Farewell Jack Watts

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

You're a good poster Wise.

In my observation, using the word 'pal' tends to fire people up.

In this thread in particular, it'd be kind of be good to take the oxygen out of the fire, rather than add to it.

As an aside, I have found the arguments put forward for trading Watts to be absolutely compelling. In between the 'lols' and the other stupid posts, there is actually some interesting and informative discussion on this thread. To those posters, thanks.

 

Who was that poster who disappeared that called everyone 'champ' to cringeworthy excess? ?

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47 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Who was that poster who disappeared that called everyone 'champ' to cringeworthy excess? ?

you thinking of rangerover?

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26 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you thinking of rangerover?

Stuie 

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I've never opened the Scully thread, so don't know what it's about. but I'd like this to go for longer.

Is it possible ?

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I've never opened the Scully thread, so don't know what it's about. but I'd like this to go for longer.

Is it possible ?

If it does, I will blame Jack Watts As for the No T$ no B$ thread, nobody knows what that is about ...

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8 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

If it does, I will blame Jack Watts As for the No T$ no B$ thread, nobody knows what that is about ...

The ridiculous price of bananas, several years ago

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On 22/10/2017 at 8:43 AM, Hogan2014 said:

The Watts era has ended without the Demons salvaging anything notable from their 28 draft selections between 2006 and 2011.  No top 20 picks are at the club anymore !

With Jack Trengove delisted and Colin Garland retiring, only three (Max Gawn, Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald) from that era remain at Melbourne.

I read these words allegedly from the pen of Mark Robinson a number of time. I've been troubled by the logic* of the statements. Is he saying that we had 28 top 20 picks or 28 draft selections overall between 2006 and 2011? Similarly, as he has said the Demons didn't salvage "anything notable" from these 28 draft selections, is he also suggesting that Max Gawn, Tom McDonald and Neville Jetta don't qualify as "notable"? 

*I realise some might say Mark Robinson's writing only has a passing resemblance to logic at the best of times.  

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11 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've never opened the Scully thread, so don't know what it's about. but I'd like this to go for longer.

Is it possible ?

Well Jack has another 5 or 6  or so years of senior footy. And will play us perhaps 10 times. 

His great games will be highlighted and his poor ones not so evident but reflected on nonetheless. They are likely to make finals and a re a good chance to finish top four so we will see a lot of Jack at the pointy end.

Imagine if they win a flag with Jack. Good lord!

So i think there is little chance this thread will die. Perhaps it should be renamed again though. Farewell Jack Watts won't cut it next year (and to be honest is not really cutting it now).

I hope though that whatever happens to the thread we keep away from character assassination of jack, goody and mahoney. And for that matter i hope we don't see any more scurrilous rumor and innuendo about Jack's extra curricular activity. Totally uncalled for and Jack deserves much, much better from demon's fans.

To be clear PD i'm not suggesting you have engaged in such behavior, quite the contrary you have been very respectful, focused on Jack as footballer not a person and showed admirable constraint in not posting some gif of someone jumping up and down saying I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!  

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22 minutes ago, binman said:

Imagine if they win a flag with Jack. Good lord!

You know it's going to happen.

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I read these words allegedly from the pen of Mark Robinson a number of time. I've been troubled by the logic* of the statements. Is he saying that we had 28 top 20 picks or 28 draft selections overall between 2006 and 2011? Similarly, as he has said the Demons didn't salvage "anything notable" from these 28 draft selections, is he also suggesting that Max Gawn, Tom McDonald and Neville Jetta don't qualify as "notable"? 

*I realise some might say Mark Robinson's writing only has a passing resemblance to logic at the best of times.  

They were late picks. Gawn pick 34 - McDonald pick 53 -Jetta originally pick 51 then rookied at 50

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On 10/20/2017 at 1:05 PM, beelzebub said:

Does that make Jack >>>> Lowbacca ...Lowie...a ...Jedi !! 

You've got me on this one B. Can't get my head around it. Too many brain cells lost from "late into the night" battles with Johnnie Walker I guess. 

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49 minutes ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

You've got me on this one B. Can't get my head around it. Too many brain cells lost from "late into the night" battles with Johnnie Walker I guess. 

In the world of Star Wars Chewbacca is the uncle to 'Lowie' (Lowbacca)

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On 10/21/2017 at 8:04 AM, Stretch Johnson said:

1.  It's a disgrace

2. The typ×e of person you are dealing with is self evident casting serious doubt on the information

3.  The relationship between the poster and player is far less likely to produce objective information anyway 

4.  It's a disgrace

Mmmmmm. Interesting.

I fear you have indeed been stretching your johnson a little too forcefully but anyway, to humour you, I'll assume that you are serious.

In regard to Point 2 can you explain what information I have put on DL that you would seriously doubt.

Point 3 I can understand. And if we extend the reasoning of your statement, you will obviously agree that the relationship between the club and supporters is far less likely to produce objective information, too.

As for you're "It's a disgrace comment, could you please show me any of my comments that have caused a sense of 'disgrace' in you? It would be most welcome. Thank you.

