Liam Anthony

[True Heart 115]

Delisted by the Kangaroos.

27 year old, mature body, wins his own ball.

Surely will be looked at in PSD. Thoughts?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-31/north-axes-anthony-and-co

[InVINCEable 358]

All yes for me.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,284]

Not the best kick but gets a lot of the ball. Worth a 1 year contract I would think.

[beelzebub 23,254]

have we the space

[True Heart 115]

Can we make the space?

We need results now. Holding onto McKenzie and Evans makes no sense when we can pick up a regular 1st grader in Anthony.

[DeeSpencer 24,958]

Can we make the space?

We need results now. Holding onto McKenzie and Evans makes no sense when we can pick up a regular 1st grader in Anthony.

In what world is Liam Anthony a regular? He played 4 games this year, 5 the year before. Hasn't been a regular since 2012.

He turns it over. Is soft, non defensive and slow.

McKenzie can at least tag. Evans, I think he'll get the chop, but even if he doesn't Anthony isn't better than him really. If either of them played we wouldn't be getting any better.

[Machsy 2,858]

No interest in Anthony when we're reportedly leading the race for Newton.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

At first i thought you meant this spud:

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,504]

A no for me. We have enough turnover merchants.

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

Nah, no point in going after players like Anthony or Broughton who would actually be better than the players we have. Let's hold onto evans and Spencer for a decade and hope they come good. FFS

[Vanilla Gorilla 204]

Can we make the space?

We need results now. Holding onto McKenzie and Evans makes no sense when we can pick up a regular 1st grader in Anthony.

There's only one problem with this that people don't seem to be understanding - we don't have the money to pay players out.

Last year we made a minuscule operating profit. Dropping $120k to pay out Evans (let alone McKenzie too) would instantly turn that into a loss.

We don't have the same luxuries as the bigger clubs.

Edited November 1, 2014 by Vanilla Gorilla

[ignition. 1,454]

At first i thought you meant this spud:

I went to school with that spud and he was as much of a kn*b then as what he was when he played.

I am one AFL supporter glad to see him fail.

[ignition. 1,454]

Can we make the space?

We need results now. Holding onto McKenzie and Evans makes no sense when we can pick up a regular 1st grader in Anthony.

They are contracted until next year, I don't think there will be anymore delistings and we'll be using picks 2,3,40 in the National draft.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

I went to school with that spud and he was as much of a kn*b then as what he was when he played.

I am one AFL supporter glad to see him fail.

A mate a mine did too. You guys probably know one another.

He told me this interesting story of when they were all teenagers (16 or so) and at a party, Mr. Anthony turned up really wasted, and was causing a lot of trouble by picking on people, and being antagonistic. Some people finally had a enough of him and put him in his place, and he ended up drinking himself silly and passing out etc. His mum was notified and she came storming in shouting, "Leave my son alone, he is going to be an AFL football star, what have you guys done to him etc.". When it was he, who did it all himself and caused the trouble.

Shame really, when he first started playing he looked the goods. Not much going on up stairs i don't think, and not the most likeable fellow.

[ignition. 1,454]

A mate a mine did too. You guys probably know one another.

He told me this interesting story of when they were all teenagers (16 or so) and at a party, Mr. Anthony turned up really wasted, and was causing a lot of trouble by picking on people, and being antagonistic. Some people finally had a enough of him and put him in his place, and he ended up drinking himself silly and passing out etc. His mum was notified and she came storming in shouting, "Leave my son alone, he is going to be an AFL football star, what have you guys done to him etc.". When it was he, who did it all himself and caused the trouble.

Shame really, when he first started playing he looked the goods. Not much going on up stairs i don't think, and not the most likeable fellow.

Sounds like him although I wasn't at that party, I will ask my best mate next time I see him and see if it rings any bells.

The school was DVC and he left at the end of year 10 by memory, I was in the same year, was your mate too or was he at whatever school he moved to?

He literally had no friends, he had a group he associated with although even they didn't really like him. He was just a completely different breed - a moron and smarta** in class with FIGJAM written all over him.

I also don't really remember him trying to bully anyone aside from his smarta** antics, I think he was just too pigheaded to even do that.

I must say I've watched that chicken dance video of him countless times, couldn't of happened to a better bloke really.

Edited November 2, 2014 by ignition.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Sounds like him although I wasn't at that party, I will ask my best mate next time I see him and see if it rings any bells.

The school was DVC and he left at the end of year 10 by memory, I was in the same year, was your mate too or was he at whatever school he moved to?

He literally had no friends, he had a group he associated with although even they didn't really like him. He was just a completely different breed - a moron and smarta** in class with FIGJAM written all over him.

I also don't really remember him trying to bully anyone aside from his smarta** antics, I think he was just too pigheaded to even do that.

I must say I've watched that chicken dance video of him countless times, couldn't of happened to a better bloke really.

This is the one, i believe. Interesting to note that (now our boy), Garlett kicks a ripping goal on the run from the Anthony turn-over.

