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Just in case you missed it.... clubs now free to trade future draft picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.html

Interesting to see how clubs may assess what that future pick may actually be worth. Might also help if the club doesn't want to offer up two early picks in the same draft.

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Adds another element to future season support as Should the MFC trade its first 2016 pick to GWS for a player, GWS will have a view on where the MFC will finish (i.e. the value of this first pick), and will be hoping we finish as low as possible, and suffering if we were to bounce up the ladder (reducing the value of their pick).

Whole new dimension of strategy required by all clubs in order to manage and profit from this new element.

Just in case you missed it.... clubs now free to trade future draft picks.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.html

Interesting to see how clubs may assess what that future pick may actually be worth. Might also help if the club doesn't want to offer up two early picks in the same draft.

Fascinating. I wonder if Roos had an inkling this rule would be passed for this year? Is this how he intends to get this A+er into the club? I'd use our 2016 first rounder for Prestia if we really like someone in the draft this year.

 

Adds another element to future season support as Should the MFC trade its first 2016 pick to GWS for a player, GWS will have a view on where the MFC will finish (i.e. the value of this first pick), and will be hoping we finish as low as possible, and suffering if we were to bounce up the ladder (reducing the value of their pick).

Whole new dimension of strategy required by all clubs in order to manage and profit from this new element.

Not with protected picks.

Picks will likely be top 5 or top 10 protected, more often than not.


Fascinating. I wonder if Roos had an inkling this rule would be passed for this year? Is this how he intends to get this A+er into the club? I'd use our 2016 first rounder for Prestia if we really like someone in the draft this year.

Bringing Prestia and Weideman onto the list, for instance, would be a great boon for the club.

It will be interesting to see the rules of future pick trades.

Can you simply trade for picks?

Eg. Hawks think they are travelling very well, they trade their first and second round pick this year to Port for their first two picks next year.

That would give Port a good influx of talent now when they need it and then Hawks would have 4 early picks next year.

I know that next years talent is suppose to be better. I'm just using this as a potential scenario.

It will be interesting to see the rules of future pick trades.

Yes the article wasn't exactly clear about a few details. It appears there are certain safeguards for clubs trading away all their next years early picks - but isn't clear on whether a club can trade both its first round picks in the same trade period. It certainly introduces a further dimension of risk into the trade - but chance favours the prepared and I feel my confidence in our recruiting team now is a lot more justified than it has been in the past.

 

I just had a look, you're right.

Out of interest, what did you think of Garland's performance today?

I'd absolutely re-sign Garland. He's an important for us.

Howe? There seems to be a gap between his view of his worth to the team, and his actual worth to the team. Suspect he has a greedy manager who's giving him bad advice.

Would trade him for a first round pick or a really decent midfielder, but nothing less.

I'd absolutely re-sign Garland. He's an important for us.

Yes but why do you see him as important?

I asked how you think he played on the weekend?

Why do you think he's more important to hold onto when compared to someone like Frawley? Regardless of the different levels of compo.

What is he actually contributing as far as positive change goes for the club?

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Umm I think you need to re read the thread.

It was my comment and I just added "and a war dance".

Did it not take place?

I just add it to the stat's listed.

Butter wouldn't melt in your mouth, old dee.

Interesting article or eos player moves: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-30/staying-or-going-this-years-afl-exchange-period-previewed?utm_medium=RSS

Regarding Howe:
"The high-flying utility has put off contract talks with the Demons...and his future remains clouded...a number of other clubs are believed to be monitoring him carefully. Industry sources suggest Howe could attract rival offers of up to $600,000 a season, which Melbourne is unlikely to match."

Another indication that he is Gone!

As an aside, notice the ridiculously low figures for Motlop $500+k and Suckling $400k.

Would take either in a heartbeat.

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Interesting article or eos player moves: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-30/staying-or-going-this-years-afl-exchange-period-previewed?utm_medium=RSS

Regarding Howe: "The high-flying utility has put off contract talks with the Demons...and his future remains clouded...a number of other clubs are believed to be monitoring him carefully. Industry sources suggest Howe could attract rival offers of up to $600,000 a season, which Melbourne is unlikely to match."

