On 01/09/2017 at 07:29, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Who would we all prefer? A fully fit 25-30 goal a year Kent or Hannan? Hannan basically took Kent's spot.

I think Kent at his best is better than Hannan who had too many quiet games and at 24 can he be expected to take the next step?

 

Goes missing a lot & not aways an accurate kick although he can take the occasional speccy

  On 29/08/2017 at 08:25, samcantstandya said:

However stooged us

Howe was a lazy s..t when he played for Melbourne! 

Rarely ever did anything other than go for hangers, never chased or ran. 

  On 29/08/2017 at 13:02, 64" said:

Responding to a previous post, l agree Rawlings as a backline coach needs to be delisted.Does anyone rate Fritsch playing in the vfl?

Our backline as a group make basics errors:

- how often do 3 go up for punch and nobody stays down or

- leave goal side open at boundary throw ins e.g. Vs Pies last week & soft goals

  On 01/09/2017 at 08:19, beelzebub said:

Its an odd thing from my cheap seats. You get someone to give you an 'edge' but we appeared to have NONE. Quite the reverse at times.  Now this could also mean without him we would have been worse. ( god forbid )

or his value isnt that crash hot

or...i dunno...

Not sure Im seeing the benefit... I might need to get better seats !!

Seriously?

We were forced to improvise from the Cats game to the West Coast game and we improvised brilliantly with outstanding strategic thinking. It didn't just happen, and it wasn't just a run of lucky guesses.

Then from the Swans game on, all that enterprise disappeared. Either it dried up, or it still flowed but was ignored. We became rigid and predictable.

Or ... we didn't???

  On 01/09/2017 at 01:09, poita said:

Vandenberg, Kent, Kennedy, Spencer & Bugg have zero value

Agree on Kennedy, but Spencer has value, even as reliable second ruck, and VDB and Kent could be looked at, they've both had matches where they showed they could play. Bugg ... not sure, perhaps for a team looking for a stopper or tagger.

Also agree that none of them are worth much, but even a 3rd round pick isn't to be sniffed at, and I would have thought that that was a possibility.

DELISTINGS

WATTS (TRADE)

LUMUMBA

TRENGOVE

HULETT 

SPENCER (FA)

KENNEDY

Watts and pick 10 gets traded for Lever

Maynard and Joel.Smith get upgraded to the senior list.

We have picks 27, 45 and 64.

White gets delisted from the rookie list.

^ That would be too much for Lever 

  On 01/09/2017 at 14:36, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

^ That would be too much for Lever 

What would you do to get Lever

i love your enthusiasm. but cool your jets 

  On 01/09/2017 at 12:46, Akum said:

Seriously?

Yes

Somewhere..i think Post 2017..i dunno...so many threads, i explore our starts.Sad reading.

We were...in the venacular....fukkin useless. 

Who inputted ? Who's responsible. Obviously the players...and then ?

In F1 it's ALL about the start. Most competition is ALL about the start.

Nothing new here, except to us.

We're slower than snails on valium come that firstvwhistle.

We embrace catch up footy with a ... You win some you lose some attitude. 

Marvee

  On 01/09/2017 at 14:39, WERRIDEE said:

What would you do to get Lever

Certainly would not have Watts in the trading game. Injury mucked up his second half of the season. Just like big Max.

So how does it actually play out?

• retirements announced as the clubs and players finish (none from the seniors, unlikely any from Casey finals players.)
• post season reviews happened or happening relative to VFL commitments. (So about 14 still to do as they are playing for Casey?)
• list review.  Hard decisions made.  Probably happening now. I expect players will know where they stand (required, trade possibility, likely delist if can't find another club).
• players make their own decisions (Spencer as a free agent, Lever begging to be traded to us), inform the club.
• trade period
• delistings prior to list lodgement.

Does this sound about right?

