Changes v Bulldogs

[bandicoot 1,395]

Out michie/m jones

In Salem

We have missed his class all season

Best kick in the team

[JV7 2,339]

I'm no Matt Jones fan but he was good today.. No way he'll be dropped. Michie wasn't too bad. Lumumba should be copping the most heat but he won't. May aswell keep M.Jones & Michie in they are playing for their careers... Not sure how Salem or any of the others went at Casey though

[Nasher 33,133]

If Salem is match fit now, he should be in.

Any of the "big three" to go - Grimes, Michie and Matt Jones, though in my mind they were all okay today. Agree with the comment above that H should be in the gun but won't be.

[deeflog 679]

OUT- lumumba

IN- Salem

[bandicoot 1,395]

There is no way H goes out.

We also need to consider that there was a flu going around the club. Wouldn't surprise me if a third of the side was sick.

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[Moneider96 1,045]

Vandeberg in? Stringer will be a massive out for the dogs.

Edited August 9, 2015 by Moneider96

[chook fowler 18,332]

There is no way H goes out.

We also need to consider that there was a flu going around the club. Wouldn't surprise me if a third of the side was sick.

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He did look a bit pale.

[stuie 7,374]

You guys just want to keep changing the same names around no matter how they play. Jones, Grimes, and Michie (none of which I'm a fan of) were not our worst today.

If we're actually going by today's game, and not the usual player bias:

OUT: Garland, Garlett, Harmes

Jeffy dropped a sitter of a mark that ended up being the turning point in the game. He also had as many touches, tackles, and goals as the sub.

Matt Jones had a better game than both of Vince and Jones.

Culture is meant to be about who IS performing, not who has the talent to perform.

[monoccular 16,281]

Surely it will depend a bit on who was 'under the weather' today with the virus, and if it was as widespread as rumoured then it may be a matter of last man standing.

Also I haven't seen the better player list at Casey, though it seems the team had a shocker - again, maybe, partly virus induced.

If on player is viral, keep him away and don't ff. play him: if many are there may sometimes be no choice.

[bandicoot 1,395]

No idea which dimwit at the club gave m jones a contract extension until the end of 2016.

His kick at goal from 45 landed 20 short.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,470]

You guys just want to keep changing the same names around no matter how they play. Jones, Grimes, and Michie (none of which I'm a fan of) were not our worst today.

If we're actually going by today's game, and not the usual player bias:

OUT: Garland, Garlett, Harmes

Jeffy dropped a sitter of a mark that ended up being the turning point in the game. He also had as many touches, tackles, and goals as the sub.

Matt Jones had a better game than both of Vince and Jones.

Culture is meant to be about who IS performing, not who has the talent to perform.

Based on your last line:

Out: Stuie

In: Inanimate object

Garlett out? FM, one bad game and you want to drop him.

[Nasher 33,133]

You guys just want to keep changing the same names around no matter how they play. Jones, Grimes, and Michie (none of which I'm a fan of) were not our worst today.

If we're actually going by today's game, and not the usual player bias:

OUT: Garland, Garlett, Harmes

Jeffy dropped a sitter of a mark that ended up being the turning point in the game. He also had as many touches, tackles, and goals as the sub.

Matt Jones had a better game than both of Vince and Jones.

Culture is meant to be about who IS performing, not who has the talent to perform.

Stu, I reckon the only thing worse than having the same players in the revolving door is making changes based on a sample size of one game. Suggesting to drop Garlett is dead set laughable. He wasn't clean with the ball, he dropped a sitter etc, sure, but surely he's got the credits up his sleeve to be given some benefit of the doubt.

You make changes that made the side better - that's why the same old names keep getting tossed up, because on balance they're the worst players in the side. There's no way there are better players than Garland and Garlett kicking about in the VFL at the moment. I'd say the same is true for Harmes at the moment, too.

[chook fowler 18,332]

Based on your last line:

Out: Stuie

In: Inanimate object

Garlett out? FM, one bad game and you want to drop him.

To be fair it has been more than 1 poor game. He goes missing too often.

[Biffen 12,380]

Dunn is hopeless.

No speed.

No Strength.

Got beaten by Cloke then that red headed [censored] from North.

Ten minutes of shyte.

Game over.

