National Draft Pick 20

[Akum 2,660]

7 hours ago, Nasher said:

How much have they helped our younger players? Our back line is the youngest line of our young team.  You'd think if anyone needed a bit of experience, it'd be us.  Alas, we seemed to have coped just fine without them.

I'd be amazed if we got anything for these two.  Roos and Goodwin might as well have duct taped signs saying CAN'T PLAY MODERN DEFENCE on to their foreheads.  

I see your point. But Brisbane now are more like where we were about 3 years ago.

2017 for them will be like 2014 for us, when we had to build from the foundations up with more solid defensive structures. Dunn & Garland & Grimes may not be the right picks for us in 2016, but as good one-on-one players, they were the right men for the job in 2014.

We obviously won't get "Crazy Vossy" prices for them, but their prospects for regular games would surely be better at Brisbane.
 

[Mach5 4,482]

22 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am just the messenger. BTW I would still keep Dunn as Insurance but am happy to let Garland explore better opportunities. However if someone made a decent offer for Dunn, well we couldn't stand in his way could we?

I'd have thought Dunn was the one you let go, because he's much less mobile in my opinion.

[Redleg 37,909]

43 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I'd have thought Dunn was the one you let go, because he's much less mobile in my opinion.

I think Dunn is a better player than Garland and more versatile. I find Garland is timid and takes the wrong option and disposes poorly under pressure.

[Roost It 1,434]

No ones giving us pick 20 for Dunn or Garland or both. At best a fourth rounder. Dawes and ANB may secure pick 20 but is that a deal?

[Adzman 2,085]

At first I thought no way. But we gave up 24 for Melksham, and 20 for Garland and Dunn is better value than the Melksham deal....

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Teamplayedfine39, why would Dunn and Garland want to play for a basket case in Brisbane? (1) They are not going to get game time at Melbourne and hence no more contract renewal (2) Gaining the right people to run the club will be great,Leigh Mathews will give the club a massive shake up. note:- Dunn and Garland have both played forward B4.

[DV8 2,271]

On 16/08/2016 at 10:23 PM, Abe said:

I reckon a package of Dawes/Dunn or Garland would have to be tempting, two experienced starting best 22 ( for them and probably noone else ) key position players, and allow us to keep one of Dunn or Garland as insurance 

I suspect they would be more interested in Grimes & Dunn to help with leadership as they rebuild the right way.

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On 8/20/2016 at 0:53 PM, DV8 said:

I suspect they would be more interested in Grimes & Dunn to help with leadership as they rebuild the right way.

Grimes is a free agent so we have no real power to trade him to the Lions unless he wants to go there anyway.

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10 hours ago, Abe said:

Grimes is a free agent so we have no real power to trade him to the Lions unless he wants to go there anyway.

Trade,  don't know about trade,  but I think he would be of use to them.  Grimey is a mature man & player, who doesn't suit our zone structures.

A change for him will be beneficial to his game mind & to the club he goes to.  Old habits are hard to break in the old environment.

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On 19/08/2016 at 4:59 PM, Redleg said:

I think Dunn is a better player than Garland and more versatile. I find Garland is timid and takes the wrong option and disposes poorly under pressure.

I think Garlo is more versatile & coach-able.  Maybe why he got 3yrs last year.

Dunn is capable for a team with a different setup than our gameplan, a more trad game plan.  He would be good for brissy  depending on their structures, & also Dawes could help them with leadership.  These both being conservative leaders. 

They need to lose some of that street cred up there, & gain some smarts.  They will be in transition from here on, so will need players who can steady them.

The other one is Grimesy, but he may join his brother? 

 

I think the most likely, if Brissy like any of these 3 players, is we will trade with them, for players.   Who I don't know, i don't know their list well enough.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

Maybe this thread is not just wishful thinking (granted 38 is much more likely)

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Maybe this thread is not just wishful thinking (granted 38 is much more likely)

You were spot on with their interest, mate.  Well done!

I agree - Pick 38 is more likely, but could we talk them into Pick 20?  I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

[Binmans PA 26,316]

I'd certainly be keeping Dunn ahead of Garland if we were to get rid of one of them.

[spirit of norm smith 13,211]

Salem for pick 20... tempting ?? 

He is so ready to go but injury concerns still exist around his ability to put games together.

[Binmans PA 26,316]

16 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Salem for pick 20... tempting ?? 

He is so ready to go but injury concerns still exist around his ability to put games together.

Not at all. I'd only be giving up Salem for an A grader, not a speculative pick 20.

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6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Salem for pick 20... tempting ?? 

He is so ready to go but injury concerns still exist around his ability to put games together.

No. 

Where has this come from?

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

52 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Salem for pick 20... tempting ?? 

He is so ready to go but injury concerns still exist around his ability to put games together.

Good god no!

[SaberFang 7,141]

If I were the MFC, I'd be trying to get more currency from pick 26 than a straight swap for Hibberd.

Brisbane have St Kilda's second round pick this year (pick 28), so I'd try trading out pick 26 & Dunn for pick 20 & 28. Essentially Brisbane downgrade pick 20 six places, and give up pick 28 for Dunn (which we on-trade for Hibberd).

Gives us pick 20 as our first live pick in the draft.

Edited September 19, 2016 by SaberFang

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8 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Essentially Brisbane downgrade pick 20 six places, and give up pick 28 for Dunn

No one's giving that up for Lynden Dunn mate.  He's 29 years old, not 25.

Imagine if we were trading in a Dunn or Pederson or Cloke.  You'd be livid if we gave anything more than pick 50 or 60.

[Scipio 5,868]

38 for Dunn would be a great result for us, but I'd much rather we trade Garland.

[SaberFang 7,141]

2 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

No one's giving that up for Lynden Dunn mate.  He's 29 years old, not 25.

Imagine if we were trading in a Dunn or Pederson or Cloke.  You'd be livid if we gave anything more than pick 50 or 60.

We're talking about Brisbane here, who have consistently given up overs to get players in the door. They're desperate.

Dunn is a contracted KPP, they don't grow on trees. 

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14 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Salem for pick 20... tempting ?? 

He is so ready to go but injury concerns still exist around his ability to put games together.

Good god man, no.

Is that you Barry Prendegast ?