I don't really care for the order of the finish just how many ran PB's that is the sign of improvement.

As much as its good to see the likes of Howe and Viney up gotta remember that Jones Bail and Cross didn't run today. And also Dan Nicholson who is normally top 2 every year.

True. Although in the video it seemed Howe was only about 4 secs behind McDonlad, with Viney 5 second behind again.

That's pretty damn good for those guys (even if Tmac admitted to running a slow-ish time)

Tommy Mac is a gun and with the recruitment of Frost, our back line is really taking shape.

Notwithstanding some posters wanted to put Tommy on the trade table.

Is there a player on our list that some posters have not wanted to trade?......Some just to get a better draft pick, which we have been crap at for the past 6 years.

Looking at the video you can also see Hogan, Salem and M Jones not far behind (plus one other - maybe Newton?)

Newton probably wont be at training for another week or so.

Remember his team obviously played off in the Prelim meaning he gets an extra couple of weeks rest.

Why didn't Jones run?

<cue panic> <cue MFCSS>

Video of todays 3km time trial

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-11-07/3km-time-trial-tom-mcdonald

Tom McDonald won

but the big surprise was Jeremy Howe came 2nd

Do you think so? Howe just looks like a natural athlete to me.

Super fit.

Why didn't Jones run?

<cue panic> <cue MFCSS>

Because he didn't have to, he doesn't start officially for another week, Roh Bail told me on Wednesday he wouldn't be taking part as he is not one of the 1 to 4 year players, doubt if any of the 'senior' players participated

Do you think so? Howe just looks like a natural athlete to me.

Super fit.

Wasn't a surprise to me, spoke to him on Wednesday, did a lot of work in off season, all the players have turned up in top nick

Was Hogan sighted?

You mean some players might turn up with a guide dog? Would explain a few things ...

No, he was blind!

Well, allow me to rephrase my question in a less ambiguous manner

Was he seen by any witnesses from this site doing anything that may indicate that he is free of back problems?

Well, allow me to rephrase my question in a less ambiguous manner

Was he seen by any witnesses from this site doing anything that may indicate that he is free of back problems?

Given he was reported to have come in 5th in the time trial I reckon his back must be ok...

Given he was reported to have come in 5th in the time trial I reckon his back must be ok...

Would've come first if his legs weren't broken and he didn't start his run from North Fitzroy.

interesting that tappy is still training with melb

I don't really care for the order of the finish just how many ran PB's that is the sign of improvement.

I'd like 'em to learn how to pass the ball to each other without turning it over.

Edited November 7, 201411 yr by Fork 'em

We know McDonald is fit, he can now spend the rest of the preseason in the gym and working on his kicking.

Rapt that Viney and Howe finished second and third in the time trial....if we are to push for finals it's guys like this who we know have immense talent who have to reach the next level.

From the 1.5km mark footage:

McDonald, Howe, Hogan, Viney, Evans, Salem, M Jones, Michie, Tyson, Hunt, Kent, Harmes

Which probably makes sense. Hogan gets overtaken by Viney at least towards the end I guess but it's great to know that he's running right up there not far from McDonald because that's the standard of the best key defender runners he'll have to play on.

The more young midfielders get up to AFL standard the more chance we have of winning games.

Only strange one is that Toumpas didn't feature up the front there but possibly he didn't do the run.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned Max King. Thought I saw him for a second on the news and he looked to have developed physically quite a bit. He is about 200cms and looked to have put on a fair bit of muscle.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned Max King. Thought I saw him for a second on the news and he looked to have developed physically quite a bit. He is about 200cms and looked to have put on a fair bit of muscle.

Mentioned him earlier in my first post. Absolutely miles behind Hogan, Kent and Hunt in repeat 200's. By the second one he was 50+ behind.

Yeah he looks a little more solid. Wont be a bean pole. But he'll need all preseason working on endurance (and likely a few more). Definitely a project player type.

Mentioned him earlier in my first post. Absolutely miles behind Hogan, Kent and Hunt in repeat 200's. By the second one he was 50+ behind.

Yeah he looks a little more solid. Wont be a bean pole. But he'll need all preseason working on endurance (and likely a few more). Definitely a project player type.

So how can it be that hogan has a whole year out and smashes anyone in his running group?

Concerns me greatly as obviously king has a very low fitness base. May be hard to ever make it coming from that far back.

Can you really catch up from so far back in a professional sport?

M Jones will take another big step this year.

M Jones will take another big step this year.

In decision making hopefully.

That's about the only real knock I've got on the bloke.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned Max King. Thought I saw him for a second on the news and he looked to have developed physically quite a bit. He is about 200cms and looked to have put on a fair bit of muscle.

I'm a bit bemused by reports of players putting on an observable amount of muscle in the short 2 months between the end of the season and the beginning of training. I guess it is possible, even outside of the EFC, but I just wonder.

So how can it be that hogan has a whole year out and smashes anyone in his running group?

Concerns me greatly as obviously king has a very low fitness base. May be hard to ever make it coming from that far back.

Can you really catch up from so far back in a professional sport?

One of Hogans biggest strengths pre-draft was endurance.

I'm a bit bemused by reports of players putting on an observable amount of muscle in the short 2 months between the end of the season and the beginning of training. I guess it is possible, even outside of the EFC, but I just wonder.

It is not difficult to make large changes to body shape and size over 8 weeks