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Casey has been a terrific alignment from a financial standpoint over the past 7 years. A vfl standalone is worth a few hundred thousand dollars a season to run. Given our financial issues it has been a great success for us to develop our kids at Casey without the crippling overheads of a standalone. Sometimes we forget just how bad the mfc was, the casey alignment has been better than people are making out.

With the way the Melbourne football club is now positioned a standalone vfl team looks almost certain for us in the upcoming few seasons. We should be thankful for the casey alignment and enjoy another year or two of it while we have it. 

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12 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Casey is in the second fastest growing region in the country. On a broader level we need to build our supporter base. Id be pretty sure that's one of the reasons we are out there.

Footy is pretty important but we can't ignore the bigger picture longer term...

Jnr if putting our own reserves team up helps our boys to align better with the style/method and basic "team" parameters we are trying to instill at senior level, and it happens to help put us one step closer to some silverware in a shorter time frame, I think it would build a much bigger supporter base than simply being aligned with a small cog (Scorps) within the Casey growth region.

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12 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Jnr if putting our own reserves team up helps our boys to align better with the style/method and basic "team" parameters we are trying to instill at senior level, and it happens to help put us one step closer to some silverware in a shorter time frame, I think it would build a much bigger supporter base than simply being aligned with a small cog (Scorps) within the Casey growth region.

There is merit in what you say but you can't turn these things on and off. There is a lot of planning goes into them.

In an ideal world we have our own side in a nice suburb :)

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15 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Jnr if putting our own reserves team up helps our boys to align better with the style/method and basic "team" parameters we are trying to instill at senior level, and it happens to help put us one step closer to some silverware in a shorter time frame, I think it would build a much bigger supporter base than simply being aligned with a small cog (Scorps) within the Casey growth region.

I think Casey under Plapp are playing the style of football that the seniors are using, certainly more so than under the last coach. The game on Saturday was the worst I have seen them play this year although they had a shocker against Port in a practice match pre-season. They will bounce back next week no doubt.

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9 hours ago, jnrmac said:

There is merit in what you say but you can't turn these things on and off. There is a lot of planning goes into them.

In an ideal world we have our own side in a nice suburb :)

No doubt Jnr. Certainly couldn't be done overnight and would need a truckload of $$

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5 hours ago, Samael said:

I think Casey under Plapp are playing the style of football that the seniors are using, certainly more so than under the last coach. The game on Saturday was the worst I have seen them play this year although they had a shocker against Port in a practice match pre-season. They will bounce back next week no doubt.

I'll take your word on that Samael. Can only hope they were completely off page on Saturday. At the same time the track was very unforgiving but it was the same for both sides.

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It's worth noting that Col Garland said in his on stage interview with Robbo said it was the worst ground conditions he's ever played on and that it was borderline unplayable. 

It sounds as if it was not played in an environment comparable enough to AFL conditions to be able to draw any inferences from it. I'd pretty much just disregard the result including the form of the players who played in it.

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9 minutes ago, Nasher said:

It's worth noting that Col Garland said in his on stage interview with Robbo said it was the worst ground conditions he's ever played on and that it was borderline unplayable. 

It sounds as if it was not played in an environment comparable enough to AFL conditions to be able to draw any inferences from it. I'd pretty much just disregard the result including the form of the players who played in it.

Collingwood were very fierce at the contest. The ground may have been poor but they played it much better.

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4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Collingwood were very fierce at the contest. The ground may have been poor but they played it much better.

I guess my point is I don't really give a fig who was better or who won. I'm a MFC supporter not a Casey supporter, so if there's nothing to be gained that is relevant to AFL experience then I'm not too fussed. It's as relevant as it would be if we'd lined up against the Melbourne Storm in a rugby game and lost (okay - that's an exaggeration but you see the point).

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6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I guess my point is I don't really give a fig who was better or who won. I'm a MFC supporter not a Casey supporter, so if there's nothing to be gained that is relevant to AFL experience then I'm not too fussed. It's as relevant as it would be if we'd lined up against the Melbourne Storm in a rugby game and lost (okay - that's an exaggeration but you see the point).

I think what you are missing Nasher is the Casey team is our reserves.

That is the way I look at it.

I can  fortunately get to a few games and enjoy watching similar to many moons ago when they used to be the curtain raiser.

 

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1 hour ago, Nasher said:

It's worth noting that Col Garland said in his on stage interview with Robbo said it was the worst ground conditions he's ever played on and that it was borderline unplayable

It sounds as if it was not played in an environment comparable enough to AFL conditions to be able to draw any inferences from it. I'd pretty much just disregard the result including the form of the players who played in it.

Coming from someone who played his junior footy in Tassie, that's a big statement!

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For some perverse reason ?, I've actually been looking forward to this one:-

VFL Player Review: Round 10

The interesting one is the comment about Jack Grimes:-

"He was taken off the ground at three quarter time due to some stuff at AFL level that we just needed him to be ready for but we were really happy with Grimesy."

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On 13/06/2016 at 3:16 PM, Samael said:

I think Casey under Plapp are playing the style of football that the seniors are using, certainly more so than under the last coach. The game on Saturday was the worst I have seen them play this year although they had a shocker against Port in a practice match pre-season. They will bounce back next week no doubt.

If you goto a game, and head out to the 1/4 and 3/4 time huddles, Plapp is always the last one into the huddle after the assistant coaches. The reason is that Brendan McCartney is always the one that has him aside and having a quiet word in his ear right before he joins the huddle. Happened when I was there on Saturday, and every single break I've seen at this year at games I've been to, and same last year. Quite often Goodwin always has a chat to him post huddle, so I think they're coming from a similar coaching philosophy down there at Casey

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

For some perverse reason ?, I've actually been looking forward to this one:-

VFL Player Review: Round 10

The interesting one is the comment about Jack Grimes:-

"He was taken off the ground at three quarter time due to some stuff at AFL level that we just needed him to be ready for but we were really happy with Grimesy."

Perhaps if Viney didn't come up he would have been the replacement? 

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On 14/06/2016 at 1:27 PM, Nasher said:

It's worth noting that Col Garland said in his on stage interview with Robbo said it was the worst ground conditions he's ever played on and that it was borderline unplayable. 

It sounds as if it was not played in an environment comparable enough to AFL conditions to be able to draw any inferences from it. I'd pretty much just disregard the result including the form of the players who played in it.

It was a day that had only 1 real skill that relates to AFL football and that was contested ball. Maybe mental resilience as well. 

Kicking, handballing, running patterns were pretty much out the window. And it was so wet and muddy that if you couldn't tackle you never will so that didn't really count. 

That said, from the half I watched on TV it was disappointing that a few of our players didn't adapt better so I hope they learnt from it. I'd like to have seen ANB be more effective around the contest given it's his strength. Hulett could've contested better. And Garlett was down right poor given the ball was on the ground for so long.

Not much you can do about a truckload of rain but hopefully the MFC/Casey are always working to improve the ground conditions. I'd like to develop our players in better conditions if possible! Maybe some drainage work needed in the off season and more shelter from the wind is needed.

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