Potential Trades [Warning: Reading this thread may self-destruct]

[Yarra Valley Demon 108]

Why does everyone get such a hard on for the PSD? The whole trade period/draft period takes too long as it bloody is.

[dee-luded 2,958]

At the moment we have delisted 2(Nicho and Clisby) and lost Frawley.

We have picked up 2 (Stretch and Garlett).

Clark and Lamumba will cancel itsrlf out so essentially we only have room for 1 more on our list which at this rate will go to Jetta.

We will delist another 2-3 before the draft I would say

I would say so to, & still maybe trade some for spoons.

[Yarra Valley Demon 108]

Byrnes retired as well.

Currently there are 2 spots available before upgrading Jetta.

There are 3 spots available BEFORE upgrading Jetta. 2 spots available AFTER upgrading Jetta.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-09-29/melbournes-2015-list

Frawley is out but Garlett takes his place.

Clark wants out but Lumumba should take his place.

Blease wants out as well which would secure an additional spot on the Primary List.

[daisycutter 28,549]

i don't think we have seen all our delistings yet, so the no. of spots could increase

[Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269]

i don't think we have seen all our delistings yet, so the no. of spots could increase

Yep it certainly will DC.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Tappy, Blease and Strauss will all be delisted by next week if no clubs show interest.

We're potentially picking up Gwilt and/or Jones as DFA. How does that factor into the equation?

Very frustrated and disappointed so far at the total lack of player trades.

[Yarra Valley Demon 108]

Tappy, Blease and Strauss will all be delisted by next week if no clubs show interest.

We're potentially picking up Gwilt and/or Jones as DFA. How does that factor into the equation?

Very frustrated and disappointed so far at the total lack of player trades.

If we let 3 go and pick up 2 that leaves us with an additional pick to carry into the ND or PSD. Assuming we upgrade Jetta then we would have 3 ND (2, 3, 23) at that point or 2 ND (2, 3) and 1 PSD (2) if we decided that was the best option.

The Beams trade is taking forever which is holding everyone up. But the AFL in their eternal wisdom (thanks Vlad) decided two years ago to extend the trade period to two weeks instead of 4 days.

[SaberFang 7,141]

And we have to take two players minimum in the draft, other than Stretch. Or would Jetta count as one of these?

Meaning we could go to the draft with only pick 2 and get Brayshaw?

[Yarra Valley Demon 108]

And we have to take two players minimum in the draft, other than Stretch. Or would Jetta count as one of these?

Meaning we could go to the draft with only pick 2 and get Brayshaw?

Jetta would count for one of those

So yes, potentially we could but after campaigning so hard to get 3 as compo you would think that would be unlikely.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Jetta would count for one of those

So yes, potentially we could but after campaigning so hard to get 3 as compo you would think that would be unlikely.

I reckon the opposite. Roos clearly wants Brayshaw but also wants to repeat the Tyson deal from last year. We are in the perfect position to do both thanks to the compo, so effectively we can have our cake and eat it too. Last year it took our first and second rounder, both of which we've thus far held on to.

I reckon both will be given up for established players by the end of next week and we'll happily take Brayshaw, Stretch and Jetta as our 3 picks. Maybe a pick 30-40 player like JKH that Taylor recommends, if another club throws in any late picks as sweeteners.

[jnrmac 18,979]

I reckon the opposite. Roos clearly wants Brayshaw but also wants to repeat the Tyson deal from last year. We are in the perfect position to do both thanks to the compo, so effectively we can have our cake and eat it too. Last year it took our first and second rounder, both of which we've thus far held on to.

I reckon both will be given up for established players by the end of next week and we'll happily take Brayshaw, Stretch and Jetta as our 3 picks. Maybe a pick 30-40 player like JKH that Taylor recommends, if another club throws in any late picks as sweeteners.

Not sure how you can say that....

[CBDees 3,162]

Not sure how you can say that....

I am another who believes that Roos will bring Brayshaw on board. In fact, trades aside, l suspect that Brayshaw is the only player in the draft, that Roos is a lock-in for drafting.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Not sure how you can say that....

Paige said he's been unofficially pulling him aside throughout the year at Sandy matches and mentoring him. It's obvious he's seen plenty that he likes, and Tyler would be giving him plenty of feedback.

And Salem, whom Brayshaw has said he wants to model his game on.

A perfect Paul Roos draftee.

[DeeSpencer 23,134]

I reckon the opposite. Roos clearly wants Brayshaw but also wants to repeat the Tyson deal from last year. We are in the perfect position to do both thanks to the compo, so effectively we can have our cake and eat it too. Last year it took our first and second rounder, both of which we've thus far held on to.

I reckon both will be given up for established players by the end of next week and we'll happily take Brayshaw, Stretch and Jetta as our 3 picks. Maybe a pick 30-40 player like JKH that Taylor recommends, if another club throws in any late picks as sweeteners.

