Changes vs St Kilda

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

What's St Kilda's record at the G this year? (Too lazy to do own research) 

[SaberFang 7,141]

2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

What's St Kilda's record at the G this year? (Too lazy to do own research) 

Hard to say; they haven't played there once.

But just to help you lose some sleep, they played there 3 times last year for 3 wins.

[Lucifers Hero 37,407]

Just now, SaberFang said:

Hard to say; they haven't played there once.

But just to help you lose some sleep, they played there 3 times last year for 3 wins.

One of which was when they very convincingly beat us...

Its worth noting he Saints thrashed WCE on every key criteria today.  We will need to play out of skins to beat them.  Our win vs them in round 1 is a distant memory and means nothing next week.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

4 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Hard to say; they haven't played there once.

But just to help you lose some sleep, they played there 3 times last year for 3 wins.

Thanks SF... I think.

very interesting it'll be their first run at the G ?

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

Also, can I just say, I would hope for a BIG turnout by our members/supporters next week. 

All well and good for us to sit here put it all on the players whilst wallowing in crapulence ; we ought to get down there and make some bloody noise. We still have a shot at this and I'd be so disappointed if a half-arsed crowd showed up. I read a comment earlier re; the club's poor image - well at the very least we can do our bit to make it hard as possible for the Anits!

I'll be there with bells on my balls, knuckle dusters on and a lungful of barracking for one last roll of the dice! 

[SaberFang 7,141]

They've only won twice away from Docklands this year: against Hawthorn in Tasmania and against Fremantle at Domain (two rubbish teams who, unsurprisingly, beat us).

Comparatively, we've beaten Adelaide in Adelaide, West Coast at Domain, Gold Coast at Alice, plus Essendon, Dogs & Saints at Docklands. Would be impressive if not for the laundry list of gimme games we've blown. It's rendered all the upsets meaningless.

It's all for naught as of next week. Winner stays in the hunt, loser writes their year off. Few would argue which team's heights have been higher, but we have to lie in the bed we've made for ourselves.

[junk 342]

We have to win three games in arow to make the 8, perhaps we were punching above our weight earlier on in the season.Maybe we need to ruck Tom and Co. and keep Gawn at FF. Still can't believe how the Pies and Dons toyed wilth the Kangas yet we managed to lose.

[Watts2Hogan 56]

10 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Also, can I just say, I would hope for a BIG turnout by our members/supporters next week. 

All well and good for us to sit here put it all on the players whilst wallowing in crapulence ; we ought to get down there and make some bloody noise. We still have a shot at this and I'd be so disappointed if a half-arsed crowd showed up. I read a comment earlier re; the club's poor image - well at the very least we can do our bit to make it hard as possible for the Anits!

I'll be there with bells on my balls, knuckle dusters on and a lungful of barracking for one last roll of the dice! 

Second this. Chance of a big crowd given the Saints have a sniff. This is not a game to give up on or suddenly have something better to do. When we turn up we're loud and worth another goal or two I reckon. With decent weather 60,000 would be a pass mark. We must surpass their level of support at the G on the day.

[monoccular 16,513]

11 hours ago, america de cali said:

On the replay it looked worse than what it is. May even have missed or just a scraping blow. No reaction from the GWS player.

Moloney got two weeks for missing Bartel so.............

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9 hours ago, praha said:

ANB is now firmly among the best. His pressure acts are elite and he doesn't go missing like Garlett does, who is either "on" or can't get a kick.

Hmm. 17 disposals? And how many of those reached their intended target? His D.E. is only just above 50%.

The knock on him was always that he was a bang-it-on-the-boot player, and that's still pretty much the case. Yes, he gets it, but he's just not damaging (or reliable), and he was one who constantly led to chains of possession breaking down.

Happy to play him, he's still young, but if ever wants to become more than an average player, he needs to sort out his disposal. Fingers crossed.

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1 hour ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Also, can I just say, I would hope for a BIG turnout by our members/supporters next week. 

All well and good for us to sit here put it all on the players whilst wallowing in crapulence ; we ought to get down there and make some bloody noise. We still have a shot at this and I'd be so disappointed if a half-arsed crowd showed up. I read a comment earlier re; the club's poor image - well at the very least we can do our bit to make it hard as possible for the Anits!

I'll be there with bells on my balls, knuckle dusters on and a lungful of barracking for one last roll of the dice! 

We 

will

lose

[—coach— 3,473]

39 minutes ago, Watts2Hogan said:

Second this. Chance of a big crowd given the Saints have a sniff. This is not a game to give up on or suddenly have something better to do. When we turn up we're loud and worth another goal or two I reckon. With decent weather 60,000 would be a pass mark. We must surpass their level of support at the G on the day.

