MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 18

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, AzzKikA said:

Just in your sights now aren't I you tool?

I couldn't give a toss what you have to say stuie, your just a troll that i no longer have time for, oh and if you saw past your hatred i didn't write "RIP Grimes' career" i wrote "RIP Grimes' career at the mfc".  I knew you would say something, you precious little parasite.

I know what you wrote, I'm talking about how much of a rubbish bloke you are posting funny memes about the end of someone's career.

But given your poor use of the English language in your reply it's clear the point went over your head.

 

[old dee 22,930]

Just now, AzzKikA said:

Just in your sights now aren't I you tool?

I couldn't give a toss what you have to say stuie, your just a troll that i no longer have time for, oh and if you saw past your hatred i didn't write "RIP Grimes' career" i wrote "RIP Grimes' career at the mfc".  I knew you would say something, you precious little parasite.

Wow slow up he is just giving an opinion. 

Whether you agree or not surely does not require that vitriol 

Make yourself a coffee or go foir a walk it is just a football team not the middle east.

 

[beelzebub 22,230]

3 hours ago, Copuchas said:

Old Dee, I think that's probably the working premise.  For a lot of people though there'd be a view that Dawes' best betters Pedersen's best.  I suspect Roos is firmly in this camp and hence the patience and persistence.  Chris has showed tantalising glimpses of what he's capable of when fit and it makes us a better outfit.  However, there's been no injury excuse in recent times - he just didn't stand up when he needed to.  Pedersen on the other hand was going along pretty consistently before being struck down with illness / injury.  Tomorrow looms large for Dawes.

Maybe Paul can hold Chris's hand on the way out ?

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,270]

33 minutes ago, old dee said:

Yes playing a myriad of kids who are wet behind the ears.

In 2011 I think we won 11 games this year the best I can see is 9.

On that basis we are no better off.

8-13-1 in 2011.

I think we were 7-7-1 after beating Port in round 17 that year.

I hope we don't end 2016 like we did 2011.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

I can't believe some think Pedersen is done and should be delisted. Prior to his injury, the bloke was kicking 2 or 3 a game and taking contested grabs at both ends of the ground. He is a seriously good pack mark and provides a contest, which is far more than you can say for Dawesy. I think a few people need to go back and have a look at Pedersen's early season matches. He is also reasonably agile for a bick bloke and can at least hold the ball up if he doesn't mark. Dawes turns slower than the Queen Mary and could't run down a sloth crossing the road. 

[stuie 7,374]

2 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I can't believe some think Pedersen is done and should be delisted. Prior to his injury, the bloke was kicking 2 or 3 a game and taking contested grabs at both ends of the ground. He is a seriously good pack mark and provides a contest, which is far more than you can say for Dawesy. I think a few people need to go back and have a look at Pedersen's early season matches. He is also reasonably agile for a bick bloke and can at least hold the ball up if he doesn't mark. Dawes turns slower than the Queen Mary and could't run down a sloth crossing the road. 

He'll also turn 30 before next season starts. I think that might be the main factor.

 

[old dee 22,930]

5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

8-13-1 in 2011.

I think we were 7-7-1 after beating Port in round 17 that year.

I hope we don't end 2016 like we did 2011.

186 in the last game BBp?

I dont think so at least we will be trying this year.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

6 minutes ago, stuie said:

He'll also turn 30 before next season starts. I think that might be the main factor.

 

So Bernie Vince is a certain delisting then too

[stuie 7,374]

6 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

So Bernie Vince is a certain delisting then too

Yes, because Bernie and Pedo are equal in talent, position, performance and contract status... So that's exactly what I meant. Clearly.

 

[rjay 23,928]

1 hour ago, stuie said:

Not the point.

I agree it's likely the last game we've seen him play, but to post a "RIP Grimes' career" meme up is poor form.

I agree 'stuie', it was poor form.

Grimes has given great service to the club and deserves a bit more respect than that.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

Yes, because Bernie and Pedo are equal in talent, position, performance and contract status... So that's exactly what I meant. Clearly.

