POSTMATCH DISCUSSION - Round 20

[layzie 33,716]

Today looked like something out of 2014, 2015 or even last year. Not only did they go 8 or 9 unanswered but we barely got a touch in that time. I'd never expect any side to play finals looking like that. Let alone us.

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29 minutes ago, Diamond said:

So we sneak in then LOSE big time. Really?? Is that what you want?

We sneak in and a few things fall our way and we have a big final. Who knows what confidence we'll get from that the following week/s (and next year) - you're implying a losing big time, i'm not. We have 3 big games at our Home that are winnable. The footy landscape can change drastically in a month.

Look at how Port were percieved after their loss to us two weeks ago, all they have to do is win a few their remaining games with some hard work and good fortune, and they get a final against Adelaide. That's 1 game they can roll the dice on with an all or nothing effort. Home prelim if the chips fall their way.

Edited August 5, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[layzie 33,716]

59 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Both

Troy Chaplin pls 

[beelzebub 23,306]

Well you can have a Goodwin

Or

A Bad Loss

Simple Simon might need to look at changing his name !!

Good luck next year SG, this year's cooked.

Better recipe and ingredients required.

[layzie 33,716]

Hope there's at least another Good-win this season..

[Coq au vin 755]

17 minutes ago, DominatrixTyson said:

We sneak in and a few things fall our way and we have a big final. Who knows what confidence we'll get from that the following week/s (and next year) - you're implying a losing big time, i'm not. We have 3 big games at our Home that are winnable. The footy landscape can change drastically in a month.

Look at how Port were percieved after their loss to us two weeks ago, all they have to do is win a few their remaining games with some hard work and good fortune, and they get a final against Adelaide. That's 1 game they can roll the dice on with an all or nothing effort. Home prelim if the chips fall their way.

Pig's arse. This team is cooked for this year and needs a major injection of tall, fast, strong talent. Look at how the filth beat Norf tonight.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

I'm done with this year were cooked if Norf didn't crush me this put the nail in the coffin. Im just speachless anything I could say wouldn't come close to how upsetting this team has been. 

 

[Coq au vin 755]

And that little [censored] stain scully should have been cleaned up by one of our players big time. Little [censored].

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7 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Pig's arse. This team is cooked for this year and needs a major injection of tall, fast, strong talent. Look at how the filth beat Norf tonight.

It might very well be the case that the seasons is done for us, we at least get home ground back on our side and we're not playing 1st and 2nd at an oval we never play on, but St K Bris and Coll who we've beaten already this year and are winnable games if we can get some early confidence in next weeks game with a big start and attack the ball as hard as we've done all year. 

+ North are 17th for a reason, they don't win back to back games. No point comparing us to their game. Haven't Collingwood got the wood over Geelong too? And yet we have the wood over Collingwood. A lot can change in a week or two.

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[beelzebub 23,306]

8 minutes ago, layzie said:

Hope there's at least another Good-win this season..

Hoping at least the last game

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Just now, DominatrixTyson said:

It might very well be the case that the seasons is done for us, we at least get home ground back on our side and we're not playing 1st and 2nd at an oval we never play on, but St K Bris and Coll who we've beaten already this year and are winnable games if we can get some early confidence in next weeks game with a big start. 

+ North are 17th for a reason, they don't win back to back games. No point comparing us to their game, Haven't Collingwood got the wood over Geelong too? And yet we have the wood over Collingwood.

 

So how did we ever lose to norf?

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Just now, Diamond said:

So how did we ever lose to norf?

How did Adelaide? Combination of many factors. We've had a poor stretch of form as did Adelaide, but it can be turned around and we've now got a decent enough fixture to make an attempt - And if we can turn it around then the question of what we can do in the finals will have changed.

[layzie 33,716]

Yeah, only problem is we've lost to them twice

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1 minute ago, layzie said:

Yeah, only problem is we've lost to them twice

Maybe we should just play a 22 game series vs North every year, if that's our measure of worth.

Edited August 5, 2017 by DominatrixTyson

[layzie 33,716]

Just now, DominatrixTyson said:

Maybe we should just play a 22 game series vs North every year, if that's our measure of worth.

