Has Frawley announced that he's gone to the cats yet??

As mentioned in another thread Varcoe and Stokes again found wanting in a pressure cooker final!

Selwood is the most ADMIRABLE PLAYER in the game right now, Sheeit he's brave!

definite free. the ball wasn't held to him and he failed to dispose of it correctly

prior op had nothing to do with it

I replayed it and timed it, pick up to tackle, 1 second. Definitely prior..

i wanted geelong to get a goal and go into extra time, but I would have laughed if nth managed to lose that. Wow never thought it would be a sydney nth prelim. But Hawkins hammered thompson tonight. buddy or Tippett will monster thompson next week. He just got well beaten.

Lindsay thomas is there any chance one day you will get off the ground pick yourself up and not have your arms stretched out wide complaining to the umpire. I have never ever seen someone whine so much. Yes admittedly he could have got some frees but when he whinges and dives of course the umps arnt going to pay it.

Few clear free kicks not paid to Thomas tonight. Once the umpires know your act you can't expect free kicks. He's his own worst enemy.

i wanted geelong to get a goal and go into extra time, but I would have laughed if nth managed to lose that. Wow never thought it would be a sydney nth prelim. But Hawkins hammered thompson tonight. buddy or Tippett will monster thompson next week. He just got well beaten.

Lindsay thomas is there any chance one day you will get off the ground pick yourself up and not have your arms stretched out wide complaining to the umpire. I have never ever seen someone whine so much. Yes admittedly he could have got some frees but when he whinges and dives of course the umps arnt going to pay it.

and that reversed free he gave away on the boundary was nothing more than stupid.

So James. Is it the right move?

The cat dynasty is over

7 years. With G Ablett could have been 10

PSD the old system of drafting sent the VFL completely bust by 1985-6. Thus the interstate teams were signed up.

The current draft is fine.

The MFC has been shocking at using it. We may need a PP but we don't deserve it.

We have to start earning our position rather than just wanting it.

WYL in 85-86 we didn't have salary cap which we do now so clubs would be within limits of who they could pick up if we went back to that system

Again we are not the only ones who get the draft wrong every club has made horrendous choices

I'll back Roos knowledge against yours any day and even he knows the draft is a lottery

and finally look again over the last 20 years how many first and second round picks have failed, a hell of a lot because they are being judged as junior footballers

Was at the game tonight with a few Cats supporters and as much as I hate the Cats I thought that North looked the stronger side - So I barracked for the Catters. Even though the Cats have beaten us to a pulp over the last few years I still can't bring myself to support North in a game of footy. For so long it feels like they've been the pretenders and there are a number of players on their list who I despise. Even when they were seemingly close to winning the game their administration still felt the need to tell their supporters to 'make some noise' - a club completely void of culture and identity and I think if given the hard times we've been subjected to as supporters/members/diehards their club wouldn't be located where it is currently, if in existence at all.

The thing that stood out to me was the value of a dominant ruckman and Goldstein filled the bill last night. He monstered the Cats' rucks and its a tribute to their fighting spirit and their (albeit waning) talent and experience that go them so close. If you look at Melbourne's very few wins and our better games this season they came when we won in the ruck, mainly through Mark Jamar (and Spencer v Carlton). When the Russian's form lapsed at the end, apparently as a result of a lack of a pre season, we did too. He received some late back up from Max Gawn but losing Clark and Spencer and with King also out injured and being light on in strength and experience, we were at a disadvantage. I know we say "it's the midfield stupid" but the ruckman plays a big role in the midfield. Look at Sandilands and his understanding with Fyfe and others or at the way Goldstein controlled the centre bounces last night. I'd be disappointed if we weren't targeting one more ruck prospect for the future.

i wanted geelong to get a goal and go into extra time, but I would have laughed if nth managed to lose that. Wow never thought it would be a sydney nth prelim. But Hawkins hammered thompson tonight. buddy or Tippett will monster thompson next week. He just got well beaten.

Lindsay thomas is there any chance one day you will get off the ground pick yourself up and not have your arms stretched out wide complaining to the umpire. I have never ever seen someone whine so much. Yes admittedly he could have got some frees but when he whinges and dives of course the umps arnt going to pay it

... except his coach

Seeing North win finals is really pissing me off. I am getting very irritable. I think the only thing that can alleviate this is if they make it to the granny and get destroyed by +100.

Seeing North win finals is really pissing me off. I am getting very irritable. I think the only thing that can alleviate this is if they make it to the granny and get destroyed by +100.

They will not make it Swans fwd line will belt them.

Swans will probably [censored] North, but credit where it's due, they have been fantastic during this finals series.

Cats are on the way down with Enright, Bartel and Mackie showing signs that the end is nigh for them plus several others lacking real class.

Tough to pick tonight...

Brian Taylor is such a fool....

Brian Taylor is such a fool....

Understatement of the decade,

Understatement of the decade,

i know!! But his first piece of vommentary for the night was just wrong!!

i know!! But his first piece of vommentary for the night was just wrong!!

what did he say?

No Colin Sylvia in the Freemantle line up?

Freo playing champagne football at the moment. Their pressure is outstanding. Should be 6 goals up.

Would Love to have Ross Lyon follow Roos. The guy is a seriously good coach. Freo are monstering Port.

Some bullshite Freo free kicks right now. Port players held at 3-4 contests in a row. Ball goes over the boundary line. Freo get a free for holding even though the ball is out of play.

Ridiculous.

what did he say?

Have to look back at the replay Trust me it was Dumb...!

Have to look back at the replay Trust me it was Dumb...!

Was it the one where he said Crowley was going to Wines when he was clearly following Boak step for step.