21 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

A top 18 pick for Tuohy LOL

This sort of evens out the charity trade they got for Dangerfield.

Fark Geelong.

Yeah, Geelong are going nowhere. If Dangerfield doesn't win the Brownlow again, they won't get near the top 4. Tuohy is a half-decent role player, but Hibberd is a better bet. 

I look forward to 2-3 years time when both Scott brothers are out of the game. 

As it stands the Cats didn't have a 2015, 2016 and now 2017 first round draft pick. What if all other clubs simply refused to give the Cats another first round pick (no matter how good the offer)next year or in 2018? What would happen then?

14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

As it stands the Cats didn't have a 2015, 2016 and now 2017 first round draft pick. What if all other clubs simply refused to give the Cats another first round pick (no matter how good the offer)next year or in 2018? What would happen then?

They're digging a hole for themselves. But they sort of have to in order to get anywhere during Dangerfield's career. They can't go back to rebuild mode.

Did i just read right that the Cats are paying a first round pick AND a player for Tuohy? 

just about spat my arvo tea all over the table.

5 minutes ago, A F said:

They're digging a hole for themselves. But they sort of have to in order to get anywhere during Dangerfield's career. They can't go back to rebuild mode.

Smacks of Brisbane's attempt at a last surge of glory before their older champions retired. 

I don't hate Geelong enough to wish that future on them, though.

13 minutes ago, Abe said:

Did i just read right that the Cats are paying a first round pick AND a player for Tuohy? 

just about spat my arvo tea all over the table.

It's amazing isn't it!

So to use this year as a guide, it would be Smedts & Pick 16 for Tuohy & Pick 25. Now on face value it isn't to bad.  Certainly not good! But given next year Carlton will likely climb slightly and Cats drop in a strong draft, it looks worse and worse IMO.

4 hours ago, The Reverend said:

I taught the boy a few years back and his decision-making skills back then were not great. He may be getting what he deserves. Karma?

He says the Tiger's list and Hardwick is what convinced him to join the Tiges. FMD .

Looks like he hasn't made any in-roads in his decision-making skills then Rev!

 

Have people missed the part about Geelong getting Carlton's 2nd rounder back?

Geelong are backing themselves to win it next year (pick 18) and for carlton to finish close to last with Tuohy and Gibbs going (pick 20/21).

Smedts is a spud and Tuohy gives them something they don't have. To move back a few spots is hardly the terrible trade some are alluding to.

32 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Smacks of Brisbane's attempt at a last surge of glory before their older champions retired. 

I don't hate Geelong enough to wish that future on them, though.

I do. Half my family is Geelong. A very, very arrogant club.

welcome good player was out for a year which makes me a little un easy

3 minutes ago, greenmachine said:

welcome good player was out for a year which makes me a little un easy

 

Que?

It was a day of frenetic activity on the trade front as NAB AFL Trade Radio News  reports:-
 
• Dion Prestia will play at the Tigers next season after Richmond and Gold Coast today agreed on a trade which sees pick 6 head to the Suns.

• Jimmy Bartel has announced his retirement from football, confirming today that season 2016 would be his last.

• Adelaide's Jarryd Lyons has announced he wants to play at the Gold Coast Suns next season. This move could become part of the deal to get Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks.

• Gold Coast has once again announced it won't trade Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks unless they get something significant back in return. The club's chairman today saying the Suns would have no hesitation in sending O'Meara into the pre-season draft.

• Essendon's Michael Hibberd today became a Melbourne player after the two club's agreed on a trade

• The paperwork for Zach Tuohy to become a Cats player will be submitted tomorrow morning in a deal which will also see Billie Smedts sent to the Blues.

DONE DEALS SO FAR:

Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36
Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne for pick 69
Nathan Brown moves from Collingwood to St Kilda as a restricted free agent
Michael Hibberd and pick 59 traded to Melbourne in exchange for picks 29 and 68
Dion Prestia and pick 24 traded to Richmond in exchange for picks 6 and the club's 2017 future second round pick.
Toby Nankervis traded from Sydney to Richmond in exchange for pick 46.

