15 hours ago, Abe said:

I can understand why you defend him saty, it's his guns isn't it??

Not defending, just watched him play and train and discussed him with other players and coaches

16 hours ago, Nasher said:

I'm sure Steve appreciates the reminder that what he posted was his opinion.  I'm not sure whose opinion he thought he was posting.

Yes sorry,  of course he is right and some others aren't, what was I thinking

14 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes sorry,  of course he is right and some others aren't, what was I thinking

Nasher wasn't making an assessment on the validity of Steve's opinion or otherwise, moreso the needless futility of you telling Steve that's "your opinion", something Steve was almost certainly aware of.

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Not defending, just watched him play and train and discussed him with other players and coaches

but felt the need to let someone who was

questioning his place on the list know that, seems like you were defending him. And most likely because of his guns 

Just an update on list management. 

Lamumba gone.

Hulett, Kennedy, Garland - likely to be delisted

Trengove, Vandenburg - on the edge.  Kent to return to WA??

suggest 5 go (Lamumba. Hulett. Kennedy. Garland. Vandenburg to rookie list to overcome injury). Mitch White delisted off rookie list so Vandenburg can be retained.

Joel Smith elevated.  Plus 3 draftees. Plus one trade/free agent.

Another mid with pace, a key defender and a ruckman as support. 

 

This thread is eerily quiet for this time of the year. Spooky

On 09/06/2017 at 7:46 PM, Nasher said:

I'm sure Steve appreciates the reminder that what he posted was his opinion.  I'm not sure whose opinion he thought he was posting.

 

Even the guys who look likely to be delisted on the most part have played good footy at AFL Level. 

I genuinely hope at least a few of them good another opportunity 

 

Clearly a big shake up is needed in the playing list. Delistings are crucial and there are many players I'd love to see the back of.

I will rank in order the 10 biggest list cloggers

Lumumba

Garland

Hullett

White

JKH

Trengove

Wagner

Kent

Vince

Stretch

I wouldn't classify stretch a list clogger still very young had a bad year but shown he is capable no chance of going. He is also what we need run and decent skill.the rest i agree with but unfortunatly i think Vince Kent and Wagner will still be there 

2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

I wouldn't classify stretch a list clogger still very young had a bad year but shown he is capable no chance of going. He is also what we need run and decent skill.the rest i agree with but unfortunatly i think Vince Kent and Wagner will still be there 

He doesn't have the tools to make it as a wingman, is short, slow and has poor foot skills

Edited August 28, 20178 yr by Elegt
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10 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Clearly a big shake up is needed in the playing list. Delistings are crucial and there are many players I'd love to see the back of.

I will rank in order the 10 biggest list cloggers

Lumumba - Gone

Garland - Gone

Hullett - Gone

White - Gone

JKH - Stayng

Trengove - Gone

Wagner - staying

Kent - Trade or staying

Vince - Staying

Stretch - staying

 

Well they aren't going to clear out 10 players in 1 hit and it will depend on contract status. Garland, JKH and Stretch all have contracts for next year and beyond. Agree that Lumumba, Hullett, Trengove and White will not get new contracts.

Team selection for Casey over the next few weeks will tell us a lot

Just now, Older demon said:

Well they aren't going to clear out 10 players in 1 hit and it will depend on contract status. Garland, JKH and Stretch all have contracts for next year and beyond. Agree that Lumumba, Hullett, Trengove and White will not get new contracts.

Team selection for Casey over the next few weeks will tell us a lot

Why oh why is Garland still contracted?!?!

5 minutes ago, Elegt said:

He doesn't have the tools to make it as a wingman, is slow and has poor foot skills

So he is fits in well at our club

H, Trengove, Hullett will be our three mandatory spots.  Kennedy not sure who he has [censored] off not to get an AFL game this year.  Vince hard call but he really struggled this year and his last kick on Saturday summed up his season.

 

A bit hard to delist Lumumba when he's not even on the list anymore....

The whole fken lot

10 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

A bit hard to delist Lumumba when he's not even on the list anymore....

I think he was still on the books hence the official delisting

3/4 of list on the trade table and go from there.

He-he. Good to see we're paying attention to Chris Scott and not throwing the baby out with the bathwater here!!!

34 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Clearly a big shake up is needed in the playing list. Delistings are crucial and there are many players I'd love to see the back of.

I will rank in order the 10 biggest list cloggers

Lumumba

Garland

Hullett

White

JKH

Trengove

Wagner

Kent

Vince

Stretch

They are not our problem - only Vince has played regularly this year and he has said he is happy to play games at Casey next year if he stays.

It may make people feel good to delist 10 players but it is only tweaking around the fringe and will not fix the bigger problem.

The bigger problem is a game plan which does not currently match the players we have and a huge lack of player smarts and disposal skills.  If our coach is flexible he can fix the former, the latter takes more than one season.

Edited August 28, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

1. Troy Chaplin.

21 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

A bit hard to delist Lumumba when he's not even on the list anymore....

For this year, yes he was.

Keep Oliver, Viney, Jetta, Hibberd and Hogan. Jetta can be captain. The rest can take their overinflated pay packets and [censored] off

 

 

On second thoughts that is harsh on Jones. Delist and rookie

Whoever the tackling coach is. Either they dont know their craft or the players dont listen. We have been horrific all year.