2 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Has anyone actually seen Steven May play? 

Stef Martin has, up close!

Would we be better chasing father son  Darcy Moore?

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Would we be better chasing father son  Darcy Moore?

Not sure Peter would put in a good word for us

Wasn't May in the grand final sprint last year? From memory he finished ahead of our own Jayden Hunt. 

Edit: he was pipped by Hunt on the line but was substantially quicker over the first 20-30 m. See for yourself here. Definitelye no slow coach. 

 

Edited September 27, 20186 yr by leucopogon

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Not sure Peter would put in a good word for us

Beeb that was a very different MFC

Anyone else worried about recruiting May?  Everyone says he is proven but I don't think you are really proven until you have played for a decent side and have played in pressure situations - big crowds.  May has done neither.

I'm not in favor of May, unless he comes as a free agent next year. I just don't see that any potential upside is that much greater in what we already have in OMac and Frost, in fact if you track their careers at the same point OMac is equal too or better than May and May only kicked on from where OMac is now (so with another pre-season OMac will be even closer to where May is now).

May has never played more than 20 games in a season, and for all those saying that we get big bags kicked on our defenders, Reiwoldt kicked 10, Kennedy 5 and a few big forwards kicked 4 against the Suns with May in the team. Yes I know they were easy to score against, but clearly May still wasn't the gorilla tamer people want. His best roles have been when he's had a the freedom to go and mark the ball, but that's what we've got Lever for. 

 

 

Priority No.1 signing this guy. Forget that he is not 200cm. May is a hard-as-nails, quick, nicely skilled fullback with more than a touch of the ‘unsociable’ about him. The Suns didn’t make him captain for no reason.

If we’re going to seriously threaten for the pennant supporters need to let go of the idea that a combo of Frost and Oscar in the key defensive posts is going to get us there. It isn’t. 

I suspect Frost may be off to his third club if we succeed in bringing May in. The Suns could definitely use him if they lose their best defender to us.

 

43 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

 

Priority No.1 signing this guy. Forget that he is not 200cm. May is a hard-as-nails, quick, nicely skilled fullback with more than a touch of the ‘unsociable’ about him. The Suns didn’t make him captain for no reason.

If we’re going to seriously threaten for the pennant supporters need to let go of the idea that a combo of Frost and Oscar in the key defensive posts is going to get us there. It isn’t. 

I suspect Frost may be off to his third club if we succeed in bringing May in. The Suns could definitely use him if they lose their best defender to us.

 

All I can hear is gongs and wa-taaaaaa and kung fu sound effects 

its all very distracting Bruce

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

Anyone else worried about recruiting May?  Everyone says he is proven but I don't think you are really proven until you have played for a decent side and have played in pressure situations - big crowds.  May has done neither.

Why did Hawthorn recruit Frawley? He'd done neither. He was recruited on his body of work as a defender and ended up being crucial to their finals campaign to win a premiership. 

and then you've got Lynden Dunn who would be a walk up start to take Kennedy if he was fit for a grand final

No defender for a bottom team gets the opportunity to prove themselves until their team gets back to finals. Doesn't mean they're not capable of thriving. It's a calculated risk you take.

Edited September 27, 20186 yr by johndemonic

Jake Lever (AFL Tonight) seemed extremely enthusiastic about the prospect of playing alongside May.  Almost as if he knows something that we don't.

Could we get May while keeping Hogan?

2 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Could we get May while keeping Hogan?

Very unlikely scenario. To get May we need to trump what Collingwood have to offer the Suns. Without the booty of a Hogan trade we don’t have much. 

4 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Very unlikely scenario. To get May we need to trump what Collingwood have to offer the Suns. Without the booty of a Hogan trade we don’t have much. 

Not really true at all. If May nominated us then Collingwood is irrelevant 

15 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Not really true at all. If May nominated us then Collingwood is irrelevant 

Not correct in this case. May is under contract until end of 2019. If the Suns don’t like what Melbourne (or Collingwood) offer in trade they have the option of holding the player for another year then getting in all likelihood Band1 FA compo for him at the end of 2019. They will be telling May “look after us or we will hold you to your contract.” No way they are letting him go for anything less than a first round pick.

Edited September 27, 20186 yr by EnterTheDragon

On 9/26/2018 at 7:36 PM, Bonkers said:

Whilst Omac has improved and has become dependable to a certain extent, I think it's debatable if he's ever going to be a quality lock down defender against the bigger tall forwards. Ben Brown, Hawkins, Buddy, Kennedy all get a hold of him on a lead or in a one on one too often, hence why Frost became so important to us during the latter part of the year due to his size and speed.

