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Ins... Tyson Mckenna

Outs... Vince susp  Smith inj

Jetta t.mcd Mckenna

Salem o.mcd Melksham

Hunt viney Stretch

Petracca weideman Brayshaw

Garlett hogan Watts

Gawn Lewis Jones

tyson oliver anb hannan 

emerg. bugg harmes spencer

med/tall half backs cursed - Lamumba (ret); injured - m.white wagner j.smith garland hibberd. I thought we had the cover?

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Ins... Tyson Mckenna

Outs... Vince susp  Smith inj

Jetta t.mcd Mckenna

Salem o.mcd Melksham

Hunt viney Stretch

Petracca weideman Brayshaw

Garlett hogan Watts

Gawn Lewis Jones

tyson oliver anb hannan 

emerg. bugg harmes spencer

med/tall half backs cursed - Lamumba (ret); injured - m.white wagner j.smith garland hibberd. I thought we had the cover?

 

Please explain why you've decided to bring in McKenna

Posted
1 hour ago, Deestroy All said:

Apparently someone tweeted this morning that Hogan was on crutches. I can't find a single thing about it anywhere so I assume it's bs. Anyone know anything?

 

48 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Bull [censored]

Mahoney confirmed it in the article about Smith. 

Posted
16 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

In: Kent, Tyson

Out: J Smith (shoulder), Vince (suspended)

This should be the changes for the week.

Frustrating to have Bernie get rubbed out for a week after he played one of his better games in the backline, but we have adequate back up. He needs to work on the stupid reckless things he keeps getting in trouble for. I'm all for targeted aggression, but it needs to be in play. If you bump a bloke going for the ball like Melksham did on the weekend then he will second guess himself next time he goes for it. Whacking a bloke behind play gets you nothing but trouble.

Happy to have Tyson and Kent come back in. Both are best 22 and add something to the line up. Kent will add to our general speed and ball movement as well as become another goal scoring option. Tyson adds in and under skill around the stoppages and can also drift forward to kick goals. We can send someone like Salem down back to cover the missing players short term, and then get Vince and Hibberd back to settle the team longer term.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Deestroy All said:

Apparently someone tweeted this morning that Hogan was on crutches. I can't find a single thing about it anywhere so I assume it's bs. Anyone know anything?

Maybe they were imaginary crutches.Otherwise it would melt the server here.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Hogan was on crutches - purely precautionary, guaranteed to play this week.

I'd like the tigers dr to look him over just in case.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Hogan was on crutches - purely precautionary, guaranteed to play this week.

Were they crutches or St K defenders still stuck under his armpits from the marks he took on Saturday?

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Posted
Just now, Moonshadow said:

Were they crutches or St K defenders still stuck under his armpits from the marks he took on Saturday?

Brown may be there, but Carlisle is still chasing his shadow around Etihad.

Posted

Im blaming Hogans ankle on Etihad.. [censored] it.

Btw i did see Hogan limping around in the last qtr so hopefully its nothing serious.

Posted
7 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

It's always best to view the game R&B and make your own observations as you have done. Stats can be deceiving, but without the luxury of watching it all again here's the Clanger stats for those you mentioned.....

Lewis 6 (1st)

Oscar 4 (equal 3rd with Trac, Melk & Nev)

Vince 3 (equal 4th with three others)

Jones 1 (equal 6th with five others, all on one only)

No player had Zero clangers on the day

 

6 hours ago, mo64 said:

Clanger stats are a poor measurement of performance. They only relate to disposals that directly end up in the hands of the opposition. Oliver had 5 clangers, which were all probably misdirected handballs under pressure. That happens often with mids. In the case of O Mac, It doesn't include his dropped marks, which were howlers, or missed spoil.

Mav Weller's 3 missed set shots for goal were the biggest clangers in the match, yet aren't registered as such.

Couldn't agree more on that front Mo. However, clangers aren't only limited to disposals that end up directly in the hands of the opposition. According to Wikipedia (yikes!) ....

The stat also includes....

  • Dropped marks or fumbles under no pressure , free kicks, 50 meter penalties and stepping over the line during a kick in.

IMO stats alone should never be used to judge an individual's relative performance, especially most publicly available stats. However, i have no doubt some selective "key"  non-public in-house (Champion stats) used in conjunction with viewing of the game (especially for review purposes) would be reasonably helpful in gaining an insight  on where or how a player is performing (or under-performing) relatively vs player/s who might be performing a similar role in a similar part of the ground. Obviously a task best left to the experts who have the knowledge and access to these resources at club level. I would love to be privy to some of these review methods and what goes on game day, and the days following, including their use for review Monday. I remember SEN interviewed a chap who does this at a particular club one time and it was very insightful.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Im blaming Hogans ankle on Etihad.. [censored] it.

Btw i did see Hogan limping around in the last qtr so hopefully its nothing serious.

There should be a "dislike" button!!! :wacko:

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If anyone is in any doubt that OMac is a weak link Goodwin himself explained how the Aints tried to isolate him at every opportunity. Whoever was on him would run back towards goals to put one on one pressure on Oscar.

expect it to happen more often if he plays. He needs another Demon to 'babysit' him in the backline which is what brother Tom did for much of the game. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

If anyone is in any doubt that OMac is a weak link Goodwin himself explained how the Aints tried to isolate him at every opportunity. Whoever was on him would run back towards goals to put one on one pressure on Oscar.

expect it to happen more often if he plays. He needs another Demon to 'babysit' him in the backline which is what brother Tom did for much of the game. 

Who takes his place JMc?

Posted
12 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Hogan was on crutches - purely precautionary, guaranteed to play this week.

Good news but hmmm....precautionary scans a week or so ago, now precautionary crutches, let hope it doesnt lead to a precautionary operation. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Who takes his place JMc?

I'd be happier with Frost in the backline over Oscar at the moment. I think Oscar has a long future in the backline, but needs to hone/perfect his craft at VFL level. I also think Frost is a better intercept/rebound defender.

Not sure how Frosty's toe is holding up at present.

Posted
11 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

 

However, clangers aren't only limited to disposals that end up directly in the hands of the opposition. According to Wikipedia (yikes!) ....

The stat also includes....

  • Dropped marks or fumbles under no pressure , free kicks, 50 meter penalties and stepping over the line during a kick in.

I

My point wasn't about clangers as such, anyone can get ahead of themselves and fumble a mark or two grab a ground ball. I was talking about out and out howlers, both Jones and Lewis both kicked the ball straight to Saints players. While OMac might extend himself a little more than he's capable of at the moment (although i actually love that he's not afraid to take the game on - even if he does make the odd mistake), he gets crucified more than anyone else (the new Watts). 

The calls for him to go back to Casey, really won't do much for him long term either, AFL listed big forwards and backs and normally significantly stronger (and better) than anything at a lower level so you want them learning to compete against the best, and take the odd 'clanger, mistake, howler' because the end result will be much better. I think it's much like the debate about starting Pedo over Weid, I think if were serious about not only making but winning finals we need the Weid up and going while Pedo is handy back up at best. 

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