The HS this morning from my reading has Petracca pick one as a fait accompli.

In the article Petracca has apparently told the StKilda people - "I won't let you down"

"I won't let you down, I will go to Melbourne and do a $cully"

Yes i read that.

The HS this morning from my reading has Petracca pick one as a fait accompli.

In the article Petracca has apparently told the StKilda people - "I won't let you down"

It probably is, but not definitely.

My take on it is that Petracca believes he will be a Saint and is just assuring whoever takes him, they will have a player who gives his best.

my weekend info from dazzledavey's favourite golf source:

There is some hope Petracca may not be pick one.

Better wash that hope down the drain. As good as gone to the saints.

given the evenness of the top 2-3 its almost a blessing not to have another player cursed with the No# 1 crown of thorns...

I'd rather mccartin and brayshaw to petracca.

I'd rather mccartin and brayshaw to petracca.

I am moving my thinking this way as well.

Petracca looks pretty bloody good.

The recruiter at St Kilda must be sweating bullets.

Might sound a bit simple but all the recent "expert" press is suggesting a clear top 3 is most peoples eyes. If truly the case then how bloody fantastic that we get two of them, and avoid the #1 pick mantle for our first pick.

I will be very happy with any of the two mentioned, then get them into our newly improved "good development" environment. Reality now is that these two young men will have a more experienced development coach in McCartney, plus a Goodwin than Scully and Trengove had in a senior coach with Bailey. We are miles in front and haven't even mentioned Roos.

I literally can't wait to see Brayshaw band Petracce/McCartin train the house down, get a heap of press, hype and play well pre season.....and not get picked rd1 cause we've got better options!!

'Knightmare' has just updated his draft order complete with measurements from the combine. His early picks are pretty spot-on this close to draft day:

#1 St Kilda – Christian Petracca (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 186.2cm, Weight: 94.65kg, DOB: 04/01/1996
Recruited from: Eastern Ranges
Range: 1-2
Profile: Powerful midfielder/forward.

#2 Melbourne – Angus Brayshaw (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 186.8cm, Weight: 90.55kg, DOB: 09/01/1996
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Range: 1-3
Profile: Dominant midfielder.

#3 Melbourne - Patrick McCartin (VIC - KPF)
Height: 193.6cm, Weight: 95.95kg, DOB: 19/04/1996
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Range: 1-8
Profile: Dominant key forward.

#4 GWS – Jarrod Pickett (WA – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 176.9cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 18/08/1996
Recruited from: South Fremantle
Range: 5-15
Profile: Electric outside linebreaker.

#5 Collingwood – Jayden Laverde (VIC – Util)
Height: 189.4cm, Weight: 79.95kg, DOB: 12/04/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 4-15
Profile: Damaging utility.

#6 GWS – Hugh Goddard (VIC – KPD/KPF)
Height: 196.2cm, Weight: 94.1kg, DOB: 24/08/1996
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Range: 6-20
Profile: Promising key defender.

#7 GWS (via Carlton) – Paul Ahern (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 181.8cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 01/08/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 4-25
Profile: Damaging forward/midfielder.

#8 Gold Coast – Liam Duggan (VIC – Util)
Height: 183.8cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 11/12/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 5-25
Profile: Classy versatile type.

#9 Collingwood – Darcy Moore (Collingwood - F/S – VIC – KPF/KPD)
Height: 198.8cm, Weight: 91.4kg, DOB: 25/01/1996
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Range: 1st round.
Profile: Promising key position player.

#10 Geelong – Peter Wright (VIC - KPF/Ruck)
Height: 203.3cm, Weight: 100.1kg, DOB: 08/09/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 3-20
Profile: Promising key forward/ruckman.

#11 West Coast – Jordan De Goey (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 187.5cm, Weight: 84.7kg, DOB: 15/03/1996
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Range: 5-15
Profile: Strong marking midfielder/forward.

#12 Richmond – Corey Ellis (VIC – Util)
Height: 184.4cm, Weight: 74.3kg, DOB: 09/10/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 8-25
Profile: Skillful type.

#13 Fremantle - Jake Lever (VIC –KPD)
Height: 192.9cm, Weight: 83.95kg, DOB: 05/03/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 3-15
Profile: Key defender who will go early despite missing 2014 through injury.

#14 Adelaide – Kyle Langford (VIC – Util)
Height: 190.1cm, Weight: 76.4kg, DOB: 01/12/1996
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Range: 5-20
Profile: Versatile tall.

#15 Gold Coast – Caleb Marchbank (VIC – KPD)
Height: 191.7cm, Weight: 88.9kg, DOB: 07/12/1996
Recruited from: Murray Bushrangers
Range: 6-25
Profile: Promising key defender.

#16 North Melbourne – Jarrod Garlett (WA –Mid)
Height: 180.1cm, Weight: 68.65kg, DOB: 18/08/1996
Recruited from: South Fremantle
Range: 8-25
Profile: Outside linebreaker.

#17 Essendon – Lachlan Weller (QLD – Util)
Height: 181.6cm, Weight: 76.8kg, DOB: 23/02/1996
Recruited from: Broadbeach
Range: 5-20
Profile: Skilled outside type, brother of Maverick.

#18 Sydney – Isaac Heeney (Sydney academy- NSW/ACT - Mid/Def)
Height: 186.2cm, Weight: 84.1kg, DOB: 05/05/1996
Recruited from: Cardiff
Range: 1st round
Profile: Complete midfielder.