Edited October 23, 2017 by ChewyOnMyBoot

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On 10/21/2017 at 1:50 PM, Wiseblood said:

@praha - the above is easily the best summation of the situation in 267 pages.  Couldn't have put it any better.

 

On 10/21/2017 at 2:53 PM, Satyriconhome said:

That's a bit harsh on Wise, I've read all of them as well, on my lunch breaks etc, I must admit mainly for the comedy value in some of them

I also agree with Wise, the summation is very good, although I said the same thing about 150 posts ago, perhaps I should have used more words

 

Wow. Talk about being pleased with ourselves. I guess you two are the posters we should all be measuring ourselves against hey?

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All these news posts now about Old Lady Barb calling up SEN, having a cry about Watts being traded and threatening to not renew her membership.

Embarrassing.

Edited October 23, 2017 by praha

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6 minutes ago, praha said:

All these news posts now about Old Lady Barb calling up SEN, having a cry about Watts being traded and threatening to not renew her membership.

Embarrassing.

YeahI just rang up and said I admire the passion. But just get over Watts. Been on the list for 9 years most only lag 3-4.. move on! Marko and ox chuckled abit. I had to be quick as it wa just before the news. I wanted to mention being a member for 57 years doesn’t mean you understand list management.

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1 hour ago, MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday said:

YeahI just rang up and said I admire the passion. But just get over Watts. Been on the list for 9 years most only lag 3-4.. move on! Marko and ox chuckled abit. I had to be quick as it wa just before the news. I wanted to mention being a member for 57 years doesn’t mean you understand list management.

Yeah, Barb, get over it!

Ffs, Barb, what do you know about list management?

Stupid, emotional bore

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19 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Because I don't trust the bloke.  He's turned up here as the Watts stuff took off and went from being totally harmless on the issue to claiming he is Watts' uncle.  Then he has to think about sticking with the Dees because, you know, he's supported us for 9 years which is the length of time Jack has been with the club.

This is purely my opinion, but Chewy is a troll.  I wouldn't believe a word he types on this forum.  Hence, why I encouraged him to 'jog on'.

I'd never use that turn of phrase with posters who have been here for a long time or shown themselves to be quality contributors to these forums.  He's neither.

So I'm Jack's uncle. How would you suggest I prove that?

Why does that cause you so much concern? And why does it offend you that I would find it difficult to continue supporting the Dees given that Jack has been moved on? My post about that was honest and I thought I explained my dilemna quite well. Obviously you beg to differ. In any case I didn't think it warranted the aggressive response.

Assuming that it is ok for someone on DL (an MFC member at that) to report the other side of the story, and other than what I have mentioned above, is there anything in particular that I have posted that has caused you grief?

Some posters on here claim that I can't possibly be objective about what I have to say (and so obviously believe I am Jack's uncle) because of my relationship with Jack. I can understand where they're coming from but I would like to think that I have been more objective than most in what I have posted. I wonder if any posters on DL recognise that the same 'objectivity' logic that has been applied to me, also applies to themselves and the FD i.e. that their objectivity can be affected because of their "relationship". Anyone who thinks everything the FD of any AFL club puts out in the media is the truth, rather than just what they want you to hear, really does need a reality check.

There are a number of posters that publish opinions or rumours on here and present them as fact. Not surprisingly, each time I have asked for them to back up their claims they either don't come back at all or what they do come back with is hardly factual . I take particular umbrage when comments are made about Jacks 'partying ways' (e.g. on the pi55 3 or 4 times a week) or the supposedly poor view in which the players and/or all the other AFL clubs view him. You will have noticed that I haven't taken issue with any posters that have stated an opinion on Jack's football skills or performance or whether he should be moved on. Because everyone's entitled to their opinion.

Apologies if I haven't quite shown, at all times on this thread, the respect and good manners that I should have. Hardly an island in that respect.

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3 hours ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

 

Wow. Talk about being pleased with ourselves. I guess you two are the posters we should all be measuring ourselves against hey?

I hope you don't try, failing to even get close could be detrimental to your  already frail self esteem

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53 minutes ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

the supposedly poor view in which ... all the other AFL clubs view him.

Nothing "supposedly" about the fact that the highest offer we had for Jack was pick 31 from Port. That's how other clubs view him.

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1 hour ago, ChewyOnMyBoot said:

Anyone who thinks everything the FD of any AFL club puts out in the media is the truth, rather than just what they want you to hear, really does need a reality check.

 

I asked a fellow Dee at work the other day what he thought of the Watts trade.

He responded by calling all supporters mushrooms.

I asked "huh?" 

He responds " You know, kept in the dark and fed crap!"

So true.

Edited October 23, 2017 by Demon77

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7 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Nothing "supposedly" about the fact that the highest offer we had for Jack was pick 31 from Port. That's how other clubs view him.

bing, at the end of the day, his papers were stamped

Pick 31, 55, 103, didn't matter - he was gone

 

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Still not friggen happy !! 

By Jesus H Christ {if he ever existed} if this goes Belly Up 

Sheeeeeeeit!

Stand By!!

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59 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Still not friggen happy !! 

By Jesus H Christ {if he ever existed} if this goes Belly Up 

Sheeeeeeeit!

Stand By!!

As always, love your work picket.

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