DemonLad5 1,642 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Without 50/50s Rd1 Saints Etihad lossRd2 Carlton MCG winRd3 Geelong Etihad lossRd4 Freo MCG winRd5 Rich MCG winRd6 Essendon Etihad winRd 7 Hawks MCG lossRd8 Adel AO lossRd9 North MCG winRd10 Gold Coast Tregar winRd11 ByeRd12 Queens Bday winRd13 Bulldogs Etihad lossRd14 West Coast Away lossRd15 Swans MCG lossRd16 Carlton MCG winRd17 Adel Darwin lossRd18 Port MCG winRd19 North Tassy winRd20 GWS Manuka lossRd21 StKilda MCG winRd22 Brisbane MCG winRd23 Collingwood MCG win 13 wins, 9 losses
praha 11,268 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 18 hours ago, Petraccattack said: St Kilda 4? Carlton, Essendrug and Richmond with more than us? Is that a [censored] joke? TBH it's a bit deceiving. St Kilda has no real "blockbusters". We play two games in NT which reduces possibility of Melbourne-based night games. We also have ANZAC Day and Queens Birthday, both during primetime. Also, the fact Carlton, Richmond and Essendon only have 2 and we have 1 is fine with me. At least we're not getting 20 Friday night Carlton games.
praha 11,268 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 51 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said: Yep read that after I had posted very difficult period and will be very important for us to win Queens Birthday and at least 1 of those 3(6 day breaks) at least It's 2005 all over again. I remember we beat the Pies on QB, then had like 4x 6-day breaks in a row after that and it snowballed into a 7-game losing streak.
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, jnrmac said: Yeah we can. When was the last one we had? The Toiges have 13 in the past few seasons I heard Brendan Gale say... They wonder why some teams don't make money? It aint rocket science. What's that got to do with the Saints?
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Pates said: I don't think I've said this in previous years (been more pragmatic about it) but I'm pretty happy with this fixture. It's given us more prime time exposure (hopefully we'll make good on it), and I think it's pretty equitable in terms of the teams we play. I'm laughing about the tigers being unhappy about getting no Friday night fixtures. They don't deserve it, they've been spoonfed good slots for years now, back to the pack until you actually play decent footy. Plus they get the first two weeks on a Thursday, some Saturday nights as well as the ANZAC Eve game
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 It is a great draw from a winning perspective IMO. I would partially highlight the away games where we have probably been advantaged more than we should. Geelong away at Etihad rather than Kardinia Park NM away at Hobart rather than Etihad GWS away at Manuka rather than Spotless Carlton away at the MCG rather than Etihad Also, I don’t think the stats on 6-day breaks show it is that big a disadvantage, especially since it means a longer break on the other side.
Bring-Back-Powell 15,576 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Fat Tony said: It is a great draw from a winning perspective IMO. I would partially highlight the away games where we have probably been advantaged more than we should. Geelong away at Etihad rather than Kardinia Park NM away at Hobart rather than Etihad GWS away at Manuka rather than Spotless Carlton away at the MCG rather than Etihad GWS at Manuka are probably even more scarier than at Spotless. The other 3 games you listed, I agree with the advantage.
jnrmac 20,390 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 When it boils down to it the most important thing is who you are playing and having as few injuries as possible. Where you play, timeslots, breaks etc are other considerations but ultimately shouldn't determine whether you play finals or not. Who we play looks pretty good although you never know which teams are going to slide and which teams will outperform.
jnrmac 20,390 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Fat Tony said: Also, I don’t think the stats on 6-day breaks show it is that big a disadvantage, especially since it means a longer break on the other side. Yeah, nah 4 hours ago, jnrmac said: We have 3 x 6 day breaks in a row mid-season and on top of that, we have to travel for one and our opponents are having 10, 9 and 7 day breaks before playing us. That's pretty significant.
What 18,810 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, jnrmac said: We have 3 x 6 day breaks in a row mid-season and on top of that, we have to travel for one and our opponents are having 10, 9 and 7 day breaks before playing us. That's pretty significant. More than significant. it is a total farce. This is why I was saying the fixture is bad when you dig deep in to it.
Grapeviney 9,930 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 On 27/10/2016 at 2:16 PM, Petraccattack said: Terrible fixture,.., absolutely terrible On 27/10/2016 at 3:29 PM, Petraccattack said: We got robbed. On 27/10/2016 at 4:40 PM, Petraccattack said: But having thought about it more it really is a very good draw. 19 hours ago, Petraccattack said: Ok, having studied the fixture all day it will be a disaster if we dont play finals in 2017. There are no excuses anymore. 4 hours ago, Petraccattack said: it is a total farce. This is why I was saying the fixture is bad when you dig deep in to it. Nothing wrong with changing your mind, but in 24 hours you've had more positions on this than the Kama Sutra.
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,390 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 23 hours ago, A F said: I'd prefer St Kilda getting airtime. They won't have anywhere to hide when they get exposed by decent sides. I'm glad they're not being overrated by anyone other than their own supporters. I just looking forward to smashing the [censored] out of them at the G finally.
