2 hours ago, nutbean said:

no no - segwaying is acceptable...

derailing  - is when i call you an old codger and you call me a know nothing who can't add 2+2.

Is pedantry OK? If so, segwaying is acceptable if spelled segueing.  

I said earlier in this thread that something smells fishy and that's only more so now. 

If he had ongoing symptoms then that's fine, but 'gathering more information' doesn't sound legit to me. No reason why he couldn't join the rehab group for light running drills and be held out of any contact drills.

There are going to be a few picks between our last pick and the first rookie pick. So it isn't at all guaranteed that we'd get the same player. I'd like an answer before the draft, even if we pass on the pick.

1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said:

You don't like Barrett? 

. I think he likes Shakespeare better...

1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said:

You don't like Barrett? 

When you boil it down, it's all relative.

7 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

When you boil it down, it's all relative.

Very good WJ and it is only 21st Nov.

26 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

If he had ongoing symptoms then that's fine, but 'gathering information' doesn't sound legit to me. No reason why he couldn't join the rehab group for light running drills and be held out of any contact drills.

 

Absolutely. If his concussion issues are in fact that serious that he still can't even go out for a jog, with the team, then he probably should just steer clear of any contact sports for some time.

 

I mean I'm no expert, but come on...

Concussion aside, he has been nothing but a very ordinary player for us. The sooner he is off the list the better.

Segueing.

I wish him well. I like that he's a little different.

I think he's cooked, unfortunately.

Calling it

Damn. He has Verve !!

I wish he was fit and ready for this season because I think the new run and play on from the backline at all costs that was the Bulldog style this year will be emulated by all teams. Lubumba running out from the back pocket would work much better in a team plan where everyone is ready to run and make position forward of the ball carrier as well. In his first year he would run in circles looking for options from a static team with poor results obviously and not his fault. 

That said I personally am not convinced he has been at the club very often since last July. There was a cryptic MFC presser from Misson I think in July saying he was away from the club recuperating from his concussions and they hoped he would be back at some stage for training! To me that was code for he has disappeared but we hope he gives us a ring. I remember joking that he had taken off to Rio for the Olympics.

I think someone reported that he was at the best and fairest night in September and said he was over his problems but it seems things have changed. 

Gut feel is you won't be seeing him playing any time soon. 

 

If there's movement on the retirement front, no matter the circumstances, then given the upcoming draft etc., better sooner than later.

Clearly though, there's something going on, either physically with lingering symptoms, or in terms of his motivation to put himself out there again after what he's been through (serious concussion).

6 hours ago, Olgreybeard49 said:

Is pedantry OK? If so, segwaying is acceptable if spelled segueing.  

Didn't the inventor ride his Segway off a cliff? 

Surely he's finishing and the delay is part of some sort of financial negotiation on the back end of his contract.

If he is simply "seeking more information" after all this time - then he is battling some sort of concern about his long-term health.That's not the sort of mindset that will get him close to our top 22.

He really should be chafing at the bit now to get a footy in his hands.He needs to be passionate about his return to the game to make up for a lost season. All the signs are that he hasn't got the fire in his belly any more.

Mahoney and Co need to do the deal asap - to send him off as an excellent Collingwood player who's time at Melbourne was soured by injury.

As I recall he came to us on a 3-way deal which cost us Mitch Clark.Sad outcome at both ends!

 

18 hours ago, hoopla said:

Surely he's finishing and the delay is part of some sort of financial negotiation on the back end of his contract.

If he is simply "seeking more information" after all this time - then he is battling some sort of concern about his long-term health.That's not the sort of mindset that will get him close to our top 22.

He really should be chafing at the bit now to get a footy in his hands.He needs to be passionate about his return to the game to make up for a lost season. All the signs are that he hasn't got the fire in his belly any more.

Mahoney and Co need to do the deal asap - to send him off as an excellent Collingwood player who's time at Melbourne was soured by injury.

As I recall he came to us on a 3-way deal which cost us Mitch Clark.Sad outcome at both ends!

 

I agree fully.....do a deal like Yarram and the Tiges have done today....so we can move on....that's my opinion 

No offence to H.J, it is time for him to hang up his boots and that will give us a chance to recruit or upgrade someone else.

Hasn't final list lodgement passed 5 days ago? Tigers must be spewing!

Let's hope we don't have the same happen to us.

Just now, McQueen said:

Hasn't final list lodgement passed 5 days ago? Tigers must be spewing!

Let's hope we don't have the same happen to us.

I'm glad you mentioned this Steve and I would like clarification. I'm certain I heard on the radio today that Richmond could replace Yarran through the draft.

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I'm glad you mentioned this Steve and I would like clarification. I'm certain I heard on the radio today that Richmond could replace Yarran through the draft.

I have heard/read the same, surely you can't do that after final list lodgement, unless the AFL flops again

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

I have heard/read the same, surely you can't do that after final list lodgement, unless the AFL flops again

I honestly have no clue about such rules Saty but I'm sure someone will enlighten us.

2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I honestly have no clue about such rules Saty but I'm sure someone will enlighten us.

There are rules BBO?

I thought they made them up as they went along

45 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I'm glad you mentioned this Steve and I would like clarification. I'm certain I heard on the radio today that Richmond could replace Yarran through the draft.

I reckon the answer would be found on the Richmond fans forum, BBO.

I don't want to go there and trawl through the threads though because I'm far too intelligent.

27 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I reckon the answer would be found on the Richmond fans forum, BBO.

I don't want to go there and trawl through the threads though because I'm far too intelligent.

Fair enough! We'll send Saty then.

I'll save Saty the trouble and enlighten the rest of you guys :  From WJ's thread in the Goodwin Trade forum

• Saturday November 26 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins
• Sunday November 27, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes
• Monday Wednesday, November 30, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

So we have until next Wednesday to do a deal with H, if we want another player on our list.

Let's face it - he hasn't played or trained since middle of last year.  Has not started preseason.  So its very hard to see how he can get fitness to play enough games in 2017 to trigger the contract extension for the following year. So his days as a senior player are numbered. 

Edited November 22, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

On 21/11/2016 at 1:20 PM, beelzebub said:

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2+2=

 

 

On 21/11/2016 at 2:15 PM, nutbean said:

Damn you  - I didn't know that maths problems were a prerequisite to coming onto Demonland....

Especially such advanced mathematical concepts. 

On 21/11/2016 at 4:49 PM, Olgreybeard49 said:

Is pedantry OK? If so, segwaying is acceptable if spelled segueing.  

Pedantry is always fine. Should be required. 

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

There are rules BBO?

I thought they made them up as they went along

Youve struck gold Saty, this is inarguable !!

No rules rules Ausie rules !!