whatwhat say what 23,836 Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 my 'bigs' best 22: B: Jetta - T. McDonald - Frost HB: Hunt - O. McDonald - Hibberd C: Tyson - Jones - Vince HF: Petracca - Watts - Kent F: Weideman - Hogan - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Lewis - Viney I/C: Salem - Brayshaw - Oliver - Pedersen Emerg: Melksham - Stretch - vandenBerg my 'smalls' best 22: B: Jetta - T. McDonald - Hibberd HB: Hunt - O. McDonald - Vince C: Tyson - Jones - Salem HF: Petracca - Hogan - Kent F: Watts - Weideman - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Lewis - Viney I/C: Brayshaw - Oliver - Stretch - Frost Emerg: Melksham - vandenBerg - Harmes for round 1 i presume we'll go smaller, but i guess it'll come down to form etc.
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Obviously there will be changes due to preseason form and fitness, but at this stage I would be looking at: Jones O McDonald Hibberd Hunt Frost Lewis T McDonald Vince Salem Kent Hogan Vandenberg Petracca Watts Garlett Gawn Oliver Viney Stretch Brayshaw Jetta Bugg Notes Vince has played his best football for us as an inside midfielder tagging high calibre opponents. While he can play other roles, I think he is one of our best players when played in this role and there are a lot of gun midfielders in the competition who need a minder. Oliver is our best centre square clearance player and thus should start in the midfield. Lewis should be played in a similar role to Matthew Boyd at the Dogs IMO, who plays as their highest defender up the ground. I feel our midfield will become too slow with him in there. T McDonald plays on Riewoldt. Tyson is best 22 but I am not sure about him for Round 1 as he will be coming off a limited preseason for a fast game at Etihad. I like Vandenberg as the third tall forward as he provides better tackling pressure than Pederson or Weideman. Smith is a chance for this role also. I am not a big fan of Oscar McDonald and he needs to lift his intensity in the contest. But the Saints have a big forward line. The only locks in my 22 are Jones, Vince, Lewis, Gawn, Viney, T McDonald, Hunt, Watts, Hibberd and Hogan.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 Jetta. Tmac. Frost vince. Omac. Hibbard hunt. Tyson. Stretch petracca hogan. Kent watts. Weideman. Garlett gawn. Viney. Jones Lewis. Brayshaw.salem Oliver
Bring-Back-Powell 15,534 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Who plays on the following? Riewoldt Membrey Bruce McCartin. A big and potentially damaging forward line to match up on.
Bombay Airconditioning 6,504 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Who plays on the following? Riewoldt Membrey Bruce McCartin. A big and potentially damaging forward line to match up on. Is Membrey their ruck/fwd? Will Roo start on a wing?
ArtificialWisdom 4,045 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Who plays on the following? Riewoldt Membrey Bruce McCartin. A big and potentially damaging forward line to match up on. As BA alluded to above, Roo will most likely be on the wing so its not really a defender issue I suspect he wont be tagged to start but if he does get out of hand I would send Vince onto the wing with him. As for the rest, I think our zone will have improved since the last time we played them so we should do better. And as we know they pressue will have to come from the mids/forwards or the defenders will be left in the cold. The lineup at a centre bounce is tough, McCartin is their most talented forward but at his age he may not be the most dangerous... Id probably start by having TMac - Membrey, OMac - McCartin, Frost - Bruce. Reality is you could just about put their names in a hat and have the defenders pull them at random. St Kildas biggest advantage is they take turns being the number 1 man. Maybe ask again after the pre-season comp after we see who is in form for them.
jackaub 1,402 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Who comes in for Kent if he doesnt make it Maybe play Oli at half forward
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, jackaub said: Who comes in for Kent if he doesnt make it Maybe play Oli at half forward Probably just another midfield added to the mix but my preference for half forwards at this stage would be Vanders from Harmes, JKH, Ben Ken. I'm keen to see Hannan in full training soon to see if he can make his case but it looks unlikely.
ignition. 1,478 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 B: Jetta T.Mac Hibberd HB: Vince Frost Hunt C: Tyson Jones Salem HF: Petracca Watts Kent FF: Garlett Hogan Weideman R: Gawn Viney Lewis I: Melksham Oliver Brayshaw Stretch* E: O.Mac VB* ANB* Harmes* * = Struggled with that final spot.
ignition. 1,478 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Watts at CHF and Hogan at FF for me. Watts' entry into Hogan (or the F50) is at times superb! I also feel Hogan plays his best footy at FF (like the St.K game).
Bon appetit 23 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 If St Kilda play four talls in the forward line I think O Mac will get a run over Melksham.
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 4 hours ago, ignition. said: Watts at CHF and Hogan at FF for me. Watts' entry into Hogan (or the F50) is at times superb! I also feel Hogan plays his best footy at FF (like the St.K game). Maybe at Etihad but at most grounds Hogan is at his best using his endurance to work over players up the ground on the lead and in one on ones in space. I think his best games have been 10+ mark games roaming around the ground.
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 A few things have started clearing up the questions I've had over the tall defender and tall forward spots: 1. Gawn today alluded to Frost and Oscar having a battle over a tall defender spot. So I'd be looking at only one of those two. 2. The stat presented in another thread that Oscar Mc averages about three 1v1 contests a game. If that's all our defenders have to deal with I can see why we'd rather get more skill and run in to the side and be willing to lose 1 or so extra 1v1 contest and back us preventing any more than that with the zone. 3. Pedda's body has also impressed me. If there's more run in those legs I think he'll start round one. The fitness of Kent and Tyson are probably my biggest queries now. Otherwise there looks a reasonably clear best 18 or so with a couple of spots up for grabs. Very keen for some scratch match footy and then the preseason to see if anyone jumps out of the blue.