So realistically we will have little news- maybe just some good rumours- between now and trade period.  I hope we are 'surgical' in our approach this year (no scattergun!) and can Leverage the type of talent we need to round the team out for finals in 18.

  On 01/09/2017 at 23:02, buck_nekkid said:

So how does it actually play out?

• retirements announced as the clubs and players finish (none from the seniors, unlikely any from Casey finals players.)
• post season reviews happened or happening relative to VFL commitments. (So about 14 still to do as they are playing for Casey?)
• list review.  Hard decisions made.  Probably happening now. I expect players will know where they stand (required, trade possibility, likely delist if can't find another club).
• players make their own decisions (Spencer as a free agent, Lever begging to be traded to us), inform the club.
• trade period
• delistings prior to list lodgement.

Does this sound about right?

So realistically we will have little news- maybe just some good rumours- between now and trade period.  I hope we are 'surgical' in our approach this year (no scattergun!) and can Leverage the type of talent we need to round the team out for finals in 18.

As has been posted by a few others, we should now avoid recruiting any depth players. Any trades or FA's should be seen as best 22 or ignored.

The draft can give us more depth players, being the ones that don't quite make it,  added to those we retain.

Don't think we'll hear anything, delisting wise, until after Casey's finals campaign

  On 01/09/2017 at 14:39, WERRIDEE said:

What would you do to get Lever

Pick 10 is almost enough. Maybe put that with a Kent/JKH/BenKen or last resort Frost

  On 02/09/2017 at 03:00, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Pick 10 is almost enough. Maybe put that with a Kent/JKH/BenKen or last resort Frost

I don't think Adelaide would even look at those players. They struggle to get a game for us let alone get a game for Adelaide.

Watts has currency which that list you mention have none. Remember that Lever was in the AA squad so they will want quality for Lever if he is on the move.

  On 28/08/2017 at 01:55, fndee said:

On second thoughts that is harsh on Jones. Delist and rookie

I had to stop at this comment. Pathetically disrespectful to a guy who has been busting his ass for the club for years when we were putrid. 

He along with many others let the club down at the end, but show some respect. 

As for who gets the outright chop Trenners I'm sad to say has run his race. We'll never know how good he could've been had it not been for his foot injury and I honestly feel the club pushed too far with the first occurrence. But the game has passed him, I hope he gets a chance elsewhere. I doubt it though. 

I notice some posters are prepared to trade our first round pick.

Madness I reckon.

  On 02/09/2017 at 23:51, Bitter but optimistic said:

I notice some posters are prepared to trade our first round pick.

Madness I reckon.

Might be, but it will be the starting point in the Lever trade.

  On 03/09/2017 at 04:11, Redleg said:

Might be, but it will be the starting point in the Lever trade.

Would be a massive win if we could somehow keep it 

too many spuds on the list 

  On 02/09/2017 at 23:51, Bitter but optimistic said:

I notice some posters are prepared to trade our first round pick.

Madness I reckon.

agreed we should use pick 10 in the draft .. we've had so much luck around that number. could draft another lucas cook! 

  On 03/09/2017 at 10:50, Die Hard Demon said:

agreed we should use pick 10 in the draft .. we've had so much luck around that number. could draft another lucas cook! 

Well, whilst we're being superstitious, can we go the other way? 

Patrick Dangerfield (pick 10 ... 2007 draft)

Cook was pick 12, as was Nathan Jones. It's just a number.

Comes down to our recruiters, the coaches and development team, and luck with injuries.

The first two we can control, even the third, to some extent. 

 

  On 03/09/2017 at 04:11, Redleg said:

Might be, but it will be the starting point in the Lever trade.

 

  On 03/09/2017 at 10:50, Die Hard Demon said:

agreed we should use pick 10 in the draft .. we've had so much luck around that number. could draft another lucas cook! 

From my admittedly non expert reading of the draft it seems there will be potentially very good options at pick 10.

It would have to be a very good outcome to part with it.