Just now, daisycutter said:

good of the game = protecting the brand = covering our arses

Right on, DC ... 

Curiouser and curiouser.

On the one hand, Hal Hunter has to go to court in a vain attempt to find out what Essendon injected into his system and on the other, Dyson Heppell says, "I’m comfortable that I know what I was given."

Suspended Bomber Dyson Heppell says he feels let down by Essendon for drugs saga that saw suspension

Could they both be telling the truth?

Dyson Heppell: Dumb as dog [censored] and too stupid to realise he's being used a pawn by his club and the Essendon Apologists Society (NewsCorp).

Sad to see Gerard's clearly been neutered on this topic, after he went hard at Hird last year. Guess journalistic integrity takes a back seat when you want the cash flowing in your bank account.

Looking forward to iview!!!

9 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Curiouser and curiouser.

On the one hand, Hal Hunter has to go to court in a vain attempt to find out what Essendon injected into his system and on the other, Dyson Heppell says, "I’m comfortable that I know what I was given."

Suspended Bomber Dyson Heppell says he feels let down by Essendon for drugs saga that saw suspension

Could they both be telling the truth?

Didn't Bomber Thompson tell them that the thingy thermomodulin stuff that they were injected with will stop them from getting cancer?

You gotta believe Bomber, surely?

According to Heppell those that call them drug cheats are "uneducated on the situation "

Generic statements that he feels comfortable with what they were given and that it was 100% above board ... no further details to elaborate on that and why wada have it so wrong 

Delusion has now reached new heights 

Journalistic integrity gone out the window... These guys just let these deluded clowns deny their culpability without holding their denials and lies to some form of accountability . 

 

Another great Four Corners & hopefully more to come from players cases against the EFC/AFL.

EFC going Hunter for their legal costs........can the stench get any worse?

Nothing really new in the Four Corners report that we don't know already.

It's a pity the revelations made about what the players were probably injected with, is not something that will cause anyone to be charged criminally.

But on the programme:

Ben McDevitt from ASADA claimed peptides were sourced from Mexico, not New Mexico that Dank claims.

A player saw a vial marked with "for equine use only" before being injected.

A cocktail of peptides and vitamins included drugs used in the horse industry in the USA

Players were injected with drugs obtained by a muscular dystrophy patient overseas.

Peptides sourced from a research facility in china.  Approval given "not for human use".

Ziggy Switkowski in his original report to Essendon spoke of a pharmacological experiment.  He was right on that aspect.

 

Damning, just so damning.

Robbo said to Heppell words to the effect that the Club, AFL and ASADA had all told the players for the last two and a half years that they would be OK. Can anyone recall a report of ASADA saying that?  I can't.  If ASADA has not said that, where does that put Robbo? Is it defamatory or just typical Robbo crap? I think that tonight's exercise with Heppell was to parade him before the public, pretend to grill him, provide some BS answers just to clear this subject out of the way so that they could justify having him on the show.  My BS meter went off the charts.

Four Corners program was well done.  EFC now look even worse and listening to Heppell, I think we can expect that the suspended players remaining on their list will walk at seasons end. And after seeing it. any doubt that the appeal wasn't doomed is eradicated.

To not provide Hunter with a list of what they injected him with, and then pursue him for the legal costs when he takes them to court in an attempt to source such information...words fail me. It goes far beyond any residual dislike for the EFC. This conduct is contemptible on an objective level.

If there was a case for a clean out of the MFC at board and admin level on a competitive basis, what about doing the same at the EFC on an ethical basis?

 

Edited March 21, 20169 yr by P-man

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Curiouser and curiouser.

On the one hand, Hal Hunter has to go to court in a vain attempt to find out what Essendon injected into his system and on the other, Dyson Heppell says, "I’m comfortable that I know what I was given."

Suspended Bomber Dyson Heppell says he feels let down by Essendon for drugs saga that saw suspension

Could they both be telling the truth?

Possibly. Heppell seems to have drunk the Kool-Aid and swallowed the party line. Hunter seems to have at least questioned what he was given and why. 

3 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Just watched it too Jack. FMD, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The poor dumb [censored] still believes they were hard done by - an injustice. And what about the claim that they were given written assurances that everthing was legal and above board etc !!!!

