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By no means a draft expert but I'm a huge Ed Langdon fan. If he's still there at pick 40 I'd go for him for sure. He's got Robbie Grey like traits.

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Am I missing something? With Jetta to be elevated, Stretch a lock at 43 (or 40) and recently adding Newton, don't we only have 2 live picks (2 and 3).

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Am I missing something? With Jetta to be elevated, Stretch a lock at 43 (or 40) and recently adding Newton, don't we only have 2 live picks (2 and 3).

Your not missing anything.

We need to delist 1 more player. The major discusions points on some threads have been whether it is worth paying out Evans contract and delisting or delisting either Evans or Trengove and promise to pick them up as rookies.

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Am I missing something? With Jetta to be elevated, Stretch a lock at 43 (or 40) and recently adding Newton, don't we only have 2 live picks (2 and 3).

Yep.

Depressing that we are a "bottom two team" and we have so limited list room.

Odds are very low that pick 40 and 50ish will be good players let alone stars but I like those odds over Evans and Matt Jones.

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Yep.

Depressing that we are a "bottom two team" and we have so limited list room.

Odds are very low that pick 40 and 50ish will be good players let alone stars but I like those odds over Evans and Matt Jones.

Spot on. 6 wins in 2 years, a list which will finish 16th or 17th next year and at this stage we're bringing in 3 kids with picks 2, 3 and Stretch. Staggering.

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Spot on. 6 wins in 2 years, a list which will finish 16th or 17th next year and at this stage we're bringing in 3 kids with picks 2, 3 and Stretch. Staggering.

We have had to replace poor draft choices and we've done that over the last 2 years with Tyson, Michie, Frost and Newton. Sorted out some leadership and experience with Cross and Vince.

I do hope we can at least use pick 40 on someone like Gore though.

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It's not staggering. We are realigning the list after so many failed years of drafting poorly. We hardly had anyone good between the ages of 20 and 26 when Roos took over.

The fact that we have brought in 9 players (plus Jetta) onto the primary list with AFL experience is a good thing if you don't want to wait for those draft picks to come good (if they do come good).

I think we will delist a contracted player and rookie them and use ND40 but I don't hold much hope for that pick.

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It's not staggering. We are realigning the list after so many failed years of drafting poorly. We hardly had anyone good between the ages of 20 and 26 when Roos took over.

The fact that we have brought in 9 players (plus Jetta) onto the primary list with AFL experience is a good thing if you don't want to wait for those draft picks to come good (if they do come good).

I think we will delist a contracted player and rookie them and use ND40 but I don't hold much hope for that pick.

Jetta (51 - 2008), Gawn (34 - 2009), Howe and McDonald (33, 53 - 2010), Kent (48 - 2012), JKH (40 - 2013).

I'd say that's worth a shot.

Much better than our first round pick record!

Worth 200k to pay someone out if they are unwilling drop back to the rookie list

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It's not staggering. We are realigning the list after so many failed years of drafting poorly. We hardly had anyone good between the ages of 20 and 26 when Roos took over.

The fact that we have brought in 9 players (plus Jetta) onto the primary list with AFL experience is a good thing if you don't want to wait for those draft picks to come good (if they do come good).

I think we will delist a contracted player and rookie them and use ND40 but I don't hold much hope for that pick.

Agree but I reserve my judgement on holding out hope on pick 40.

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I'm not too upset with only using 2 picks (plus Stretch) in the draft.

In this off season we have picked up

  • a 40 goal small forward
  • a premiership half back/wingman
  • a full back (a downgrade on Frawley, I agree)
  • a highly rated junior midfielder
  • we look likely to get 2 gun mids (I'm ignoring McCartin after Roos' comments that he can't trust TAC Cup forwards output)
  • plus two rookies

So while we aren't active deep into the draft, we will have added up to 6 players who should walk into our best 22. Give me this over four extra speculative draft picks any day.

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Getting rid of Evans or another 'list clogger' isn't going to improve our list greatly. And you never know, he could do a Pedo or a Jetta and pull something out of his ar$e

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Likely either JT or Evans will be dropped to rookie list to enable pick 40.

I'd rather just pay out his contract if it's Evans. There's no point keeping him on the list, he is a clogger (harsh, but realistic). Sure it's a lottery at Pick 40, but why not try our luck since we don't know what 'player 40' is capable of yet, we know what Evans brings ... and it's not much at all.
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A player, most likely Evans, will make way for Pick 40.

