NATIONAL DRAFT PICKS 3 & 7

[MadAsHell 4,217]

Milera??

Would also have to come into consideration. For mine though, given we already have Garlett, Kent, Kennedy & Kennedy-Harris on the list, both Tucker & Oliver fit our current needs more then Milera for now. Very good young player though.

[Demon_JB 1,389]

Everyone keeps saying we are desperate for mids which I think is incorrect. We are desperate for ready made mids to help our core nucleolus of mids. We have viney, petracca, Salem, brayshaw, vandenberg, melksham pick 3 this year most likely parish, Salem, trengove waiting, and for depth we have been Kennedy who can play mid, michie, Newton and more. I don't think we are desperate for mids from the draft. We are desperate for mids like Tyson or Vince.

[CBDees 3,167]

Frankly I would like to see us pick up two (Victorian-based) mates like we did last year. Both Parish and Curnow have played together with Geelong Falcons / Vic Country and are both handy players in two areas where we still have a need!

[Ron Burgundy 8,588]

I hope the club gets the hardest, strongest, competitive beast at pick 7 ala Joel Selwood and Ollie Wines (who were both picked at 7).

No project player stuff. Just a percentage play on the non negotiables.

[MadAsHell 4,217]

Frankly I would like to see us pick up two (Victorian-based) mates like we did last year. Both Francis and Curnow have played together with Geelong Falcons / Vic Country and are both handy players in two areas where we still have a need!

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Francis from SA?

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Francis from SA?

Frankly I would like to see us pick up two (Victorian-based) mates like we did last year. Both Francis and Curnow have played together with Geelong Falcons / Vic Country and are both handy players in two areas where we still have a need!

I believe you're confusing Parish and Francis

[Mad_Melbourne 877]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Francis from SA?

Far country Victoria, closer to SA than Melbourne, then got a scholarship to a school out Adelaide way.

AFL website video on the draft players is pretty interesting!

[rpfc 28,968]

There's no Petreccas or Brayshaws in this draft there's spuds surely an AFL expert like yourself can see that.

Only one draft can have "Petreccas (sic) and Brayshaws" and we have them, and, again, if there are those players next year - we wouldn't have access to them or do you think we will be worse than Carlton, Ess, and BL?

And, everytime 'we' experts tell you this draft is this or that - there is always quality players that come from it, and from outside the top ten.

So stop looking for excuses as to why 'we will/have screw/ed this one up'...

This doesn't have to end in tears.

[bing181 9,436]

Hmm ... been a bit of hoovering going on.

[CBDees 3,167]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't Francis from SA?

Now corrected.

[CBDees 3,167]

I believe you're confusing Parish and Francis

Corrected. My fingers got tangled!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,094]

Reminds me of a Malthouse comment. He said it doesn't matter where in the draft they go, because every kid in the draft can play. What matters is how you develop them once they're at the club.

Just had a look at them myself. The kid could really play. Clean hands, good evasive skills, good vision and disposal.

Perhaps explains Carlton's trading and drafting strategy prior to this year. (Having said that, in some respects he is right. It's just that the probability of success decreases as you drift down the draft order.)

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Reminds me of a Malthouse comment. He said it doesn't matter where in the draft they go, because every kid in the draft can play. What matters is how you develop them once they're at the club.

There's a reason Malthouse isn't coaching anymore.

All kids look good at junior level because they are playing against other kids. Some kids will stand up in AFL level and some won't irrespective of how well they are developed.

[Dee-licious 1,954]

Latest from Brett Anderson:

• Parish no lock at 3. Thinks we are looking heavily at Curnow
• 7 apparently we are looking at Collins (Curnow - Collins double)
• Francis might make it to Adelaide at pick 9 as Essendon arent too keen on taking him. Thinking that Parish makes it to them and they pick up one of Curnow or Weiderman.
• Balic wont be taken at 7

I just dont see why we need Collins. He is great, but that means we are thinking that one of Frost, McDonald or McDonald will be a key forward.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

I just dont see why we need Collins. He is great, but that means we are thinking that one of Frost, McDonald or McDonald will be a key forward.

He's guessing like the rest of us. I wouldn't be worrying too much about what people like Anderson are saying.

