Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[Wiseblood 24,637]

29 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Will apparently request a trade as early as today to the Dees.

Good to see you still around @dazzledavey36! 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Crows have short memories. We were happy to trade Scott Thompson to them for just a first round pick when he was desperate to go home. We did it early in trade week too if I remember correctly, and we did it with minimal fuss. 

They would do well to treat Lever the same way. 

[deebug 1,754]

11 minutes ago, Nasher said:

They're losing a 21 year old gun, a player already touted as their next captain. I don't think they'll get their two first rounders but calling them greedy for that being their opening position is ridiculous. He was never going to come cheaply and as we all know, draft picks are a gamble.

What would you be asking for if a 21 year old Jack Viney had said "I want to move to SA"?

Ok then give them two first rounders.

[Nasher 33,617]

Just now, deebug said:

Ok then give them two first rounders.

You have a comprehension problem. Thanks for the discussion.

[Lucifers Hero 40,426]

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Crows have short memories. We were happy to trade Scott Thompson to them for just a first round pick when he was desperate to go home. We did it early in trade week too if I remember correctly, and we did it with minimal fuss. 

They would do well to treat Lever the same way. 

We are not known for playing hardball when it comes to trades.  I like that we play fair but many other clubs don't.

A bit rich of Adelaide to not pay the price for Gibbs last year.  And now dig their heels in when the trade is the other way.  Adelaide are stubborn not as bad as Ess stubborn but getting close.

With Coll seemingly wanting to offer Adelaide more than us (which I think is just posturing with little intent, if even true) may force our hand to trade more value than we would like.  I guess it may come down to whether we have other trades rely on the Lever being done early.  If not we can wait and see who blinks first.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[Roger Mellie 4,145]

Same old story - posturing.

Adelaide demand 2 first picks and declare they want to deal with Pies (or whoever). Lever's manager insists Melbourne. Deal gets done for first and second picks early if Adelaide need the picks for another trade, or they act like tossers (Essendon style)  and hold out to the last minute of trade week, or AFL 'mediators' step in and tell them the deal's fair and grow TF up.

PS. Don't usually pay much notice of what Lloydy says but he said this morning that 10 and 27 seemed fair.

[binman 44,169]

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

 

What would you be asking for if a 21 year old Jack Viney had said "I want to move to SA"?

Some counselling for jack

[Nasher 33,617]

Just now, binman said:

Some counselling for jack

Yep, shocking example but it was the best I could manage on such short notice ?

[brendan 3,439]

Lol at Collingwood coming late, won’t mean jack if lever nominates us, and Adelaide digging in there heals about 2 firsts is laughable considering how they carried on last trade period 

[deebug 1,754]

He maybe a gun but this years and next years first draft picks is way too much for one player, we still need to fill holes in the mid field. 

[deebug 1,754]

Do the filth have two first rounders to offer them?

[Clintosaurus 7,896]

3 minutes ago, deebug said:

Do the filth have two first rounders to offer them?

Not this year - maybe this and next but they don't have a second this year either.

He will get to the club he nominates. If it's us then great. If not, oh well.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Clintosaurus

[beelzebub 23,384]

28 minutes ago, Nasher said:

They're losing a 21 year old gun, a player already touted as their next captain. I don't think they'll get their two first rounders but calling them greedy for that being their opening position is ridiculous. He was never going to come cheaply and as we all know, draft picks are a gamble.

What would you be asking for if a 21 year old Jack Viney had said "I want to move to SA"?

Viney IS a captain.

Viney's position is far more front and centre ( literally ) 

If we were asking for Sloane it would be a different story. We aren't.

Your analogy is wrong Nasher.

Even 10 and 27 with no change is a bit steep. Crows are notoriously aholes at trades. 

[deebug 1,754]

Just now, Clintosaurus said:

Not this year - maybe this and next but they don't have a second this year either.

Ok thanks, just have to wait and see where he wants to land.

[jackaub 1,402]

On what i have seen of lever 1 pick should be enough

Dees should play hardball

If lever really wants to come we dont need to pay overs

[deebug 1,754]

1 minute ago, jackaub said:

On what i have seen of lever 1 pick should be enough

Dees should play hardball

If lever really wants to come we dont need to pay overs

I thought 10 would be way then enough for him.

[SFebes 4,884]

38 minutes ago, Nasher said:

They're losing a 21 year old gun, a player already touted as their next captain. I don't think they'll get their two first rounders but calling them greedy for that being their opening position is ridiculous. He was never going to come cheaply and as we all know, draft picks are a gamble.

What would you be asking for if a 21 year old Jack Viney had said "I want to move to SA"?

Lol. Viney is a captain and a father son. Can't compare

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

10 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Not this year - maybe this and next but they don't have a second this year either.

He will get to the club he nominates. If it's us then great. If not, oh well.

Say it's not us, what's our plan B? I can't think of anyone else.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Demon77

[Clintosaurus 7,896]

2 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Say it's not us, what's our plan B? I can't think of anyone else.

Not in the backline, but I'm guessing we are looking at other players and in active talks with players/managers/clubs.

[dino rover 714]

How did he play in the Gf?

[Deemented Are Go! 3,692]

8 minutes ago, dino rover said:

How did he play in the Gf?

Serviceable. See previous 5 pages .

[Older demon 2,795]

Note the rumour came from a Kane Cornes tweet. This year Kane has been incorrect, rude and insulting with his tweets. I still think Lever is worth 1 first round pick only but they sound like the new Essendon

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

1 hour ago, deebug said:

Ok then give them two first rounders.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Travis16

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

We have three tall defenders in the McDonald's and Frost (plus Hibberd and Jetta as stalwarts down back) and we are looking at giving up the farm for another?

Don't get me wrong, Lever is a gun but I'd much rather we go after another midfielder or simply use the draft picks in the draft.

[deebug 1,754]

There should be a rule only one first draft per player, and then it should be a second round if the need be but no player is worth two first round picks.