How about we just beat them when we're supposed to

[Demon Jack 6,836]

This season is far from over. Until then, there's no point in complaining like it is.

We still have three very winnable games left and this season is so incredibly even that even 12 wins might sneak us into the eight if we're lucky with percentage. 

 

 

[Hampton 22 519]

Two observations. As woeful as our performance was, one small positive was that we matched GWS on the scoreboard after the first quarter. Secondly, Melbourne seems to have struggled forever with windy venues. We are always disadvantaged kicking into the wind, but rarely kick a bagful with it.

[doc roet 1,287]

Looking like 2016 all over again, build you up just to let you down.Maybe the whole team needs a week off.Should take the lot of them up to some sunny spot and let them play in the surf.So weird, the team on paper looks really good but when it comes to game day something goes haywire.just can't  click at the moment.

[titan_uranus 24,959]

I haven't seen the game, but it feels like our frustration at losing to North is the real problem.

We're 2-4 since we beat West Coast. The losses have been to Adelaide (1st), GWS (2nd), Sydney (flag contender).

And North.

Essendon and the Dogs today put in poor performances against poor sides but both found a way to get over the line knowing how important a win was. We couldn't do that last week and we're paying the price for it now. Win last week and we're 11-8 and still in the 8, even with today's bad loss.

It feels to me like we are going to have to win out to make finals from here. Our percentage isn't great and at the end of this round it's likely 8th will have 11 wins. So I doubt 12 will get us in.

[Schneider 220]

Some optimism we're still in for finals from some on here. I'm in the too hard camp. Just not liking our football at the moment, nothing to be excited about. And needing to win 3 to make it reminds me of the Carlton debacle last year. I had 1k on Melbourne making the 8 so annoyed we can't limp in.

[GoD's67 111]

3 hours ago, Redlagged said:

Main problem - we lack class. Have no great players.We have a lot of good ones, some very good, but no A grade talent. (I wait on Pettrarca, with diminishing hope.) Our two genuine competition-class players are defenders: Hibberd and Jetta. So we are doomed to mid-table, at best.

No A grade talent, your overlooking:

Oliver 

Max when fit

Hogan when fit

Hunt when fit

We have a lot of players with significant upside!

The injuries mixed with a punishing draw have finally caught up with our team. 

[titan_uranus 24,959]

I don't want to make excuses but I'd be surprised if the cramming in of the 6-day breaks and all of our travel in recent weeks is taking its toll.

Our first 7 games were in Melbourne. Of the 12 since, we've played 6 of them interstate. We've also had four or five 6-day breaks in the same period. That includes three of our last four games (all losses), all being interstate, including Darwin (and another 6-day break).

Again, not an excuse, but I'm sure not a coincidence that at the end of these 12 weeks we're tiring.

[Oneday 248]

I guess one positive of today is here comes yet another top ten draft pick. 

[praha 11,226]

1 hour ago, DominatrixTyson said:

It might very well be the case that the seasons is done for us, we at least get home ground back on our side and we're not playing 1st and 2nd at an oval we never play on, but St K Bris and Coll who we've beaten already this year and are winnable games if we can get some early confidence in next weeks game with a big start and attack the ball as hard as we've done all year. 

+ North are 17th for a reason, they don't win back to back games. No point comparing us to their game. Haven't Collingwood got the wood over Geelong too? And yet we have the wood over Collingwood. A lot can change in a week or two.

 

Yeah but we best Adelaide. The problem is that we have turned up for a few games that kinda sorta matter but gone missing in game that have mattered. 2010 and 2011 were just that. Last week we faltered bad not just as a team but as a club. IMO Goodwin's response re. Not worrying about past records is indicative of a man that doesn't quite understand the cultural significance of his role. Adelaide have been successful but Melbourne is a foundation club with 4-5 generation supporters. It's a learning curve for him and imo he's struggling now. Finals won't happen this year because this club just isn't ready yet.  It makes me so sad...but it's the reality.

[Willmoy1947 4,067]

Today i witnessed one side laughing at the Umpiring because they were getting so many free kicks given to them, and the other side laughing at the Umpiring because they were getting so many free kicks against them.... go figure.....

Oh, and the usual Yellow Maggots were there.