[Frank Grimes 121]

Latest from Brett Anderson:

• Parish no lock at 3. Thinks we are looking heavily at Curnow
• 7 apparently we are looking at Collins (Curnow - Collins double)
• Francis might make it to Adelaide at pick 9 as Essendon arent too keen on taking him. Thinking that Parish makes it to them and they pick up one of Curnow or Weiderman.
• Balic wont be taken at 7

I just dont see why we need Collins. He is great, but that means we are thinking that one of Frost, McDonald or McDonald will be a key forward.

Interesting stuff. Makes you realise the drafts not as locked in as we all seem to think at this stage.

I can see the appeal of Collins, we played Frost forward quite a bit at the start of the year and I see him becoming a tall utility more than a key defender. As for Oscar McDonald, we are absolutely no guarantee he will make it which leaves us with only Tom as our only established key back when Dunn retires.

[Gator 18,031]

Parish, Curnow, whoever.

The first time in a long time I'm completely at ease with who we take.

[Willmoy1947 4,229]

These "tipsters" all picked that we would have 3 and 7 as well.....

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,094]

Interesting stuff. Makes you realise the drafts not as locked in as we all seem to think at this stage.

I can see the appeal of Collins, we played Frost forward quite a bit at the start of the year and I see him becoming a tall utility more than a key defender. As for Oscar McDonald, we are absolutely no guarantee he will make it which leaves us with only Tom as our only established key back when Dunn retires.

In fact, I don't even think Dunn is a true key position defender. Don't get me wrong, though. He has played very well since being given that role. It's just that he's not tall or big enough to go with the really tall or strong forwards. I think we have only one proven key position defender in Tom McDonald, although Sam Frost and Oscar McDonald may yet add to the list.

[ChaserJ 5,189]

Latest from Brett Anderson:

• Parish no lock at 3. Thinks we are looking heavily at Curnow
• 7 apparently we are looking at Collins (Curnow - Collins double)
• Francis might make it to Adelaide at pick 9 as Essendon arent too keen on taking him. Thinking that Parish makes it to them and they pick up one of Curnow or Weiderman.
• Balic wont be taken at 7

I just dont see why we need Collins. He is great, but that means we are thinking that one of Frost, McDonald or McDonald will be a key forward.

A few journo's have mentioned that Parish isn't a lock and Curnow and Weideman are in the mix (IMO Weideman behind the other two), so think there's a little bit in that information.

Have heard from elsewhere that Collins is in the mix, so think Brett has some reasonable mail there too. I think we'd love to get a quick, classy mid, but the priority is key forward, and there's a feeling that we need to nab a key back too. Oscar Mc and Frost may make it, but I've no doubt that Collins offers far more in terms of contested ability and rebound out of defence. He's a good decision maker and hits targets coming out of defence. Haven't seen so much of that from Frost at this stage.

in number terms, our midfield actually doesn't look too bad now:

Starting mids

Nathan Jones

Dom Tyson

Bernie Vince

Jack Viney

Relievers

Angus Brayshaw

Christian Salem

Aaron vandenBerg

Christian Petracca

Jack Trengove

Ben Newton

Jake Melksham

Ben Kennedy

Billy Stretch

Alex Neal-Bullen

Tom Bugg

Viv Michie

Matt Jones

Potentially:

Kennedy-Harris

Kent

[PaulRB 6,435]

With almost a month till Draft Day we're going to hear every possibility rolled out as our pick for 3 and 7... It's the nature of the media to spew out vaguely irresistible [censored]-bits for us obsessive saps to chew on...

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Parish, Curnow, whoever.

The first time in a long time I'm completely at ease with who we take.

I felt more comfortable with Brayshaw and Petracca and even then I was nervous.

[olisik 4,060]

Would be [censored] if we took Curnow at 3.

Pure speculative pick. We would regret it big time. Can't play as a key forward, can't play as a mid.

He only averages 14 touches a game, is not worth a pick 3.

Pick 3s belong to game changes and players who can really rip a game open. Not a 2 goal 3rd tall who doesn't even know his own position

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Would be [censored] if we took Curnow at 3.

Pure speculative pick. We would regret it big time. Can't play as a key forward, can't play as a mid.

He only averages 14 touches a game, is not worth a pick 3.

Pick 3s belong to game changes and players who can really rip a game open. Not a 2 goal 3rd tall who doesn't even know his own position

What are you basing this on?

[dazzledavey36 55,997]

What are you basing this on?

Youtube clips.. duh