the Jack Watts’ about him in being beautifully skilled but perhaps not relishing the physical side of the game.

But I reckon we could do a lot worse than getting him in to play that roaming role while JVR (and hopefully Petty) develop as more your stay at home types, especially if he’s available for a pick later than 20 or so.

Thoughts?

Edited April 16 by Dee Boys

[adonski 12,165]

Tall flanker 

[whatwhat say what 22,772]

it was particularly funny, i thought, that the afl trade radio social post - which apparently is too big an image for me to share here? - asked where he'd be playing in 2024

i'mma take a wild stab in the dark and say...at gold coast?

now, 2025, however...

[whatwhat say what 22,772]

1 minute ago, adonski said:

Tall flanker 

he reminds me so much of jack watts

natural skills but needs to work a lot harder on and off ball

[BLWNBA 1,008]

Went at 39 goals 22 behinds last year from 66 shots at goal, which is easily his best return from a scoring perspective. He'd potentially assist to address a need and no doubt would fall in front Shac, at least from a depth perspective. If he was gettable it would be prudent to enquire and depending on what was required to facilitate a trade, I'd be keeping my eye on this space from an MFC perspective. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Has such good game sense and kicking skill. Can break games open. Preference to play forward. I’d love him off HB.

Does he have enough drive and tenacity to fit into our culture? I’m sure those in the know in recruitment world would know about his fit. My gut tells me he wouldn’t be a good club fit. Perhaps too many years at the GC with lowish standards and a losing culture have taken its toll. 

[Cranky Franky 2,061]

Are Demonlanders going to post up every friggin player who is coming off contract in the next 2 years ?

BORING

[Dee*ceiving 1,674]

Jack L is a gun, would thrive in our environment. Good speed, can jump, kicks it a mile and has a load of natural talent. 

Got more grunt that JW, IMV. 

Would be an outstanding get.