I think people are kidding themselves to assume May wouldn't improve the side. He is definitely an upgrade on OMac. When Lever comes back into the side our backline should be sorted for around 5 years with Lever and May at FB and CHB respectively with either OMac or Frost playing alongside them. 

Collingwood and Hawthorn are chasing him if you believe the rumours and they are top 4 rivals. They are both seeking a replacement for Dunn and Frawley respectively. If we obtain May we weaken their future prospects and improve ours in the process by picking up May. If we can get May for a mid first rounder or less you'd be pretty happy. There aren't too many other KPD options out there to improve our backline at the moment and he would definitely help reduce the bleeding that's been happening when we aren't controlling the midfield on our off days.

Agree with this, it seems logical and May has room to develop and blend his skills to the needs of our team, providing that he trains hard, works hard, and recognises our impressive player chains downfield. To me, May might become a similar Demon backman to Peter Rhode, moderately mobile, very tough, always going for the ball, a good deliverer and feeder for teammates, and a protectionist that stays on his feet for incoming gorillas and Filth-esque blowflies out to get on some under-the-counter brown paper bag provident fund on a regular basis in the car that occupies Eddie's parking space. Frosty, Lever, Hibberd, Nev, possibly Salem and May has a ring to it - just send OMac forward if he can develop some speed running. Then allow Max and Preuss to drop back, as well, on those occasions when they feel it might be necessary. 

36 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Not correct in this case. May is under contract until end of 2019. If the Suns don’t like what Melbourne (or Collingwood) offer in trade they have the option of holding the player for another year then getting in all likelihood Band1 FA compo for him at the end of 2019. They will be telling May “look after us or we will hold you to your contract.” No way they are letting him go for anything less than a first round pick.

So reiterating what I said, Collingwood has no relevance if May doesn’t nominate them 

8 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

So reiterating what I said, Collingwood has no relevance if May doesn’t nominate them 

That’s not what you said. You said Collingwood has no relevance if May nominates Melbourne.

I then explained why you’re wrong.

The Suns will have a say in where May goes. Just to reiterate.

Edited September 27, 20186 yr by EnterTheDragon

1 hour ago, EnterTheDragon said:

That’s not what you said. You said Collingwood has no relevance if May nominates Melbourne.

I then explained why you’re wrong.

The Suns will have a say in where May goes. Just to reiterate.

You can’t trade someone without player consent. So if he wants to go to Melbourne, they can’t trade him to Collingwood unless he agrees. They can only hold him at Gold Coast 

3 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

Jake Lever (AFL Tonight) seemed extremely enthusiastic about the prospect of playing alongside May.  Almost as if he knows something that we don't.

De Stoop and Tom Morris also touched on what May might be seeking in terms of dollars and length of contract from GCS on AFL Tonight. Morris stated around 800k-900k or potentially more per year for 6 years. 

I’m curious, does anyone think he’s worth that much?

18 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

De Stoop and Tom Morris also touched on what May might be seeking in terms of dollars and length of contract from GCS on AFL Tonight. Morris stated around 800k-900k or potentially more per year for 6 years. 

I’m curious, does anyone think he’s worth that much?

I say not 

53 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

De Stoop and Tom Morris also touched on what May might be seeking in terms of dollars and length of contract from GCS on AFL Tonight. Morris stated around 800k-900k or potentially more per year for 6 years. 

I’m curious, does anyone think he’s worth that much?

I say yes.

What’s a quality fullback worth to a side that hasn’t won daytime silverware since 1964?

$800k sounds about right to me.

37 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

I say yes.

What’s a quality fullback worth to a side that hasn’t won daytime silverware since 1964?

$800k sounds about right to me.

I'm not going to say he ain't a quality fullback, but i don't think Steven May is the be all and end all. Let's not forget Oscar was one of our better players while Lever was in the side. Now we are chasing May who has played around [censored] all his life. It's easy to look good when your teammates are all 20 years old, undersized and still learning the craft. Yes he would basically take over Hogan's wage, but Hogan actually earned his wage.

6 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

De Stoop and Tom Morris also touched on what May might be seeking in terms of dollars and length of contract from GCS on AFL Tonight. Morris stated around 800k-900k or potentially more per year for 6 years. 

I’m curious, does anyone think he’s worth that much?

No.

May will be 27 before the start of next season. Lever is on $750,000. He fits nicely, he’s no superstar, but for the right price.

Early pick from hogan trade(if it happens) say pick 6. For may, kk and the suns late first round pick the got from west coast currently 18. 

Do we win that or the suns?? I’m really not sure about may.