It's just a question of who we take with our three picks:-

Brett Anderson's Mock Draft which is mentioned above could well be spot on as far as 2, 3 and 53 are concerned. Here are the relevant picks according to Anderson who is a Demon at heart which makes his selections well reasoned, logical and probably wrong :lol:

1. ST KILDA – Christian Petracca Eastern Ranges

It’s a line-ball call but the Saints opt for the powerful midfielder in the hope that he can form a dynamic unit with Dunstan, Steven and Billings.

In the mix: Patrick McCartin

2. MELBOURNE – Angus Brayshaw Sandringham Dragons

Melbourne coach Paul Roos is an unabashed fan of the Dragons’ ball magnet and he fits the bill perfectly as a big-bodied inside midfielder.

In the mix: N/A

3. MELBOURNE – Patrick McCartin Geelong Falcons

Still in the mix for No.1, but shouldn’t fall any further than here. Teamed with Jesse Hogan, they’d form a formidable forward pairing for a decade.

In the mix: Jake Lever

...

40. MELBOURNE – Ed Langdon Sandringham Dragons

...

53. MELBOURNE (P/R) – Neville Jetta

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Or it could be Oscar McDonald?

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Or it could be Oscar McDonald?

I'd be absolutely stoked with Oscar McDonald or Ed Langdon.

Posted

It's not staggering. We are realigning the list after so many failed years of drafting poorly. We hardly had anyone good between the ages of 20 and 26 when Roos took over.

The fact that we have brought in 9 players (plus Jetta) onto the primary list with AFL experience is a good thing if you don't want to wait for those draft picks to come good (if they do come good).

I think we will delist a contracted player and rookie them and use ND40 but I don't hold much hope for that pick.

But RPFC, in another post you spoke about how you can't see enough quality midfielders on this list come 2017. I couldn't agree more with you on this, and I believe we'll take Brayshaw and McCartin at 2 and 3, so where are the rest of the midfielders going to come from? We're going to pick into the 80's or 90's over the next couple of drafts?

I would have thought picks 40 and 53 in a very even draft would be wonderful opportunities to add a couple of extra talented midfielders for McCartney to develop.

I maintain that I would be staggered if a rebuilding club with the best development coach in the AFL only brings in 3 kids (Brayshaw, McCartin and Stretch) in an even draft.

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I'd be absolutely stoked with Oscar McDonald or Ed Langdon.

SEN's mock draft has the Western Bulldogs grabbing Oscar at 23 but the WB selectors hopefully have other ideas.

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But RPFC, in another post you spoke about how you can't see enough quality midfielders on this list come 2017. I couldn't agree more with you on this, and I believe we'll take Brayshaw and McCartin at 2 and 3, so where are the rest of the midfielders going to come from? We're going to pick into the 80's or 90's over the next couple of drafts?

I would have thought picks 40 and 53 in a very even draft would be wonderful opportunities to add a couple of extra talented midfielders for McCartney to develop.

I maintain that I would be staggered if a rebuilding club with the best development coach in the AFL only brings in 3 kids (Brayshaw, McCartin and Stretch) in an even draft.

Forget about 53 - that will be Jetta being upgraded.

ND40 is an opportunity to get a mid - I think we will delist a player to use it - but I don't think it is a 'wonderful' opportunity. It will be a speculative teen. the best opportunities for mids is ND3 this year and FA next year.

The point I was making is that the MFC has no spots for these picks because they have targeted experienced players to improve the list and team, including the midfield.

ND2, 22, 23, and 54 were turned into ND9, Tyson, Michie, and Vince. Riley and Newton cost nothing but the picks we won't use in the draft. ND72 (Riley) and ND53 (Newton).

So Roos has given up the kids we could have got for ND2, 22, 23, 53, 54, and 72 for ND9 (Salem), Tyson, Vince, Michie, Riley, and Newton.

That realignment can't be judged fully yet, but it looks very good at the moment.

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Nathan Drummond looks ideal selection at #40.

19yo (20 in January'15)

181cms 84kgs

Physically mature

Good pace

Beep test shows endurance and quickness

versatile mid / small Hbf

Shepparton boy

Ex Melbourne Grammar

Ex Melbourne Grammar like the Cordners sounds good [however isn't that where the Cockatoo-Collins twins also went?]. Nice to break away from Brighton Grammar and Dawes, Watts and Harmes(?) [and Josh Kelly].

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