How quickly football changes:

[InVINCEable 358]

I'm sure John Anthony is a [censored], but isn't this a Liam Anthony thread?

[Nasher 33,607]

There's only one problem with this that people don't seem to be understanding - we don't have the money to pay players out.

Last year we made a minuscule operating profit. Dropping $120k to pay out Evans (let alone McKenzie too) would instantly turn that into a loss.

It might turn the miniscule profit in to a miniscule loss.

Let the bean counters work out the logistics. If the footy department can't make the right list management decisions because of budgetry constraints then we may as well fold now.

[Vanilla Gorilla 204]

It might turn the miniscule profit in to a miniscule loss.

Let the bean counters work out the logistics. If the footy department can't make the right list management decisions because of budgetry constraints then we may as well fold now.

Why do you think several clubs aren't paying 100% TPP? It's not some strategic football department move. It's a budgetary constraint that unfortunately affects the footy department.

We were damn-near insolvent before Jimmy's debt demolition campaign and for the first time in years have become financially stable. But its a precarious position based on our profit last year. While we can sit back in our lounge chairs and say "we should pay Evans and Mckenzie out", the reality of the matter is we probably don't have the money to do so.

[Moonshadow 17,579]

This is the one, i believe. Interesting to note that (now our boy), Garlett kicks a ripping goal on the run from the Anthony turn-over.

How quickly football changes:

Nice finish by our man Jeff Gartlett in that clip.

[rpfc 28,084]

Why do you think several clubs aren't paying 100% TPP? It's not some strategic football department move. It's a budgetary constraint that unfortunately affects the footy department.

We were damn-near insolvent before Jimmy's debt demolition campaign and for the first time in years have become financially stable. But its a precarious position based on our profit last year. While we can sit back in our lounge chairs and say "we should pay Evans and Mckenzie out", the reality of the matter is we probably don't have the money to do so.

If we don't pay them out I think it would have more to do with - us not wanting to be seen breaking contracts and look like hypocrites after the Clark debacle, and/or that we actually rate the return of McKenzie and/or Evans more than pick 40.

They are not world beaters but I have great respect for McKenzie's toughness and I have time for Evans - he finds the footy.

Finances really don't come into it, especially if we are 'rookie-ing' the player; that money is still being spent on a player. It's not dead money.

[True Heart 115]

In what world is Liam Anthony a regular? He played 4 games this year, 5 the year before. Hasn't been a regular since 2012.

He turns it over. Is soft, non defensive and slow.

McKenzie can at least tag. Evans, I think he'll get the chop, but even if he doesn't Anthony isn't better than him really. If either of them played we wouldn't be getting any better.

In what world would Liam Anthony, fit and injury free not be in our best 22.

The point I was making is that he would be selected in our 22 and is another ball winner that we need.

[DeeSpencer 24,958]

In what world would Liam Anthony, fit and injury free not be in our best 22.

The point I was making is that he would be selected in our 22 and is another ball winner that we need.

In this current world with the list we have.

He's not getting near Jones, Vince, Tyson, Cross or Viney and you can probably add Brayshaw to that soon enough and Salem if he has any kind of preseason. Our outside runners are a distinct weakness of the list but Liam Anthony is not better than Matt Jones, Lumumba, Watts or Toumpas. He just isn't. Not over the last two years.

He's practically a carbon copy of Matt Jones, but Jones is entering his 3rd year in the system and might step it up a notch. Anthony in his 3rd year got found out as not up to it.

[Nasher 33,607]

Why do you think several clubs aren't paying 100% TPP? It's not some strategic football department move. It's a budgetary constraint that unfortunately affects the footy department.

We were damn-near insolvent before Jimmy's debt demolition campaign and for the first time in years have become financially stable. But its a precarious position based on our profit last year. While we can sit back in our lounge chairs and say "we should pay Evans and Mckenzie out", the reality of the matter is we probably don't have the money to do so.

I think several clubs, including the MFC, aren't paying 100% of the TPP because they don't have enough good players to need to.

Don't know what your knowledge of finance or accounting is like VB, but it's not usually about how much cash the club has physically sitting in the bank account or whatever (hopefully we're okay there or there are much bigger problems!) The club will have a budget to pay its players, which will hopefully be up to 100% of the salary cap - at the very least, it'll be higher than what they're projecting to pay to accomodate 'contingencies'. The additional cost added is not the cost of paying out Evans (sunk cost - he is already included in the budget), it's the cost of whatever player we recruit that goes outside our projected costs - and if it's someone like Anthony or Newton, that's not going to be a very large sum. Honestly I'd expect the cost of delisting a contracted player such as Evans to be absorbed in to the existing budget, but even if it's not, it would not be outside the budget by a huge amount and it should be an amount the club can comfortably handle paying.

(I know we have a few accountants on the forum, of which I'm not one, so someone please tell me if I've spoken a load of garbage up there)

I'd like to see your evidence that the MFC was "damn near insolvent" before the DD campaign.