Are Weed, Pedo, Smith & current VFL Prospects enough in Fwd Line?

[Wolfmother 182]

Sam Reid is gettable for 650k a year in salary... 

We need to start using free agency for decent players, we still seem to give up draft picks for everyone 

[Wells 11 4,704]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I wouldn't write him off yet Fitz.

There is a lot physical and mental maturing to come.

Another year before any reasonable Judgement can be made.

Good comment. I havent made my mind up yet either but gut instinct is saying  he could well be a bust. Hope to be wrong.

[Engorged Onion 9,262]

3 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Good comment. I havent made my mind up yet either but gut instinct is saying  he could well be a bust. Hope to be wrong.

Tell me about the 'gut' as my 'gut' is very different - what do you see that doesn't wash?

[Wells 11 4,704]

Just now, Danelska said:

Tell me about the 'gut' as my 'gut' is very different - what do you see that doesn't wash?

I think he looks like he can take a mark. Yes he's getting pushed aside at the moment but he may improve with size. Its the lack of intensity after the contest that's worrying me. Maybe that improves too....hope so. But I question if he's going to be too one dimensional. 

[Little Goffy 12,565]

I'm expecting something a bit like Matthew Lloyd's 1996 from Weed this year.

A bunch of mostly 'meh', dropped repeatedly, and maybe one massive impressive game to give us all a bit of confidence for the future.

There's no denying that his last couple of AFL games were a bit... underwhelming. In difficult circumstances for a young key forward, for sure.

[spirit of norm smith 12,904]

Dees should offer Peter Wright (suns) a 6 year deal. Perfect for us. 200cm fwd who can ruck.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Weed is 2-3 years away from being useful at the top level.

How useful ? No idea yet. 

Needs time etc etc.

Such rush to judgement, possibly borne out of our frustrating luck.

Id be sniffling around though

[buck_nekkid 5,482]

Forward line of:

Garlett.     Weideman.      Petracca

Kent.         Hogan.           Watts

On potential, that is something special.  However, there are reasons right now why each and every one of those positions is not delivering:

Hogan - family circumstances

Weideman - still developing, probably 12 months early to expect too much

Watts - being played out of position in the ruck

Kent - is this attitude?  Reports from the VFL not so promising

Petracca - hasn't 'broken out' yet, but I think could even play full forward for us today

Garlett is probably the only one who is up to scratch at the moment.

We can sub any of these players worth others (eg, Hannan), for similar results.

We have the makings of excellence on all lines, they are young (often the youngest team of the round), and haven't played to their group potential.  If we could snare a 200+forward ruck that didn't have a [censored] tickler moustache and could deliver of course we would.  But not too many of them are lying around for under a million bucks a season.

I think the Weed will really arrive - but expect it will be in 2018.

 

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,876]

15 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

What happened to Huelett? 

On the Casey teams he's been named in defense, or maybe I read it wrong....

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

24 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

On the Casey teams he's been named in defense, or maybe I read it wrong....

He picked up a hip injury after Xmas, put him back, hasn't managed a full pre season yet, teaching him defence

[Stingray 157]

Just to Segway back to the title for a second - great to see pedo back he seems like such a legend with the attitude you'd want in every player. Love to see him kick a bag today!

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-04-28/pedersen-earns-his-place-in-side

[leave it to deever 15,336]

18 hours ago, DominatrixTyson said:

 

Early to discuss this I know, but if Weed is 2 years away from holding down a spot, Pedo near retirement and the rest as Potentials, Does the club need to look at an established 3rd tall for 2018? Do we need to look at the Patton/Wright/Lynch trend of a 200cm athletic forward and move Watts to half forward and Hogan at Ff or Chf with a new recruit? Or does the club need to recruit a specialist sharp shooting 3rd tall and persist with Hogan/Watts until Weid is ready?

I know they dont grow on trees but injuries, suspensions and personal events have really left the forward line unsettled and im curious as to whether you see the current injury free forward line as the one going forward ?

 

 

Fair observation.

Great sides have depth to their forward lines and while ours is great with the advancement of Watts and the maturing Hogan, another veteran of around 25 years and 100 games would be handy. I have faith in Weids but he may be 2 years away before becoming a very good frwd.

 

[junk 342]

Pedo rucked well v ESS,but not consistent to be a forward. Weed needs to be rotated from 1sts and 2nds, Smith,Keilty,White  need a bit of experience in the seniors.

[MadAsHell 4,088]

Just had a read of this thread.

One option for a mature forward to compliment Hogan & Watts next year while Weid continues to develop who is good in the air and would also be able to put on pressure when the ball hits the ground is already on our list.

..... Colin Garland!

Fact of the matter is that he's contracted for 2018 and with Tommy & Oscar Mc, Frost and the emergence of Joel Smith and Wagner, I think we all know Col's days in defence are over.

I hope the club tries and turns him into a forward in 2018 for his own sake. No point having him 6th in line for tall defenders when you could try him in a position he was initially drafted for where we lack some depth. Worst case scenario it doesn't work and we delist him at the end of 2018 anyway.

Food for thought.

[monoccular 16,064]

On 29/04/2017 at 7:43 PM, Little Goffy said:

I'm expecting something a bit like Matthew Lloyd's 1996 from Weed this year.

A bunch of mostly 'meh', dropped repeatedly, and maybe one massive impressive game to give us all a bit of confidence for the future.

There's no denying that his last couple of AFL games were a bit... underwhelming. In difficult circumstances for a young key forward, for sure.

Since IDCAD about Essendon, remind us of Lloyd's 1996?   How many goals, how many games, had he mastered the dive yet?

1 hour ago, MadAsHell said:

Just had a read of this thread.

One option for a mature forward to compliment Hogan & Watts next year while Weid continues to develop who is good in the air and would also be able to put on pressure when the ball hits the ground is already on our list.

..... Colin Garland!

Fact of the matter is that he's contracted for 2018 and with Tommy & Oscar Mc, Frost and the emergence of Joel Smith and Wagner, I think we all know Col's days in defence are over.

I hope the club tries and turns him into a forward in 2018 for his own sake. No point having him 6th in line for tall defenders when you could try him in a position he was initially drafted for where we lack some depth. Worst case scenario it doesn't work and we delist him at the end of 2018 anyway.

Food for thought.

Interesting thoughts.

If I remember correctly he was recruited as a forward, though has played mainly back -- very notable exception the surprise win over EssenDrug at Docklands ?2007?

Firstly he has to recover enough to play at all; then the  coaching challenge of turning him into a forward.   At 191 cm surely not nearly big enough to be a forward / ruck relief though, which is what we need (though Pedo showed he can at the weekend; can he produce consistently enough?)

Edited May 2, 2017 by monoccular