No way we will get 60k, saints largest ever home and away crowd is 72k against collingwood in a season where collingwood were near the top of the ladder (3rd) and saints were competitive (6th).

If we got 50k that would be massive, but I reckon it will be more like 42k

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45 minutes ago, Watts2Hogan said:

Second this. Chance of a big crowd given the Saints have a sniff. This is not a game to give up on or suddenly have something better to do. When we turn up we're loud and worth another goal or two I reckon. With decent weather 60,000 would be a pass mark. We must surpass their level of support at the G on the day.

The way the dees have been playing and are likely to play this weekend I'd be surprised to see more than about 24,000

[Garbo 1,368]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

One of which was when they very convincingly beat us...

We played our home game against them at Etihad last year so make that only 2 times

[Deemented Are Go! 3,643]

5 minutes ago, Diamond said:

We 

will

lose

You must be a deeply virulent and desperately lonely person. 

[Coq au vin 754]

Yep

I'm

a

Demons supporter 

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[titan_uranus 22,918]

3 hours ago, dees-picable said:

Saw the Saints beat WCE today. They are a seriously skilled, well drilled, enthusiastic and quick team. We will need to improve markedly to beat this unit.

So skilled, well drilled, enthusiastic and quick that they are below us on the ladder?

They beat West Coast. Whose only two wins in the last 5 weeks have been against Brisbane and Fremantle (both at home).

And they trailed for most of the game.

Whilst we will lose if we play like we did against GWS, let's not turn this into something it's not.

St Kilda is a middle-of-the-road side and, like we showed in Round 1, we are better than them. The game is in our hands, not theirs. If we play anywhere near our best we will beat them.

Edited August 6, 2017 by titan_uranus

[Watts2Hogan 56]

56 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

No way we will get 60k, saints largest ever home and away crowd is 72k against collingwood in a season where collingwood were near the top of the ladder (3rd) and saints were competitive (6th).

If we got 50k that would be massive, but I reckon it will be more like 42k

72,114 is our highest home crowd against them in '65. Imperative we turn up and support the team. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by Watts2Hogan
wrong year

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12 minutes ago, Watts2Hogan said:

72,114 is our highest home crowd against them in '66. Imperative we turn up and support the team. 

Source?

Round 1 that year we had 64,934 and round 12 15,093 according to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_VFL_season

 

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29 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

St Kilda is a middle-of-the-road side and, like we showed in Round 1, we are better than them. The game is in our hands, not theirs. If we play anywhere near our best we will beat them.

Round 1 is irrelevant at this point, barely worth the comparison.

Look at our form over the last 6 weeks. We've chalked up 4 losses and 2 wins against the likes of Carlton and Port -- a team yet to beat anyone in the top 8. That's where we're at going into the next match.

Edited August 6, 2017 by SaberFang

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8 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

It has nothing to do with form. It is to do with having some minimum level of expected effort and application. Watts was fumbly in his first game back but his work ethic was good. Last week he was still lacking touch but his effort was not great. Watts first half this week was well below any acceptable level of intensity that an example must be made regardless of whether he gained some touch when he finally got his first disposal in the third quarter. He does not need to be rugged or tough he does need to work hard without the ball and when they have the ball. 

that game against Collingwood was all about his gut running and effort. I thought he'd finally transformed.

He was jogging at times again as Giants players went past him. 

[Watts2Hogan 56]

17 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

Source?

Round 1 that year we had 64,934 and round 12 15,093 according to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_VFL_season

 

Typo, QB 1965. http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1965/111519650614.html

Match report, let's just say it all went downhill from then.https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19650615&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

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7 minutes ago, Watts2Hogan said:

Typo, QB 1965. http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1965/111519650614.html

Match report, let's just say it all went downhill from then.https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19650615&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

What really stands out is the kicks to handball stats! 185 kicks to 18 handballs, my how the game has changed!!!

Still think we will only get 42k to the game this weekend tops!

[GoD's67 111]

Outs:

Melksham susp Pedersen & Hunt (rested, hasn't looked himself since knocked himself out against Crows), or Salem if injured

In

Hannan. Weideman & Wagner (speed)

[mattjm 151]

2 hours ago, Watts2Hogan said:

Second this. Chance of a big crowd given the Saints have a sniff. This is not a game to give up on or suddenly have something better to do. When we turn up we're loud and worth another goal or two I reckon. With decent weather 60,000 would be a pass mark. We must surpass their level of support at the G on the day.

60,000 will never happen