Not sure you would even contemplate resigning Vandenberg until after the trade period. Aside from being a permanent fixture in the medical rooms, he is hardly a core player. Fringe players should be offered contracts only when everyone else is taken care of.

PS Hopefully the time off his feet has given him a chance to learn to handball on the chest of a teammate.

Good to see more demonlanders still view AVB as best 22. I certainly do.

And that's saying something. It's going to be a tough 22 to get into. We know year to year because of form and injuries, as well as trades and list structure in off seasons, a best 22 never looks the same. I can see many of our mid-range players dropping off... and it only needs to be an ANB, Hannah type for AVB to find his place again. He brings a lot to the table.

On 11/08/2017 at 10:13 PM, DemonAndrew said:

has speed, loves a tackle, tough in the clinches...can't kick

if he can sort out the latter he'll be best 22, otherwise he's at best fringe

and i hope 100% that he can because his other attributes are great

And just how important is it to have competent tough competitive combative fringe or depth players?

Make THE difference. 

yeah, i meant he'd be the best of our fringe

i rate vdb, and it would seem the coaches do too

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

And just how important is it to have competent tough competitive combative fringe or depth players?

Make THE difference. 

If he is crap kick then he is a liability

On 11/08/2017 at 6:48 PM, beelzebub said:

Is he the new JT ? 

or is he the new Jayden Hunt who couldn't get on the ground for two seasons ? (so many calling for his delisting)

The problem is none of us know....

( the difference is that I think we can imagine VDB's best where none of us really had an inkling that JH would be quite as good as he is. I laugh now when I think back to some posters who questioned JH's speed when he had his first few games at Casey)

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by nutbean

I'd keep. Assuming theres room

He's a very handy and versitile player. One of those tall mids who can pintch hit up forward.

No world bester but come.across as a good bloke who gives his all.

14 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

I'd keep. Assuming theres room

He's a very handy and versitile player. One of those tall mids who can pintch hit up forward.

No world bester but come.across as a good bloke who gives his all.

Well there's a death sentence for a career.

2 hours ago, Danelska said:

Well there's a death sentence for a career.

That's a good point... haven't had great luck at our club 

Here's hoping that can turn around

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by Unleash Hell

Wants out. Won't be surprised if a deal is struck during trade week and he's sent to a side that'll let him cement a spot in their midfield

9 minutes ago, Demonetta13 said:

Wants out. Won't be surprised if a deal is struck during trade week and he's sent to a side that'll let him cement a spot in their midfield

Can't imagine it being so after we were the ones who gave him his chance when no one else wanted to.

Also, every time he's been fit he's really played.

Surely you can't be for real??

20 minutes ago, Demonetta13 said:

Wants out. Won't be surprised if a deal is struck during trade week and he's sent to a side that'll let him cement a spot in their midfield

tomato sauce ?

1 minute ago, Bay Riffin said:

tomato sauce ?

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

Getting on a park would help.........

4 minutes ago, Demonetta13 said:

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

Why, he seems to have cemented his spot on the injured list?

18 minutes ago, Demonetta13 said:

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

Do they have spots available on their long term injury list?

23 minutes ago, Demonetta13 said:

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

Not happy with his role?  Bit hard to be given one when you are not even on the park.

This is a rubbish rumour of the highest order.

Yeh, I find it hard to believe that ^

Especially given the way he spoke about next year in his latest interview.

Unhappy ???? We're all unhappy he can't get on the field

1 hour ago, Demonetta13 said:

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

He sounded happy in the interview last week - he had just come back from a China holiday and doing promotional work there (I assumed that was for the club but not sure). 

Maybe contract talks have started and he isn't happy with the offer.  Its tough for him, having spent 50% of his 3 years injured so hasn't been able to show what he can really do.  But also tough for the club to evaluate what he can offer.

But if Vand is doing a dummy spit because he isn't getting the role he wants it would be really disappointing given the support the club has provided. 

He could ask for a one year deal, back himself in and earn a spot in the midfield and renegotiate for 2019 and beyond.  But if he wants it handed to him on a platter then fine he can go elsewhere. 

Hope he stays!

A tallish midfielder who is versatile and can roost a footy when need be. Would hope we can have him on our list next year

Rubbish rumour, how can you be unhappy with the midfield time you are getting when you haven't even been fit to play all year ?

rookie spot and re-assess after pre-season

 

He would have been useful up forward playing a similar role to Trac. Some of our forward pressure could have been addressed had he been available this season. I still think he has a role to play.

12 hours ago, Demonetta13 said:

Have connections to the club through my work and the mail we got is he's not too happy with his role and wants a chance to play full-time in the middle. Somewhere like Hawthorn or Carlton preferred destinations.

And pray tell, what role does he seek?  Playing footy would be a good start.

He has seemed able to get a game almost every week when he isn't injured. 

Not sure how to find the numbers but I can't remember his playing too many at Casey