 

Vince has been average for two months..is 32...I would argue that we have a plethora of midfielders to replace him, while Pedo is one of the few big bodied talls who has proven he can take a mark and kick a goal. You argued that based on age he was finished. That was what you said..he will be delisted because he turns thirty. The only thing you considered was age. I was being a smartarse and saying that based on your dribble thinking, Vince was done too

[rjay 23,928]

26 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I can't believe some think Pedersen is done and should be delisted. Prior to his injury, the bloke was kicking 2 or 3 a game and taking contested grabs at both ends of the ground. He is a seriously good pack mark and provides a contest, which is far more than you can say for Dawesy. I think a few people need to go back and have a look at Pedersen's early season matches. He is also reasonably agile for a bick bloke and can at least hold the ball up if he doesn't mark. Dawes turns slower than the Queen Mary and could't run down a sloth crossing the road. 

Personally I would prefer a fit Peders over Dawes...however he can be a bit lazy and coming off illness might give him a bit of a let out.

I would think both unlikely to play much senior footy next year delisted or not...if Weed or Hewlett can't get a game then we are on the wrong tram.

They were both coming off injury interrupted years in junior footy and the club has given them the year to get some good consistent game time.

Despite the theory that talls take longer, and it does apply to rucks, all of the really good KPP's play and show something in their first year.

...so we've either got 1 or 2 beauties ready to go next year or we've got Ayce Cordy & Liam McBean.

 

[stuie 7,374]

7 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Vince has been average for two months..is 32...I would argue that we have a plethora of midfielders to replace him, while Pedo is one of the few big bodied talls who has proven he can take a mark and kick a goal. You argued that based on age he was finished. That was what you said..he will be delisted because he turns thirty. The only thing you considered was age. I was being a smartarse and saying that based on your dribble thinking, Vince was done too

That is NOT what I actually said. I said his age "might be the main factor". Are you that simple that you can't extrapolate that for yourself? Want me to make a PowerPoint presentation? Out of contract. Not being selected. Fitness already a worry. Others coming through in the same role.

Also, I'm fairly sure our reigning Bluey winner has a few more credits in the bank than a bloke who has played 59 games.

[DubDee 20,876]

50 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

I can't believe some think Pedersen is done and should be delisted. Prior to his injury, the bloke was kicking 2 or 3 a game and taking contested grabs at both ends of the ground. He is a seriously good pack mark and provides a contest, which is far more than you can say for Dawesy. I think a few people need to go back and have a look at Pedersen's early season matches. He is also reasonably agile for a bick bloke and can at least hold the ball up if he doesn't mark. Dawes turns slower than the Queen Mary and could't run down a sloth crossing the road. 

I think you might have rose coloured glasses on:  5 goals in 7 games.  had a couple of good games and a few poor ones.  was in line to be dropped.

not that Im saying Dawes is better

[The Sailing Demon 379]

On 20/7/2016 at 5:11 PM, Demon Jack said:

Chances are that I'll probably end up going to the movies on Saturday and miss the game, only to find myself gloating afterwards that I sat through every minute of our thrilling 2 point win.

It's weird that you should say that, I had a dream last night that we won 52-50.
If that does eventuate I will conclude that you and I must be long lost twins with some kind of mental connection.

I am eager to see the results.

[WA Demon13 39]

Dawes current profile picture

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Just now, stuie said:

I know what you wrote, I'm talking about how much of a rubbish bloke you are posting funny memes about the end of someone's career.

But given your poor use of the English language in your reply it's clear the point went over your head.

 

Firstly it's not a meme, 

It was a lighthearted poor attempt at humor to try and lighten up a glum situation and in your eyes i failed, you could be a little less confrontational in your reply but no not you stuie, insult first then apologize never.  I normally have a lot of patience with you but lately your self righteousness is wearing it thin.  

You can have your opinion, I can have mine re: Dawes.  So in your eyes he NEEDS to be in the team no matter what, there is no other option, it's him or nothing?

 

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Wow slow up he is just giving an opinion. 

Whether you agree or not surely does not require that vitriol 

Make yourself a coffee or go for a walk it is just a football team not the middle east.