Deledio has just requested a trade to GWS. Tomorrow's going to be hectic me thinks

14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

He says the Tiger's list and Hardwick is what convinced him to join the Tiges. FMD .

Looks like he hasn't made any in-roads in his decision-making skills then Rev!

 

Did he mention the money?

10 minutes ago, greenmachine said:

welcome good player was out for a year which makes me a little un easy

 

That uneasy feeling you are experiencing is perfectly normal with large quantities of amphetamine. Just ride it through. 

So GWS have picks 2, 15, 31, 37, 51, 55, 60, 69 and 109, while we have 57, 59, 84.

I cant see them turning over enough players to use most of those picks so I wonder if we might be able to better our draft position?

Without being to unrealistic, pick 59 for 55 and 69 (55 & 60 if they're generous)?

1 hour ago, A F said:

Yeah, Geelong are going nowhere. If Dangerfield doesn't win the Brownlow again, they won't get near the top 4. Tuohy is a half-decent role player, but Hibberd is a better bet. 

I look forward to 2-3 years time when both Scott brothers are out of the game. 

Do you really think Norf will take that long to dump ?

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

As it stands the Cats didn't have a 2015, 2016 and now 2017 first round draft pick. What if all other clubs simply refused to give the Cats another first round pick (no matter how good the offer)next year or in 2018? What would happen then?

Rest assured. The AFL will dream up something on the run 

33 minutes ago, Elwood 3184 said:

It was a day of frenetic activity on the trade front as NAB AFL Trade Radio News  reports:-
 
• Dion Prestia will play at the Tigers next season after Richmond and Gold Coast today agreed on a trade which sees pick 6 head to the Suns.

• Jimmy Bartel has announced his retirement from football, confirming today that season 2016 would be his last.

• Adelaide's Jarryd Lyons has announced he wants to play at the Gold Coast Suns next season. This move could become part of the deal to get Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks.

• Gold Coast has once again announced it won't trade Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks unless they get something significant back in return. The club's chairman today saying the Suns would have no hesitation in sending O'Meara into the pre-season draft.

• Essendon's Michael Hibberd today became a Melbourne player after the two club's agreed on a trade

• The paperwork for Zach Tuohy to become a Cats player will be submitted tomorrow morning in a deal which will also see Billie Smedts sent to the Blues.

DONE DEALS SO FAR:

Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36
Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne for pick 69
Nathan Brown moves from Collingwood to St Kilda as a restricted free agent
Michael Hibberd and pick 59 traded to Melbourne in exchange for picks 29 and 68
Dion Prestia and pick 24 traded to Richmond in exchange for picks 6 and the club's 2017 future second round pick.
Toby Nankervis traded from Sydney to Richmond in exchange for pick 46.

I've read the done deals so far ten times and I can't find the Lewis trade, did I dream it?

Good move by deledio gets a 3 year deal and a guaranteed premiership at some point, he won't win one at the tigers 

Someone do a best 22 for GWS.  I am too scared.

anyone think barlow is a chance to come to us? cheeky pick up for essentially nothing could do us no harm..

1 minute ago, Dommy_02 said:

anyone think barlow is a chance to come to us? cheeky pick up for essentially nothing could do us no harm..

With Hibberd , Lewis and Melksham Joining the team next season we have to draw the line somewhere and put as many games as possible into our young brigade in Petracca, Salem, Brayshaw, Oliver , Tyson, Hunt , Viney,Stretch, etc.so too many aging mids might even set our midfield development back a bit.

We have to back ourselves now.

Spots in the team will be difficult to come by.

5 minutes ago, Dommy_02 said:

anyone think barlow is a chance to come to us? cheeky pick up for essentially nothing could do us no harm..

 Nah.

we need to start getting rid of players to free up list space for the minimum 3 spots we have to take to the national draft.  Only got 1 spot on the list at the moment. Need at least 2 more gone.

Dunn plus Dawes probably does the trick.

Yeah I feel like aside from a few minor moves with Dunn and maybe a draft pick of two our exciting trade period is done. It will be interested to see if a few of those stalled trades get done though. GC seem to be firmly standing their ground on Jaeger (good on them too), if he goes into the ND will he do a Luke ball and put a huge price on his head to detract other clubs from getting him?