Another indication that he is Gone!

As an aside, notice the ridiculously low figures for Motlop $500+k and Suckling $400k.

Would take either in a heartbeat.

If other clubs were actually monitoring him they'd realise he isn't worth $600k.

If other clubs were actually monitoring him they'd realise he isn't worth $600k.

Reason he is worth more then suckling and motlop is because he is a good utility. Supply and demand comes into play and their are always alot more midfielders on the market then their are decent utilities who can play both forward and back.

I find it amazing that someone can get $600k per year over several years for arguably being an average sportsperson in the level they play. I understand it's the nature of the competition, supply and demand, they train hard, put their bodies on the line and yadda, yadda, yadda.... But seriously, $600k p/a, that's a shiteload of dosh! Has the competition grown too big too fast, is there too much money involved, are we expecting too much from young men? I shake my head every time I read of the money involved and wonder if we've created a monster (queue Frankenstein gif from Song).

Sorry, rant over.


I find it amazing that someone can get $600k per year over several years for arguably being an average sportsperson in the level they play. I understand it's the nature of the competition, supply and demand, they train hard, put their bodies on the line and yadda, yadda, yadda.... But seriously, $600k p/a, that's a shiteload of dosh! Has the competition grown too big too fast, is there too much money involved, are we expecting too much from young men? I shake my head every time I read of the money involved and wonder if we've created a monster (queue Frankenstein gif from Song).

Sorry, rant over.

I wouldn't get too excited about players wages......The money that players get is unknown except for the player, the club, the player manager

All monies quoted in the media are complete guesswork unless you have a peek at their group certificate.

Just all media hype

Interesting article or eos player moves: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-30/staying-or-going-this-years-afl-exchange-period-previewed?utm_medium=RSS

Regarding Howe: "The high-flying utility has put off contract talks with the Demons...and his future remains clouded...a number of other clubs are believed to be monitoring him carefully. Industry sources suggest Howe could attract rival offers of up to $600,000 a season, which Melbourne is unlikely to match."

Another indication that he is Gone!

As an aside, notice the ridiculously low figures for Motlop $500+k and Suckling $400k.

Would take either in a heartbeat.

Wouldn't pay anywhere near 600k for Howe. 500k for Motlop however..

Reason he is worth more then suckling and motlop is because he is a good utility. Supply and demand comes into play and their are always alot more midfielders on the market then their are decent utilities who can play both forward and back.

So again, why is Jeremy Howe worth more?

Id be offering a truckload of cash to treloar

I wouldn't get too excited about players wages......The money that players get is unknown except for the player, the club, the player managerAll monies quoted in the media are complete guesswork unless you have a peek at their group certificate.Just all media hype

You're correct of course Boss, $600k might or might not be what the offer is, and we'll never know exactly. However due to the ever increasing SC, there must be a number of average AFL footballers earning around that mark, which was part of the point I was making


I think that is absolutely crazy. This guy was AA a few weeks ago, so we know he can play.

And Oscar says hello .

While I don't think we would trade Tommy, WTF has Oscar got to do with any of this, Redleg?

Far from some of your best work.

Adds another element to future season support as Should the MFC trade its first 2016 pick to GWS for a player, GWS will have a view on where the MFC will finish (i.e. the value of this first pick), and will be hoping we finish as low as possible, and suffering if we were to bounce up the ladder (reducing the value of their pick).

Whole new dimension of strategy required by all clubs in order to manage and profit from this new element.

adds a new dimension with trading with GWS, GCS, the Cats, etc :)

Id be offering a truckload of cash to treloar

Any word on whether we have?

 

Any word on whether we have?

It's a bit ominous at the moment. Apparently Collingwood and North are frontrunners. Haven't heard anything about the Dees yet.

It's a bit ominous at the moment. Apparently Collingwood and North are frontrunners. Haven't heard anything about the Dees yet.

Don't mind that though, you never know what we're planning. The Tyson trade came out of nowhere, so something like that could happen again this season. Fingers crossed.


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