We'd be silly not to bring in at least a couple more picks in the draft besides the 2 under 18 year olds. Given our draft hand I'd say clear room for 4 at least. Upping the overall state of the list is vital but any sustained top 4 or flag tilt will need a core of players in the same age group and our best age group is still built around Hogan, Tyson, Viney and co. So if we trade out 3 and 23 for experience we should try and get a couple of 20's or 30's back with them minimum. Draft picks are still the best way to find cheap quality talent. Not much point even having a recruiting department if you don't give them a shot.

[SaberFang 7,141]

We'd be silly not to bring in at least a couple more picks in the draft besides the 2 under 18 year olds. Given our draft hand I'd say clear room for 4 at least. Upping the overall state of the list is vital but any sustained top 4 or flag tilt will need a core of players in the same age group and our best age group is still built around Hogan, Tyson, Viney and co. So if we trade out 3 and 23 for experience we should try and get a couple of 20's or 30's back with them minimum. Draft picks are still the best way to find cheap quality talent. Not much point even having a recruiting department if you don't give them a shot.

Given Roos brought in 5 midfielders last year before we even got to the draft (Salem making it 6), and we haven't brought in a single one this year yet (other than Stretch), I'd say there's obviously a bigger plan going on behind the scenes.

We have to give our money to someone! We just cleared a $700k player off our list and we were already paying the minimum cap. There must be a big play at work here.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

What are people's thoughts on who Saints are going to take with 1? Is Petracca too good to pass on or will they get the forward they need, can they get a forward through other trades or is mccartin worth 1 to them?

[SaberFang 7,141]

What are people's thoughts on who Saints are going to take with 1? Is Petracca too good to pass on or will they get the forward they need, can they get a forward through other trades or is mccartin worth 1 to them?

This boner for Petracca intrigues me because he doesn't seem particularly hard. I watched him doing some agility tests and he looked a little bit clumsy trying to maneuver his frame around.

[Binmans PA 26,117]

Given Roos brought in 5 midfielders last year before we even got to the draft (Salem making it 6), and we haven't brought in a single one this year yet (other than Stretch), I'd say there's obviously a bigger plan going on behind the scenes.

We have to give our money to someone! We just cleared a $700k player off our list and we were already paying the minimum cap. There must be a big play at work here.

Certainly. Something is brewing and it sounds like it could be announced tomorrow. Let's hope we don't have to wait until next week. I fear we will though.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Certainly. Something is brewing and it sounds like it could be announced tomorrow. Let's hope we don't have to wait until next week. I fear we will though.

Not trying to be clever but where is it sounding like something might be announced tomorrow?

[Ethan Tremblay 28,394]

Not trying to be clever but where is it sounding like something might be announced tomorrow?

His clothes dryer talks to him.

[Binmans PA 26,117]

I was referencing the Dangerfield thread where someone mentioned it was D day one way or the other tomorrow. There were a couple of rumours earlier in the week that hinted that something was going down on Friday. So I'm pining my hopes of innuendo and rumour from Demonland. Not a great indication really.

[What 18,810]

Certainly. Something is brewing and it sounds like it could be announced tomorrow. Let's hope we don't have to wait until next week. I fear we will though.

sauce!!!!!!!!!

edit - you posted a millisecond before me

and your sauce sucks btw

Edited October 9, 2014 by hogans_heroes

[Goodvibes 3,596]

I'd be offering Charlie Dixon 750,000 a year and Gold Coast pick 3.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Well if nothing happens tomorrow I'm definitely concerned about what the hell we've been doing over the last 3 months. Roos was indicating a massive sweep out of this list and thus far it's been anything but.

Our 3 likely trades in week one:

1. Lamumba - only happened because Buckley fell out with him and someone at Collingwood suggested we meet his management

2. Garlett - had a falling out with Carlton after off-field incidents, and they shopped him around for peanuts. We showed interest.

3. Sam Frost, to replace Frawley. Net gain of zero for our depth.

S two of these three weren't even planned for and simply fell into our laps. I'd love to know if there's a greater recruitment strategy here, because if we just put all our hopes on Danger and that's gone nowhere, well... the whole thing is Neeld-esque in levels of stupidity.

Of course, if we land Danger or Shiel I will happily rescind this rant.

[Pennant St Dee 11,279]

Byrnes retired as well.

Currently there are 2 spots available before upgrading Jetta.

Outs from 2014 list

Clark, Frawley, Byrnes, Clisby & Nicho

Ins:

Stretch, Garlett, Pick 2, Pick 3 & Pick 23 it will be used for a player through the draft or trade

Into the equation:

5 out and as per above 5 in,

Lumumba being talked as a done deal so there is another 1, not to mention Frost, so I would assume at least 2 more delistings

Also to be considered if Pick 2 or 3 is traded it could possibly be for another two on the list either straight swap for players or a player and another pick

Anywhere around 8-10 changes on our list is possible

I think next week unless traded Strauss, Blease and Tappy will be delisted and not sure on other players contract situations but Mckenzie, Evans and Matt Jones could find themselves under the microscope