I think we would all love to see Jack play 100 games. It is more sentiment than logic, unless there are injuries or poor form from the current group. It's a tough business and the club has suddenly developed a tough take no prisoners attitude after decades of decay. So after watching the shambles of those decades, Northey and Daniher years excepted, I want to continue to see this tough new attitude predominate both on field and off field, like the top clubs. No-one can be gifted games. The sad reality is that there are great blokes who will not have their dreams and hopes realized and that they will be either depth players or end up playing elsewhere. I love Jack but I think that the nature of our new club means that his window of opportunity has passed unless we have injuries or form problems. No doubt we will, so Jack probably will deserve a game. However, he will not be with us next year when you look at the development list.

12 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I think we would all love to see Jack play 100 games. It is more sentiment than logic, unless there are injuries or poor form from the current group. It's a tough business and the club has suddenly developed a tough take no prisoners attitude after decades of decay. So after watching the shambles of those decades, Northey and Daniher years excepted, I want to continue to see this tough new attitude predominate both on field and off field, like the top clubs. No-one can be gifted games. The sad reality is that there are great blokes who will not have their dreams and hopes realized and that they will be either depth players or end up playing elsewhere. I love Jack but I think that the nature of our new club means that his window of opportunity has passed unless we have injuries or form problems. No doubt we will, so Jack probably will deserve a game. However, he will not be with us next year when you look at the development list.

Sorry H disagree. I think the club is duty bound to get him to 100 games if he is anywhere near the required AFL level (which he is) and believe there is still a place for this sort of approach in the game.

Footy will never be just business and it simply cannot be forgotten what he has given to this club. They'll get him those two games and i will be proud of the club when they do.

12 hours ago, The Big Sauce said:

it would be great to have a banner for him. 100 games Grimesy

Fantastic.

 

 

Jack will get to his 100th by games on merit. He was very close last week. 

It is very clear that with our new found dynamic talent inclusions such as Wagner and Hunt, new found depth with visibly more strings to their bow down back and - Jetta being as solid as can be - that Jack has found it hard to crack into the team. 

Added to that the arrival of Melksham to the list and you can see the lay of the land. 

As is the case with most if not all teams, in the second half of the season, players will need a refresher or rest for niggles, some sent off to surgery in prep for the Pre-Season. Jack hasn't played his last game with Melbfc - I have no doubt.

7 minutes ago, binman said:

Sorry H disagree. I think the club is duty bound to get him to 100 games if he is anywhere near the required AFL level (which he is) and believe there is still a place for this sort of approach in the game.

Footy will never be just business and it simply cannot be forgotten what he has given to this club. They'll get him those two games and i will be proud of the club when they do.

Well said binman, love your honesty, integrity and heart. I am only half the man you are. Perhaps I am just getting old and impatient and although I love Jack I also love the young kids and what I see happening to our great club. But your point is well made.

4 hours ago, binman said:

Sorry H disagree. I think the club is duty bound to get him to 100 games if he is anywhere near the required AFL level (which he is) and believe there is still a place for this sort of approach in the game.

Footy will never be just business and it simply cannot be forgotten what he has given to this club. They'll get him those two games and i will be proud of the club when they do.

Am glad i searched a bit before posting, this sums up how i feel. He has given enough for two more games at least. Reckon its delicate if they plan on letting him go but on balance i think the respect it would show to the player would sit well with the team.

Whilst not having played this year, he's been emergency almost every week which suggests he's right on the cusp of the best 22. Will get the 2 games this year. Either way. would not be surprised at all if he's kept on as very handy depth player going forwards. 

1 hour ago, adsy said:

Whilst not having played this year, he's been emergency almost every week which suggests he's right on the cusp of the best 22. Will get the 2 games this year. Either way. would not be surprised at all if he's kept on as very handy depth player going forwards. 

I think he plays this weekend

Hope Jack is in this week. Deserves a chance. I still think he has a future in the red and blue.

History shows this year that players don't get dropped after being elevated to the seniors (1 exception Stretch, R3). Given he's close to a call up, and we've got another trip to the NT after the break where we should rest some younger players, I'm confident the club will get him to 100 games before years end, as they should. I'm not confident, however, that he'll still be with us next year.

He'll look good next season in a Richmond jumper.

 

I think he'll play this week

Great servant through some very hard years.

He is courageous and good overhead but his decision making and disposal are average at best. 

In 2016 that makes it tough for Jack to play at AFL level.

10 hours ago, Redleg said:

With Melksham to come, Hibberd being chased, Salem Garland and HL injured and youngsters doing well and Grimes not getting a game despite good form, it is pretty likely he will want to move on at the end of th season.

Can see him in yellow and black with his brother.  

Agree- my thoughts exactly....but to some degree, as you have stated- the club has let him down badly..they at least owe him two games..

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He'll look good next season in a Richmond jumper.

 

Poor form Ethan you are so much better than that.

I hope he gets his couple of games.

Will obviously depend how we're travelling near end of season 

27 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Poor form Ethan you are so much better than that.

I don't mind Grimes, I actually want to see him get a game, but it's clear his time at the MFC is over. 

It's well known Richmond are welcoming to other clubs unwanted players. 

He's 27, but there is no reason why he cant improve his game. Bernie Vince has taken his game to new levels in recent times so I don't think it should be a case of trade out grimes just because he isn't a instant best 22 player in 2016. All clubs need depth and Grimes is sold and reliable if not slightly flawed.

Hoping he plays this weekend and plays well

I think he should play the required matches against teams we're almost certain to lose against anyway. His stronger body would also make it a better fit against those teams. Sunday,s match is a case in point, particularly as it will be heavy going. 

It's funny how people automatically think because his brother is at Richmond he'll go there. He's more likely to go somewhere else, IMO. Richmond have a number of his type anyway. They don't need to be sentimental with him and neither do we to be frank.

his return is a nice story and ihope he clicks a 100 games. but he is surplus to our needs now and if delisted next year by us, he will only be rookie listed by a rival club in 2017. sad but true

5 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

It's funny how people automatically think because his brother is at Richmond he'll go there. He's more likely to go somewhere else, IMO. Richmond have a number of his type anyway. They don't need to be sentimental with him and neither do we to be frank.

I agree with that, I would add that I don't think Hardwick will be there next year, I think Richmond will move on him, they will obviously have to pay him out but if they don't they will lose members, not for ever but they will walk and only come back after a change is made. 

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I agree with that, I would add that I don't think Hardwick will be there next year, I think Richmond will move on him, they will obviously have to pay him out but if they don't they will lose members, not for ever but they will walk and only come back after a change is made. 

He signed a three year extension this year, he will be coaching Richmond next season.

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He signed a three year extension this year, he will be coaching Richmond next season.

Microwave sales in Punt Rd will go through the roof.

6 hours ago, ManDee said:

Microwave sales in Punt Rd will go through the roof.

You can always get sacked, he Hardwick) surely has underperformed .

6 hours ago, ManDee said:

Microwave sales in Punt Rd will go through the roof.

Im thinking about setting up a popup stall out the front,selling microwaves at the start of next year, make me a killing