I'm surprised that we are surprised. Four Corners, which incidentally IMHO did and excellent job with this story, made it very clear the players (and their parents) were systematically mislead by Essendon from beginning to end. In a sense it is even more morally reprehensible than the systematic drug cheating itself - clearly they were prepared to gamble on the long term health of these young men when they should have been in their physical prime, and then they were more than happy to cover it up in order to save their skins.......

And they are still at it. Time for another round of ASADA infraction notices me thinks, but this time target the real culprits.

i understand WADA feel most of their objectives have been met, and don't feel they can afford financially another round of going after the real cheats, given their busy (and expensive year) coming up at Rio, and in additional sports such as Tennis and Athletics. 

I understand  they feel they have made their point very successfully with Essendon. They also feel that when the likes of Hunter are successful, that the raft of litigation which follows will catch the real culprits - the AFL, Essendon and Hird in the legal netting. 

Lets hope so....

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

I missed it..cant get the ABC where I live. Anything new?

 

Try iview online - you can replay it anytime.

The bottom line is that the players should have said no.

And these pricks are going to play on ANZAC day. Yuk.

4 hours ago, biggestred said:

And these pricks are going to play on ANZAC day. Yuk.

I hope they get pumped by 30 goals and it is an empty stadium by half time.

7 hours ago, Redlegs Too said:

Robbo said to Heppell words to the effect that the Club, AFL and ASADA had all told the players for the last two and a half years that they would be OK. Can anyone recall a report of ASADA saying that?  I can't.  If ASADA has not said that, where does that put Robbo? Is it defamatory or just typical Robbo crap? I think that tonight's exercise with Heppell was to parade him before the public, pretend to grill him, provide some BS answers just to clear this subject out of the way so that they could justify having him on the show.  My BS meter went off the charts.

Four Corners program was well done.  EFC now look even worse and listening to Heppell, I think we can expect that the suspended players remaining on their list will walk at seasons end. And after seeing it. any doubt that the appeal wasn't doomed is eradicated.

ASADA did not say that ...  there was a suggestion very early on in the piece that someone from ASADA might have used words of comfort on AOD9604 but Robbo should know that doesn't equate with the players being told they would be OK for two and a half years. The drug that they were charged with and found guilty of taking was TB4. The reality is that the claim that everything was OK was a con and it's been used very effectively to placate and keep on board dead heads like Heppell who one day might wake up and realise he's been taken for a ride.

Redlegs Too

Robbo is just crap

Something that I don't think has dawned to the many a Bomber supporter who think at long last despite the bans at least it's all over.....well...its actually only just starting.

We are already seeing the disenfranchised starting to grumble. This will escalate into all out legal warfare.

Still...still incredulously the Windy Hiller's think they can contain it in settlements. But not all will settle. Some will have real and decent legal representation and non alligned to boot.

 

14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Something that I don't think has dawned to the many a Bomber supporter who think at long last despite the bans at least it's all over.....well...its actually only just starting.

We are already seeing the disenfranchised starting to grumble. This will escalate into all out legal warfare.

Still...still incredulously the Windy Hiller's think they can contain it in settlements. But not all will settle. Some will have real and decent legal representation and non alligned to boot.

 

I'm interested to see how it all plays out as I still think there are the brainwashed, who still seem to be toeing the company line.

I don't have Foxtel and didn't see the Heppell interview but I'm confused by the reporting of his position in the news.  On one hand Heppell says he knows what he was given and that is was all OK but on the other hand he says he feels let down by the club?

16 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I don't have Foxtel and didn't see the Heppell interview but I'm confused by the reporting of his position in the news.  On one hand Heppell says he knows what he was given and that is was all OK but on the other hand he says he feels let down by the club?

Suffice to say.....you're not the one confused 

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

I'm interested to see how it all plays out as I still think there are the brainwashed, who still seem to be toeing the company line.

A real element to life, as exampled in how this is playing out , is not everyone can actually stand up for themselves especially when it matters most.

19 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I don't have Foxtel and didn't see the Heppell interview but I'm confused by the reporting of his position in the news.  On one hand Heppell says he knows what he was given and that is was all OK but on the other hand he says he feels let down by the club?

Cognitive dissonance in action.He's struggling to reconcile that the club did something to him, something bad, but he loves the club and knows it wouldn't do anything bad.

At some stage (and it may take a long time ... years) he will work out that the club has betrayed him.