didn't dustin fletcher knock back a recognition lap of honour at the gf too?

I don't think there been a more controversy marred final season from a future Hall of Fame player. As a player he had so much great ability and adaptability to the modern game, he was versatile and skillful, and as he showed in the 2012 GF could be a game changer even carrying an injury.

It's sad to see that his other side take away from such a great player, some of it I agreed with some of it I didn't. I certainly didn't agree with his final treatment towards the end. I can understand why he has turned down the opportunity to be a part of the motorcade, it could hijack the entire week and my gut tells me he would be booed, even if it was a minority, it would be a bad look for him and the day. I wish he had made the call earlier so he could be chaired off by his teammates and cheered by the Sydney fans, he deserved that much.

Well done for a fantastic career.

(Also haven't forgiven him for elbowing Simon Godfrey behind the ball! )

Interestingly enough - if you look at Australian of the year - 8 have been indigenous Australian.

I would suggest that 4 of them gained fame directly through their work with Indigenous communities. 3 were sportsmen who gained fame through sport and and also worked with/ brought attention to Indigenous issues. The other being the singer with Yothu Yindi. It is pure guesswork either way as to whether Goodes would have gained the traction he did if not for his football profile as their is evidence to support both opinions in the list.

As to his football - a champion, no doubt but will always sit in the bunch with the champions like Chris Judd's who few blemishes just didn't sit right with me. To me Leigh Matthews was the best footballer I have ever seen but I wouldn't call him an "ornament to the game" as he also had some blemishes. I use Robbie Flower as my benchmark - a champion football both in skill, application and the way he went about it at all times.

His effort in the 2012 GF was incredible

Goodes had the perfect "Tank" for the Fwd line or the Back line

Personally i wish he had not been made Australian of the Year. I don't think any Sports Person should be that.

Scientists, Doctors or Fireman etc are the recipents of such awards.

Will be interesting to see what he does now

I am sure he is sweating on the MRP findings from last night

It was a pretty ordinary piece of play....

The MRP set their precedent last week for kicking or fending off with the feet.......until some poor bugger gets his leg broken, then in their typical reactionary manner they will come down hard (depending of course on who is the assailant and for whom they play and what time in the season it occurs) stating that fending off with the feet in unacceptable and un-Australian and deserves the harshest penalty.

Edited September 21, 20159 yr by monoccular

I am not going to allow this conversation to be dictated to by bigots.

This thread was opened as a tribute to a great Australian and a great footballer.

Don't bother posting if you intend to sink into the mire as LG mentioned above.

If you do, it could well be your last post here.

didn't dustin fletcher knock back a recognition lap of honour at the gf too?

I think it was at the last game of the year For Essendrug dc.

Not certain but confident.

I am not going to allow this conversation to be dictated to by bigots.

This thread was opened as a tribute to a great Australian and a great footballer.

Don't bother posting if you intend to sink into the mire as LG mentioned above.

If you do, it could well be your last post here.

May I be as bold as to ask yourself why we dont have an area for NON Melbourne players..an AFL board perhaps

This isnt about Melb..its not about trading.. is it

we need a General AFL board or similar I suggest for all the stuff that ISNT Melbourne..and isnt about trade

I for one am sick to death of reading about this bloke. I know I dont have to ..and thats easier if not here..just saying

So we need to create an entirely separate board so that you're not tempted to read threads which sicken you to death?

Hard to argue with that kind of compelling logic.

So we need to create an entirely separate board so that you're not tempted to read threads which sicken you to death?

Hard to argue with that kind of compelling logic.

theres plenty of threads which would be better located in a general AFL board. Other forums have it.. can you address the actual question without prejudice

keep in mind the description of this Board

Melbourne Demons

Talk about the greatest Football Club in the World .... The Melbourne Demons

Edited September 21, 20159 yr by beelzebub

May I be as bold as to ask yourself why we dont have an area for NON Melbourne players..an AFL board perhaps

This isnt about Melb..its not about trading.. is it

You may be so bold. The Melbourne Demons are part of a competition of 18 clubs so it's appropriate to discuss them as part of the competition just as we have discussed issues such as the Essendon drug scandal here. In regard to the latter, I don't recall anyone arguing for a separate board although it might have happened.

theres plenty of threads which would be better located in a general AFL board. Other forums have it.. can you address the actual question without prejudice

keep in mind the description of this Board

Melbourne Demons

Talk about the greatest Football Club in the World .... The Melbourne Demons

Spare me. Don't go the the thread if it is a problem for you. As WJ said this is a thread to celebrate one of the greats. I for one never go to the general boards and to bury it there would be an insult.

