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I get furious about wrong decisions and inconsistency throughout the game but i do have some sympathy;  at times i understand they ate human and may make mistakes. 

 

What i find hard to accept are the clear [censored] ups like:

 

- standing <10m away stair in front and not calling the throw

- getting the 10 m zone aid the bark wrong for pedo

- taking twice as long to pay holding the ball as any other free kick, just for the theatre of the decision

- the clear double standards like when Jones for taken out after he kicked it last week. 

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15 minutes ago, willmoy said:

What made things all the more confusing today were the contrasting interpretations of the similar situations from our game as what occurred in Sydney's and Footscray's Games

I think this happens every match, and will always happen given the number of umpires and the problem of personal interpretation on the rules. For me the problem week in week out is the complete lack of commonsense displayed by umpires and the picking out of free kicks in a random unnecessary manner, often wrong, but almost a way for the umpire to be seen as important or relevant. Almost ego driven umpiring. This probably reads as a ridiculous comment but I do think that umpiring is increasingly ego driven. I also think the standard of umpiring is generally deplorable. 

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Umpires should never be blamed for a loss but seriously this guy is absolutely baffling with his decisions some times. Ray Chamberlain, you are NOT taking part on the field.

You are an umpire. A terrible one. How he continues to get a gig is baffling.

There's 16 year old umpires better than this bloke. Absolute [censored].

Posted
3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Who was the umpire who didn't see the GWS player throw the ball even though he was five metres away with a clear view?

All of them.

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Want your mind blown? Here we go -

Melbourne v GWS - total number of free kicks - 46

Port vs St Kilda - total number of free kicks - 27

 

And just in case you think it was because of intensity of play or anything -

Melbourne v GWS - tackles 104

Port v St Kilda - tackles 178

I'd check the contested possession count, but the trouble is, free kicks count as contested possessions!

 

 

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Needs horse whipping.

Generally speaking pay the first free kick you see objectively and that should set the tone for the rest of the game.

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Posted
6 hours ago, deanox said:

I get furious about wrong decisions and inconsistency throughout the game but i do have some sympathy;  at times i understand they ate human and may make mistakes. 

 

What i find hard to accept are the clear [censored] ups like:

 

- standing <10m away stair in front and not calling the throw

- getting the 10 m zone aid the bark wrong for pedo

- taking twice as long to pay holding the ball as any other free kick, just for the theatre of the decision

- the clear double standards like when Jones for taken out after he kicked it last week. 

Spot on for all points, couldn't agree more.


Posted
10 hours ago, deanox said:

.......do have some sympathy;  at times i understand they ate human and may make mistakes. 

 

yuk.......that explains a lot

 

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I don't have a "thing" for or against Razor Ray.

I understand that umps make mistakes, just like Jesse had a day where he clunked every mark and looked like he wanted to burn holes in his palms with his x-ray vision.

I get that I can see a clear throw in the stands but the ump might not see it due to obstruction, movement of bodies, parallax, seagulls, southern aurora, or whatever.

I do not get that certain rules can not be enforced consistently, especially when they require no "interpretation" or split second instinctive judgement calls.

Such as the new 10-metre protected area rule. Even when it was 5m it was poorly policed.

Or kicks less than 15m, or running without bouncing more than 15m. See these every single game.

The umps can look at the cut marks on the grass to get a feel for the distances. Usually the grass is cut in 10m bands.

Or players roaming off the line (from goal through mark) after mark or free. They just drift sideways, and a bit more, and a bit more, and the umps just let them!

We have a game that has "interpretation' seemingly built in to the rules. Only sport in the world that has rules that require "interpretation".

Then we have umpires directors that embrace this "interpretation" bull, and we've even had ones that make up new rules impromptu mid-week (Gieschen and his "natural arc").

Then we have new interpretations shoved on us every single season and even this year, we have had a 3-game trial of a rule only to have the trial called off after 2 games and the rule engraved into bronze. I thought trial periods went for the whole trial period to glean as much information as possible so as to make an informed decision? (Unless the decision was already made before the "trial".)

No wonder the umpiring is in such as mess when we have poorly framed rules, a culture that encourages management to twiddle the rules at will, and no insistence on enforcing even the rules that require no interpretation.

Where does that leave us with rules that do require interpretation? (prior opportunity, deliberate out of bounds etc). A fracking mess.

You may as well toss a coin.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

yuk.......that explains a lot

 

Kuru- poor bloke.

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Posted

Whinge....Whinge....Whinge.

Have you blokes ever umpired???   This game is very difficult to umpire....I did it for a season, umpiring under 17's....My main job was to dodge the cans getting thrown at me.

No umpire hates any team....Yes they make mistakes but have no benefit of slow mo replays etc etc

You just have to cop the good with the bad and suck it up.

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What about the AFL Umpire that will give a free straight after the one that he missed, and to the same team, to make up for it. Rain, hail or shine. Usually happens to Collingwood or Essendon. Another problem that seems prevalent is how free kicks "even up"  Can this be merely explained away by change of styles from first half to second half of games.

or is there some more sinister reason like instruction to umpires about future of Australia wide development of the Game. Heaven forbid.

 

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