 

So he can have a malicious swipe at me but i cannot defend myself?

Sounds fair.

[stuie 7,374]

5 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Firstly it's not a meme, 

It was a lighthearted poor attempt at humor to try and lighten up a glum situation and in your eyes i failed, you could be a little less confrontational in your reply but no not you stuie, insult first then apologize never.  I normally have a lot of patience with you but lately your self righteousness is wearing it thin.  

You can have your opinion, I can have mine re: Dawes.  So in your eyes he NEEDS to be in the team no matter what, there is no other option, it's him or nothing?

No, it was you trying to be a tough internet guy, giving it to someone whose career may be over. I'm no Grimes fan, but posting up a meme (yes, it was a meme) like that was just poor form, simple as that.

And now you're just hitting the silly stuff... Please show me where I've said Dawes "NEEDS to be in the team no matter what, there is no other option" etc etc... If you actually had any clue what you were talking about you would have noted I called for him to be dropped (and Hulett to come in) the week he was dropped, and I called for Spencer back in this week with no sign of Dawes. However, I understand the structural issues, developmental timing, injury & fitness complications and wants of our main key forward that mean Dawes is playing this week. I'm guessing you don't.

 

Edited July 22, 2016 by stuie

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

35 minutes ago, WA Demon13 said:

Dawes current profile picture

Zing!

[AzzKikA 2,371]

8 minutes ago, stuie said:

No, it was you trying to be a tough internet guy, giving it to someone whose career may be over. I'm no Grimes fan, but posting up a meme (yes, it was a meme) like that was just poor form, simple as that.

And now you're just hitting the silly stuff... Please show me where I've said Dawes "NEEDS to be in the team no matter what, there is no other option" etc etc... If you actually had any clue what you were talking about you would have noted I called for him to be dropped (and Hulett to come in) the week he was dropped, and I called for Spencer back in this week with no sign of Dawes. However, I understand the structural issues, developmental timing, injury & fitness complications and wants of our main key forward that mean Dawes is playing this week. I'm guessing you don't.

 

All i can do is laugh and shake my head at you, calling ME the internet tough guy, what the hell has a tough guy internet image got to do with it? I think it is time the doctors had a good talk to you, recommitting you may be necessary.

And do not bother replying, I am sick of your high and mighty comments, every single post from you there is some kind of snide remark or dig at someone's opinion, you being silenced with make this place enjoyable again.

[stuie 7,374]

3 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

All i can do is laugh and shake my head at you, calling ME the internet tough guy, what the hell has a tough guy internet image got to do with it? I think it is time the doctors had a good talk to you, recommitting you may be necessary.

And do not bother replying, I am sick of your high and mighty comments, every single post from you there is some kind of snide remark or dig at someone's opinion, you being silenced with make this place enjoyable again.

Throws insults then says "don't bother replying"... Yeah, totally not a typical internet guy at all.

 

Edited July 22, 2016 by stuie

[Jaded No More 58,345]

3 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Sometimes I really like your posts and your perspective on footy.  Then then other times, like this, I don't.

I'm not a Dawes fan mainly because of his inconsistency but he is capable of good key position forward play on occasions.  I reckon the FD know more than us and would have played Dunn forward if there was merit in it.  He played forward for the second half against Saints first time around and hardly touched it.  He was "hidden" there because he couldn't play the new zoning defence. 

Onward and upward.  Let's hope Hulett and Weed progress quickly over the preseason.

I think we can both agree on one thing: neither Dunn not Dawes are part of our future and both are bad plugs to a big gaping hole 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,467]

1 hour ago, The Sailing Demon said:

It's weird that you should say that, I had a dream last night that we won 52-50.
If that does eventuate I will conclude that you and I must be long lost twins with some kind of mental connection.

I am eager to see the results.

If that is indeed the final score I will be both delighted (in the win) and despairing (over the quality of football played).

[McQueen 17,864]

Don't know if it's been mentioned before but BenKen and Bugg are the traveling emergencies. Newton nowhere to be seen today.

[WA Demon13 39]

I could see a spot for Bugg V's Pridis - same body type , height etc and speed