Demon Jack 7,194 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Did this in five minutes. I'm sure there are numouous players that I've forgotten about FB: Jetta OMac Frost HB: Hibberd TMac Hunt C: Salem Tyson Lewis HF: Petracca Hogan Watts FF: Garlett Pederson/Weideman Kent R: Gawn Viney Jones INT: Stretch Oliver Brayshaw Vince EMG: Harmes AVB Melksham
Vineytime 855 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: A few things have started clearing up the questions I've had over the tall defender and tall forward spots: 1. Gawn today alluded to Frost and Oscar having a battle over a tall defender spot. So I'd be looking at only one of those two. 2. The stat presented in another thread that Oscar Mc averages about three 1v1 contests a game. If that's all our defenders have to deal with I can see why we'd rather get more skill and run in to the side and be willing to lose 1 or so extra 1v1 contest and back us preventing any more than that with the zone. 3. Pedda's body has also impressed me. If there's more run in those legs I think he'll start round one. The fitness of Kent and Tyson are probably my biggest queries now. Otherwise there looks a reasonably clear best 18 or so with a couple of spots up for grabs. Very keen for some scratch match footy and then the preseason to see if anyone jumps out of the blue. Frost plays in front of OMac IMO, OMac still needs to work on pace, skills...
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,376 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 B: Jetta Frost Hibberd HB: Hunt T-Mac Vince C: Lewis Tyson Brayshaw HF: Petracca Hogan Kent F: Garlett Watts Pederson Ru: Gawn Jones Viney Int: Oliver Salem Stretch Vanders Emerg from: JKH OMac Weid
CBDees 3,167 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I thought that this would be easy, (just alter b-r-f-e's post) however, not keen about leaving out Kent and Harmes and putting JKH, Vanders and Melksham as emergencies. Also interested to see how our new guys go in the practice match next week. I predict that this line-up will differ widely from my views in a month's time. B: Jetta Frost Hibberd HB: Hunt T-Mac Vince C: Lewis Tyson Brayshaw HF: Petracca Hogan Weideman F: Garlett Pederson Watts Ru: Gawn Jones Viney Int: Oliver Salem Stretch O'Mac Emerg from: JKH Vanders Melksham
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I'm starting to think if Kent's some way off, JKH will get the nod. Harmes for Tyson (but I think Tyson will be right) and, Wagner or Melksham for Hibberd (who also should get up)
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Obviously a lot can change over the JLT Series, but I think that our list can divided into 3 categories right at this moment: Round 1 Locks Hogan, Jones, Salem, Watts. Petracca, Lewis, Viney, Brayshaw, Gawn, Tyson, Oliver, Hibberd, Frost, Melksham, Vince, Tom McDonald, Oscar McDonald, Hunt, Garlett, Jetta In the mix – Competition for remaining spots will be fierce Trengove, Billy Stretch (First picked out of this group), Kent (Would normally be in the above group but his back is an issue), Garland, Pedersen, AvB, JKH, Weideman, ANB, Bugg, Jake Spencer, Ben Kennedy, Tim Smith, Dion Johnstone, Wagner, Harmes, Joel Smith Developing at Casey Mitch Hannon (Shoulder reco will hold him back), Liam Hulett, Mitch King, Pat McKenna, Mitch White, Declan Keilty (He’s not far from the above group if one of our KPD goes down), Filipovic, Corey Maynard The one thing that stands out to me is our improved depth.
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 B: JETTA, T.MCDONALD, O.MCDONALD HB: HUNT, FROST, VINCE C: MELKSHAM, LEWIS, BRAYSHAW HF: PETRACCA, HOGAN, WATTS F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, PEDERSEN FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, JONES IC: TYSON, HIBBERD, SALEM, OLIVER EMERG: STRETCH, VANDENBERG, HARMES INJ: KENT
whatwhat say what 23,836 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Last wild stab in the dark before the preseason begins... B: Jetta - T McDonald - Frost HB: Hunt - O McDonald - Hibberd C: Salem - Jones - Vince HF: Petracca - Hogan - Brayshaw F: Watts - Weideman - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Lewis - Viney I/C: Oliver - Stretch - vandenBerg - Kennedy-Harris Emerg: Trengove - Melksham - Spencer Injured: Tyson, Kent
The end is nigh 447 Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 If like a stab at this too: b: Jetta Frost Garland hb: Vince T.Mac Hunt c: Lewis* Oliver Brayshaw hf: Petracca Hogan Melksham f: Watts Pedersen Garlett foll: GAWN Jones(c) Viney(c) I: Salem Stretch vandenBerg . Bugg a case could be made for 10 or so others (hoping trenners weid and McKenna put their hands up). I've gone garland to play on membrey but if a) hibberd is fit and ready or b) he's not up to it; then I'd go with Wagner. * I would love Lewis to go to Riewoldt on the wing and be a bigger headache than his opponent. bit of a risky 'hurt factor' competition, but would be great to throw them off from the start.
What 18,810 Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Called it months ago that JKH will play Round 1, and have a breakout season. Sticking by that prediction.
Gator 18,053 Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Called it months ago that JKH will play Round 1, and have a breakout season. Sticking by that prediction. As Redleg has recently said, internally he's quite highly rated by the coaching group, and with a query on Kent I also think he's every chance to play round one if he has a strong JLT series.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I wonder if Tim smith might be a sneaky chance at round 1 instead of Sam weideman, I really like Weids but I still think he is going to take a bit of time and Tim smith seems like he could step up right away
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