Spare me. Don't go the the thread if it is a problem for you. As WJ said this is a thread to celebrate one of the greats. I for one never go to the general boards and to bury it there would be an insult.

I didn't actually know there is a general AFL board, I thought it was just general topics of discussion but most AFL discussion goes here anyway. I honestly don't see why this is an issue.

theres plenty of threads which would be better located in a general AFL board. Other forums have it.. can you address the actual question without prejudice

keep in mind the description of this Board

Melbourne Demons

Talk about the greatest Football Club in the World .... The Melbourne Demons

This board has been used for general AFL topics for a very long time without any objections I'm aware of. The No T$ No B$ Thread has been running for 4 years! And yet it's this thread you object to. I get it.

This board has been used for general AFL topics for a very long time without any objections I'm aware of. The No T$ No B$ Thread has been running for 4 years! And yet it's this thread you object to. I get it.

I thought its possibly time to look at moving all NON core threads to an AFL one..thats my opinion. WJ has ruled , so be it

Adam Goodes is a legend. Well done . Had a great career, good luck in the future. Close thread.

Adam Goodes is a legend. Well done . Had a great career, good luck in the future. Close thread.

No you can scoot along now you have had your 2 cents worth, as WJ said this is a thread dedicating to a fantastic footballer and bloke. I am sure there are many more on here who want to write a tribute still.

Would Sam Kekovich have ever been Lambassador of Australia if not for football?

Adam Goodes is now to some, but will truly come to historically represent the most iconic figure in Australian Rules Football since Tom Wills as the nominated creator of the game.

As a man of both Indigenous and Colonial heritage, in a game which by many is considered to have some roots in the Indigenous game of Marngrook filtered through a British sporting awareness, he perfectly harmonised those two influences.

As the figurehead of all that is remarkable about the percentage over-representation (~ 8 times) of indigenous players in our only indigenous national sport, he was twice awarded the best and fairest player in the land. As some have stated here, he was arguably the perfect fit for our game, and the perfect example of an indigenous talent. Skill, size, strength, speed, endurance, and durability, with a mercurial awareness and an inspirational influence on his teammates, he played for and captained the first club of the modern era, The Sydney Swans. A club from the birthplace of the game, the first to take the premier competition to the whole nation, he won two premierships with that pioneering club, and after decades without the ultimate prize.

He remained a one club player, which is still and will remain a measure of loyalty despite growing commercialisation.

He was awarded Australian Of The Year for everything that he unconsciously represents (sorry stuie, but footy is at the heart of his award, and rightfully so) and has chosen to represent.

Make no mistake, Adam Goodes is monumental to and exemplary of everything that this game is, and strives to be.

It's our privilege that we saw him play and create history.

Honestly, this fawning is just pathetic.

Honestly, this fawning is just pathetic.

While I don't necessarily agree with the line you bolded (I think Nicky Winmar's raising of his jumper made him possibly a greater icon), Goodes will certainly go down in AFL history as one of the greatest. As far as the your statement regarding the fawning over Goodes being pathetic, it is light years ahead (in worthiness) of the constant belittling of Goodes and his achievements; now that IS pathetic.

While I don't necessarily agree with the line you bolded (I think Nicky Winmar's raising of his jumper made him possibly a greater icon), Goodes will certainly go down in AFL history as one of the greatest. As far as the your statement regarding the fawning over Goodes being pathetic, it is light years ahead (in worthiness) of the constant belittling of Goodes and his achievements; now that IS pathetic.

In fariness to those that have criticised Goodes I haven't seen any that have criticised Goodes for his playing career.

In fariness to those that have criticised Goodes I haven't seen any that have criticised Goodes for his playing career.

Well said, no one can fault his playing career.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/adam-goodes-declines-grand-final-lap-of-honour-for-fear-of-being-booed/story-fni5fan7-1227535950399

Declined a lap of honour... "for fear of being booed"

Whatever your stance on Goodes, start of the fourth paragraph "The dual Brownlow winner has always avoided the limelight"....

Well said, no one can fault his playing career.

well he was a very goode player but human i say...wasnt above the occasional dog act to tell the truth.

No one will want to to hear that and besmirch a demi-goode eh.

He on his day was a very goode ..no a very very goode player but lets not get carried away.

Edited September 21, 20159 yr by beelzebub

well he was a very goode player but human i say...wasnt above the occasional dog act to tell the truth.

No one will want to to hear that and besmirch a demi-goode eh.

He on his day was a very goode ..no a very very goode player but lets not get carried away.

Apparently we are not allowed to criticise him in this thread, I would not be suprised to see your post deleted by WJ because of the section I have highlighted from your post...

Henrietta, your earlier post was disgraceful.

WJ was right to delete it, wrong to not boot you off the site.