Northern Blues v Casey Demons

[Satyriconhome 10,716]

The Gus head knock was a drive by, more of a glancing blow, not even a free kick

Nobody even politely knocking on the door at the moment

[The heart beats true 18,110]

It's time now. He has a life to live after all this.

[billyblanks29 184]

Um. How many hits before they make him wear a helmet? Seems an obvious solution.

[old dee 23,781]

Just now, billyblanks29 said:

Um. How many hits before they make him wear a helmet? Seems an obvious solution.

Helmets do not prevent concussion.

 

[billyblanks29 184]

Surely they reduce the severity though? That's like saying bike helmets do nothing.

[Little Richard 6,262]

This comes up often - the helmet won't help because the concussion is caused by the brain bouncing around inside the skull. Have I got that right?

[Ted Lasso 19,285]

I reckon we just need to give gus some time off now, Health has got to come first 

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

This is the worst news of the year. Freo Hawks be damned. It's getting silly now. If he's really getting hurt from minor blows then he's gotta go. Rest of year at least.

[Nasher 33,607]

4 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

Surely they reduce the severity though? That's like saying bike helmets do nothing.

It's not like saying that.  The bike helmet is to stop your brain from falling out when you splatter on to the hard road at force.  

The same forces of inertia apply to your brain whether wearing a helmet or not.  You're less likely to suffer a laceration or a broken skull with a helmet on, but your brain still bounces around in there the same as it would if you weren't wearing it, which is what a concussion is.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

7 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

Surely they reduce the severity though? That's like saying bike helmets do nothing.

No, it doesn't stop your brain rattling around in your head.

[Demon Disciple 12,064]

Unfortunately for Gus, his previous concussion appear to have caused a residual effect, whereby any knock near the head is having more of an affect than it normally would.

Maybe not career ending, but definitely threatening.

He needs to take the rest of the year off, no contact sport whatsoever. If he is unable to get back to a level where his head can take some form of impact, then for the betterment of his life, he should retire.

[ignition. 1,463]

For Brayshaw's long term health and piece of mind, it's time he's rested for an extended period of time (e.g. 2 - 3 months).

The club (I.M.O) already do a fantastic job when dealing with concussion. I like their conservative approach for what is currently a grey area.

Considering he's a big part of our future, what's wrong with a few months? Let the physical trauma placed onto the brain fully heal. It shouldn't be any different for someone being out for 6 - 8 weeks with a knee. I'd rather that than have the poor bloke considering retirement the next time he cops a knock.

 

[old dee 23,781]

2 minutes ago, ignition. said:

For Brayshaw's long term health and piece of mind, it's time he's rested for an extended period of time (e.g. 2 - 3 months).

The club (I.M.O) already do a fantastic job when dealing with concussion. I like their conservative approach for what is currently a grey area.

Considering he's a big part of our future, what's wrong with a few months? Let the physical trauma placed onto the brain fully heal. It shouldn't be any different for someone being out for 6 - 8 weeks with a knee. I'd rather that than have the poor bloke considering retirement the next time he cops a knock.

 

He might already be at that point ignition.

[Gorgoroth 12,924]

Has it been confirmed as a concussion?

[ignition. 1,463]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

He might already be at that point ignition.

Yeah, wasn't the rumour going around after the last one? 

I hope not mate.

[Ted Lasso 19,285]

I'm hearing he's fine but they are taking no risks at all. 

He copped a hit and was a little groggy but no huge concern at this stage. 

[Young Blood 2,583]

Hoping he just got a minor knock and the club is being cautious.

One of the toughest young players I've ever seen. Will be really missed by the club if he has to sit out long term.

I think we should slow down a bit on the kid retiring if it is indeed another concussion. I too believe his health should come first before anything, but I am almost certain that Angus will try to do anything he can to keep his very young, promising career alive.

 

Edited May 14, 2017 by mongrel

[Grapeviney 9,712]

18 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Has it been confirmed as a concussion?

Exactly - not all head knocks lead to concussion. Some of the amateur guesswork on here is based on nothing more than uninformed speculation. 

I'll wait (with fingers crossed) for the club's assessment before hitting the panic button. 

[Nasher 33,607]

1 minute ago, mongrel said:

One of the toughest young players I've ever seen. Will be really missed by the club if he has to sit out long term.

I think we should slow down a bit on the kid retiring. I too believe his health should come first before anything, but I am almost certain that Angus will try to do anything he can to keep his very young career alive.

 

This conversation has happened every time mongrel - everyone instantly turns in to an expert on concussion and makes the decision for him to retire.  It's getting very tedious.  It hasn't even been confirmed as concussion yet!

[old dee 23,781]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

This conversation has happened every time mongrel - everyone instantly turns in to an expert on concussion and makes the decision for him to retire.  It's getting very tedious.  It hasn't even been confirmed as concussion yet!

If it keeps happening Nasher the decision will not be his and surely you don't think all these knocks are having no effect.

[brendan 3,434]

So any news on the game?

[Redbeard 497]

Anyone at the game able to see if he's sitting with the bench now in a tracksuit or is he still down with the doc?

[old dee 23,781]

2 minutes ago, brendan said:

So any news on the game?

I am struggling to care brendan

[Little Richard 6,262]

11 minutes ago, Abe said:

I'm hearing he's fine but they are taking no risks at all. 

He copped a hit and was a little groggy but no huge concern at this stage. 

I reckon any head knocks Gus cops at this stage are a pretty big concern.

[Bang Na Demon 165]

Northern Blues 8.9 Casey 1.6 - 7 minutes into the third quarter