#19 Carlton – Connor Menadue (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 187.3cm, Weight: 69.05kg, DOB: 19/09/1996
Recruited from: Western Jets
Range: 15-40
Profile: Explosive type with versatility.

#20 Essendon – Nakia Cockatoo (NT – Util)
Height: 186.2cm, Weight: 86.4kg, DOB: 23/10/1996
Recruited from: NT Thunder
Range: 10-30
Profile: Explosive midfielder.

This Knightmare must have nightmare's with his arithmetic. He has the bloke he's picked to go at 4 in the 5 - 15 range.

If the Sun article on the Saints today is correct, Brayshaw is now a Demon.

It also said that the Saints have decided on their first pick.

Trying to unravel it I noticed that there were predictions of mids to come after their first pick, which suggested McCartin was their choice, but then I noticed a couple of key forwards mentioned and one training with them and I swung back to Petracca.

So again it looks like we come back to the same 3 in the order mentioned by most, unless the Dees overlook McCartin. Given what I heard last week at the meeting with Viney and Taylor that looks unlikely.

Conclusion, welcome to the Dees Angus and Paddy.

Conclusion, welcome to the Dees Angus and Paddy.

there are some good puns in there somewhere

something about an angus beef meat paddy

ill let someone else do it

If the Sun article on the Saints today is correct, Brayshaw is now a Demon.

It also said that the Saints have decided on their first pick.

Trying to unravel it I noticed that there were predictions of mids to come after their first pick, which suggested McCartin was their choice, but then I noticed a couple of key forwards mentioned and one training with them and I swung back to Petracca.

So again it looks like we come back to the same 3 in the order mentioned by most, unless the Dees overlook McCartin. Given what I heard last week at the meeting with Viney and Taylor that looks unlikely.

Conclusion, welcome to the Dees Angus and Paddy.

Looks likely now Redleg doesn't it, although I did notice this line in the article that still keeps the idea of McCartin to StKilda alive depending on how you choose to read it:

"The Saints traded in pick 21 for Rhys Stanley, believing the player they pick will exceed what the 23-year-old would have delivered if he had not been sent to Geelong".

What's your view on that comment?

Looks likely now Redleg doesn't it, although I did notice this line in the article that still keeps the idea of McCartin to StKilda alive depending on how you choose to read it:

"The Saints traded in pick 21 for Rhys Stanley, believing the player they pick will exceed what the 23-year-old would have delivered if he had not been sent to Geelong".

What's your view on that comment?

We could drive ourselves nuts with this, but they could also be referring to McKenzie, who may be a target at 21/22.

there are some good puns in there somewhere

something about an angus beef meat paddy

ill let someone else do it

or it could be a case of cow pad dee

there are some good puns in there somewhere

It's a shame that we didn't draft Naitanui. We could've had NikNat & Paddy Mac

It's a shame that we didn't draft Naitanui. We could've had NikNat & Paddy Mac

And if they played with the WB's it could have been " give the dog a bone".

Roo has two years left, who better to learn from as a lead up forward.

And if they played with the WB's it could have been " give the dog a bone".

Angus & Paddy are rolling home?

Looks likely now Redleg doesn't it, although I did notice this line in the article that still keeps the idea of McCartin to StKilda alive depending on how you choose to read it:

"The Saints traded in pick 21 for Rhys Stanley, believing the player they pick will exceed what the 23-year-old would have delivered if he had not been sent to Geelong".

What's your view on that comment?

It has no baring on who they will take at pick 1.

Would you trade Rhys Stanley for Luke Dunstan? Of course you would. That's what that trade was for.

I'm very confident the saints will use one of their first 4 and probably one of their first 3 picks on a tall and more than likely a tall forward because they've got a pretty thin group there and will have drafted some good mids. But you don't change your minds on pick 1 because you traded out Rhys Stanley.

Remember Pelchen was at the saints until a month ago and recently said you go best available at the top and consider needs the further down the draft.

And if they played with the WB's it could have been " give the dog a bone".

And we could take Lucas Jagger in the 2017 draft. His old man's a Rolling Stone.

And we could take Lucas Jagger in the 2017 draft. His old man's a Rolling Stone.

Pass for me - He gives no satisfaction.

It has no baring on who they will take at pick 1.

Would you trade Rhys Stanley for Luke Dunstan? Of course you would. That's what that trade was for.

I'm very confident the saints will use one of their first 4 and probably one of their first 3 picks on a tall and more than likely a tall forward because they've got a pretty thin group there and will have drafted some good mids. But you don't change your minds on pick 1 because you traded out Rhys Stanley.

Remember Pelchen was at the saints until a month ago and recently said you go best available at the top and consider needs the further down the draft.

I think it is a bit of a furphy that St Kilda are in such desperate need for tall forwards. They have Riewoldt obviously for the short term and Spencer White is breaking through and they have Tom Lee and Tim Membrey plus Longer and Hickey to fit in as well. The reality is Stanley May have struggled to get a game unless he played as the second ruck or key back, which assuredly is where he'll play for the Cats.

there are some good puns in there somewhere

something about an angus beef meat paddy

ill let someone else do it

There are no good puns in there anywhere.

In fact, there are no good puns.

Lift your comedy game people! Don't accept abject mediocrity!