I acknowledge this is also the midfielders who lost it.

This was exactly the replay of Collingwood game(first time)

Players come out unprepared then waste 20,000 peoples' time.

[deanox 8,716]

You guys just want to keep changing the same names around no matter how they play. Jones, Grimes, and Michie (none of which I'm a fan of) were not our worst today.

If we're actually going by today's game, and not the usual player bias:

OUT: Garland, Garlett, Harmes

Jeffy dropped a sitter of a mark that ended up being the turning point in the game. He also had as many touches, tackles, and goals as the sub.

Matt Jones had a better game than both of Vince and Jones.

Culture is meant to be about who IS performing, not who has the talent to perform.

Stu i reckon there are 3 key principles to think about during selection, in the following order:

Pick your best players

Form (and fitness)

Match ups

That is the precedent. To push out a player who is better than you they need to be horribly out of form and you need to be belting it.

To get selected based on match ups (i.e. extra tall) you need to be in form and able to push out a best 22 player, based on that form.

Obviously different players have different standings. So to push our Hogan is harder than pushing out Howe, for example.

Right now, I believe the reason it is only the bottom couple that keep getting swapped is because Roos has settled on which players will be part of our squad of 40 in a few years and which won't be. The "won'ts" have been rotated. Gawn has replaced Jamar on form but is now best 22.

There is little value in dropping someone who is otherwise best 22 unless someone has seriously good form.

Further, by keeping the core 22 together for ad many games as possible they develop synergy and learn to play ads a team. Constant changes will disrupt that

[Ethan Tremblay 28,470]

To be fair it has been more than 1 poor game. He goes missing too often.

33 goals this year when his career best is 40.

He kicked 2 last week, 1 before that, then 2, 1, 4.

I agree he can go missing but he doesn't deserve to be dropped.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

We desperately miss another tall defender in Frost.

[Nasher 33,133]

To be fair it has been more than 1 poor game. He goes missing too often.

He's a small forward. Surely going missing a bit is just part of the gig?

Even at his worst, he is still dangerous. If he'd swallowed that mark he may have had two goals today - I'd take a crap day with two goals over anything we've got kicking about in the VFL.

[chook fowler 18,332]

He's a small forward. Surely going missing a bit is just part of the gig?

Even at his worst, he is still dangerous. If he'd swallowed that mark he may have had two goals today - I'd take a crap day with two goals over anything we've got kicking about in the VFL.

Agree but that clanger combined with the other easy miss rubbed salt into the wounds.

[Biffen 12,380]

We desperately miss another tall defender in Frost.

Agreed- Dunn is a fat , slow hack.

[monoccular 16,281]

Based on your last line:

Out: Stuie

In: Inanimate object

Garlett out? FM, one bad game and you want to drop him.

To be fair it has been more than 1 poor game. He goes missing too often.

chook - thought for a moment that you were referring to stuie going missing too often. Many would say not often enough :-)

But I agree re Garlett - he has contributed a lot. One poor game (possibly related to illness don't forget) does not merit his being dropped. Silly knee-jerk suggestion.

[Winners at last 4,790]

Demons lost centre clearances 8 - 1 in the first quarter. VDB wasn't playing. Garlett hadn't had a touch. Why the hell wasn't he put in the centre square for a couple of the ball ups? He's done that before to good effect. (Yeah, yeah, the coach knows more than me!!!!)

[Pennant St Dee 11,351]

Doggies at Etihad so seriosly have to have runners and players who are going to apply pressure over 4 quarters. Matty Jones stays was decent today, I think Lumumba is seriously under the pump runs into trouble and his disposal is terrible, unless he can break the lines and deliver it in quickly to Hogan and Dawes he has no use in the team. Michie will come under the microscope, he wasn't terrible but don't think the Etihad track will suit.

Jetta Dunn Garland

Howe Tmac Salem

Watts Viney Cross

Brayshaw Dawes Vince

Garlett Hogan ANB

Gawn, Tyson, N.Jones

I/C M.Jones, Grimes, Harmes & Vandenburg if fit

Edited August 9, 2015 by Pennant St Dee

[Moneider96 1,045]

Will VDB be alright for next week?

[chook fowler 18,332]

Will VDB be alright for next week?

He would have been very handy today