18 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Annoyed about the timing -- we really need them to lose against Adelaide. Now they have an extra motivation to cause an upset. 

You think his teammates like him?

He was the captain during the whole drug saga, and his 'leadership' was a disgrace.

Good riddance.

I was immediately struck by the hypocrisy reading today that Tim Watson was all over protecting players' health in the debate over concussions: where was he in the debate about players' health throughout the EssenDrug saga?

 

1 minute ago, monoccular said:

I was immediately struck by the hypocrisy reading today that Tim Watson was all over protecting players' health in the debate over concussions: where was he in the debate about players' health throughout the EssenDrug saga?

 

Compromised....

Wow, the drugs must have finally worn off.

4 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I was immediately struck by the hypocrisy reading today that Tim Watson was all over protecting players' health in the debate over concussions: where was he in the debate about players' health throughout the EssenDrug saga?

Just like the AFL exec. Going hard on the easy targets and looking the other way the rest of the time.

Could be an admin role in Jobby's future! AFL football ops manager, after an apprenticeship as personal barista to Gil.

If he is sincere, he really has the potential, now that he has retired, to make a difference, but i cannot see it happening......

3 hours ago, biggestred said:

 So jobe has retired. 

Out of love with the game.

Reckons it feels like "his partner cheated on him"

No Jobe it was actually you that cheated and you were caught 

Gee we are all so sanctimonious about a person who stuck to his beliefs and wore the penalty to his detriment.

Leave him be and reflect on his football. He has been a bigger credit to the game than many of his harshest critics.

21 minutes ago, dimmy said:

Gee we are all so sanctimonious about a person who stuck to his beliefs and wore the penalty to his detriment.

Leave him be and reflect on his football. He has been a bigger credit to the game than many of his harshest critics.

His beliefs ? His lies, his bullshlt.

He's taken his penalty, as if he had a choice. 

Where's his admissions ? Guy's a drugcheat and a fraud. 

#wherescharlie

40 minutes ago, dimmy said:

Gee we are all so sanctimonious about a person who stuck to his beliefs and wore the penalty to his detriment.

Leave him be and reflect on his football. He has been a bigger credit to the game than many of his harshest critics.

I have always been suprised that Jab didn't stand up for his players back in 2012 during those first 12-15 weeks of the season. 

As Captain i am sure he was briefed as to what was happening, people keep saying Jab knew nothing of what was going on...Great Captain. 

You had  Players who were almost twice the size in the legs for half a season and nobody asked questions...

 

I take Jobe at his word when he says "he feels like his wife cheated on him". And have sympathy for his plight, loss and disenchantment. As someone who's (ex)wife did cheat on, sometime you can "know" but refuse to take it on. 

Time to move on. 

Good luck outside footy Jobe! 

Edited August 9, 20178 yr by PaulRB

1 hour ago, PaulRB said:

I take Jobe at his word when he says "he feels like his wife cheated on him". And have sympathy for his plight, loss and disenchantment. As someone who's (ex)wife did cheat on, sometime you can "know" but refuse to take it on. 

Time to move on. 

Good luck outside footy Jobe! 

With the emphasis on outside footy.

He was the captain, leader of a club that attempted to cheat the system, and he either

(i) knew exactly what was going on and failed to lead in his teammates' interest, or

(ii) should have questioned, in the interests of his fellow players' health, why they all grew suddenly bigger, stronger and then later got soft tissue injuries like never before, whilst using 'unknown substances' injected in secret locations.

Not a leader; not a victim (unless of his own delusion).

Good player 

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Good player 

Unfortunately we can never know if he was or if the drugs made him do it

What gall:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-10/hird-agrees-to-present-norm-smith-medal

4 minutes ago, sue said:

What gall:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-10/hird-agrees-to-present-norm-smith-medal

So typical of Gil......reward the cheat.

I find it offensive. 

Hird's "good bloke" genes must be something powerful to overcome landing the AFL in its biggest scandal in its history.

game in disrepute
bees d*ck from an entire team being suspended
swathe of sackings and resignations
fines galore
possibility of future health issues

... stacked up against:

good bloke

rest of the world sporting community will be puzzled if not outraged

the afl never wanted wada/asada oversight and only accepted it under political and financial gov pressure

they are still (unofficially) unaccepting and behaving like a petulant child

 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I find it offensive. 

!00% agree with you.

 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I find it offensive. 

 

This still stinks.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I find it offensive. 

You need to add" extremely " SWYL 

My ar## will shine in the afternoon sun......

We can't all be removed.......

SEN were all over the today - saying that they hope that Hird won't get booed when he gets up to present the meal, as it would deflate the day.  

They also said that he maybe should be welcomed back into the footy media FCS!!  

I guess Carey is there, and which is worse.....acceding to your whole team being drug guinea pigs in an uncontrolled, unregulated clinical trial, or glassing women?

Well, I WILL boo him then cheer the winner of the award.

He remains totally and unashamedly unrepentant.

 

I'm all for Hird presenting the Norm Smith medal given he is next in line to award the medal.  Time to let it go people.