Adam The God 30,760 Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 10 hours ago, Grapeviney said: Nothing wrong with changing your mind, but in 24 hours you've had more positions on this than the Kama Sutra. HH/PA reminds me of one of my best mates. He's a floggy Carlton supporter, but he too spends his life back-pedalling on every opinion he ever has. It's hard to take him seriously a lot of the time.
Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 On 27 October 2016 at 9:24 AM, Grimes Times said: R1 V Saints changed to Sat 4.40 twilight . Someone said on SEN today that Jake Carlile's sister is getting married on that Saturday. I presume she'll invite all her brother's footy teammates! The fixture change might have stuffed Jake.
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 Pizzis me off that with two teams in Qld that we couldn't play one of them up here ffs. Oh well just have to hang onto the memory of the 70 point flogging we gave GC this season!
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 The Bulldogs last year resoundingly proved time and time again that the game is completely between the ears. Injuries, travel, 6 day breaks, mouth ulcers, etc etc. Many posts in this thread typify the soft underbelly of the modern day MFC supporter. It's really sad.
sue 9,280 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 48 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said: The Bulldogs last year resoundingly proved time and time again that the game is completely between the ears. Injuries, travel, 6 day breaks, mouth ulcers, etc etc. This thread typifies the soft underbelly of the modern day MFC supporter. It's really sad. i just love posts which assume that the attitudes of supporters have any relevance to what is between the ears of the players.
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 29, 2016 Posted October 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, sue said: i just love posts which assume that the attitudes of supporters have any relevance to what is between the ears of the players. ? Many posts in this thread typify the soft Melbourne supporter. Example : The Melbourne supporter that chooses to believe that certain nuances within a fixture will likely determine whether or not we make finals. And I simply said look at what the Bulldogs did last year. Anything is possible. It's ultimately down to mindset, i.e. between the ears. I'm not sure you understood my post.
binman 44,869 Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 45 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said: ? Many posts in this thread typify the soft Melbourne supporter. Example : The Melbourne supporter that chooses to believe that certain nuances within a fixture will likely determine whether or not we make finals. And I simply said look at what the Bulldogs did last year. Anything is possible. It's ultimately down to mindset, i.e. between the ears. I'm not sure you understood my post. Ironic post given you seemed to have completely misunderstood sue's post. Go figure
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 48 minutes ago, binman said: Ironic post given you seemed to have completely misunderstood sue's post. Go figure Obviously the attitudes of supporters have no relevance to what is "between the ears of the players". I'm making the point that there are lot of whinging supporters who for whatever reason, get caught up with '6 day break' issues and tend to use details like these as excuses for losses during the season. And the bulldogs showed this year that these fixturing details are ultimately non weight-bearing. Why is this so difficult...
jnrmac 20,390 Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said: The Bulldogs last year resoundingly proved time and time again that the game is completely between the ears. Injuries, travel, 6 day breaks, mouth ulcers, etc etc. Many posts in this thread typify the soft underbelly of the modern day MFC supporter. It's really sad. That's what happens with 10 years of conditioning
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said: Obviously the attitudes of supporters have no relevance to what is "between the ears of the players". I'm making the point that there are lot of whinging supporters who for whatever reason, get caught up with '6 day break' issues and tend to use details like these as excuses for losses during the season. And the bulldogs showed this year that these fixturing details are ultimately non weight-bearing. Why is this so difficult... I watched the Hogan interview following his extension again this morning. It's refreshing to hear he himself say that the 'mindset' of the group is the biggest influence that the Coaches have had this past season and made mention of the Dogs as an example. If we can keep a fit list, with the inclusion of three seasoned best 22 players and the natural progression of our young talent all coupled with the belief that Hogan spoke of, I think we're in for a cracking 2017 season. The fixture is a bloody good one and the players are managed around these small nuances such as longer and shorter periods between games. Also, I reckon Goodwin will be a fantastic coach - particularly on match day. That in itself should see us win those games we somehow manage to lose. Such excitement. I can't wait for next year.
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 41 minutes ago, McQueen said: I watched the Hogan interview following his extension again this morning. It's refreshing to hear he himself say that the 'mindset' of the group is the biggest influence that the Coaches have had this past season and made mention of the Dogs as an example. If we can keep a fit list, with the inclusion of three seasoned best 22 players and the natural progression of our young talent all coupled with the belief that Hogan spoke of, I think we're in for a cracking 2017 season. The fixture is a bloody good one and the players are managed around these small nuances such as longer and shorter periods between games. Also, I reckon Goodwin will be a fantastic coach - particularly on match day. That in itself should see us win those games we somehow manage to lose. Such excitement. I can't wait for next year. Oath. It's the little things that I imagine will have a significant say in regards to helping certain players reaching new levels over time. Something as little as Jordan Lewis being on the training track at pre-season. The fact that he is a MFC player now. He chose us because of our list. It's just yet another reason players like Jones, Viney, Petracca, Brayshaw etc will want impress even more coming into the year. You can feel the momentum. And it's certainly gathering speed.
Diamond_Jim 12,779 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Seems that the Saturday afternoon 3pm free to air broadcast may be sold to Pay TV in 2017. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/28/fewer-afl-games-to-be-screened-on-free-to-air-television-in-2017
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