Imagine if everything hadn't gone so pear-shaped over the last couple of years.

Imagine players were desperate to stay at the Dees instead of move on when they hit the free-agent stage

Imahine Roos was coaching this team instead of the rabble that ran out yesterday.........

B: Garland Frawley Grimes

HB: Rivers McDonald Howe

C: Scully Sylvia Watts

HF: Salem Dawes Jurrah

F: S Martin Clarke Hogan

R: Jamar Scott Thompson Jones

i/c: McLean, Dunn, Tompous, Jeddah

Do you reckon it'd make any difference or would we still be stuffed?

I would have Townsend, Vagg and Jungwirth in there too.

What about Tarzan Glass?

My favourite is Jeddah Jeez.

What about Bartram? He was a champ id love in our team right now

Jeddah

What about Bartram? He was a champ id love in our team right now

hmm he prob wouldn't have a knee by now lol

What about Bartram? He was a champ id love in our team right now

What about Petterd who will probably end up playing Finals with Richmond?

Some "Enlightenment' re Tarzan Glass Melbourne Forward! ( Gee wouldn't mind him now)!

DOB: 22 February 1910
Died: 29 July 1985

Debut: Round 1, 1933 against Richmond at MCG
Last Game: Round 13, 1938 against Hawthorn at Glenferrie Oval

Games: 78
Goals: 135
Career Statistics

Wins Draws Losses Winning % 43 1 34 55.12

Leading Goalkicker - 1936

The man nicknamed "Tarzan" because of his tenacious forward play notched up 55 games for East Fremantle and was recruited to Melbourne in 1933 after kicking 40 goals in the previous season. He had played in two premierships in Perth.

Lured to Melbourne with the promise of a job at the MCG, Glass started life at Melbourne as a midfielder before moving back into the forward line in 1936 where he formed a winning combination with Norm Smith.

In 1939 he joined Williamstown and the side won a premiership in his first season. He played for them until leaving at the end of 1941 when he enlisted in the Air Force. He was discharged as a corporal and returned to Williamstown for one last season in 1945, where he was named vicee-captain. The side won another premiership that year. In total he played 82 games for 54 goals in the VFA.

In 2003 he was named ruck-rover in Williamstown's team of the century.

What about Bartram? He was a champ id love in our team right now

gave his all but had poor disposal.

I would have Townsend, Vagg and Jungwirth in there too.

Len & Norm Smith & Alan la Fontaine. & don't forget the Biffen!

Hogan was picked up with Scully Compo so can't have both of them in the same side

Brad Sewell in that side too.

Hogan was picked up with Scully Compo so can't have both of them in the same side

Says you. This is fantasy land where every pick is a star and every traded pick is still at the club, playing alongside whoever we traded him for.

half the blokes you named played plenty of miserable games in red and blue

I miss scully, rivers, mclean and sylvia about as much as the chest infection i had last month

Says you. This is fantasy land where every pick is a star and every traded pick is still at the club, playing alongside whoever we traded him for.

Okay lets play

2006

2nd Round Pick Todd Goldstein

3rd Round Pick Robbie Gray

4th Round Tyson Goldsack

Rookie - Matt Suckling

2007

Dangerfield

Harry Taylor

Jack Steven

Rookie Mumford

2008

Hurley

Zaharakis

Hannaberry

Sloane

PSD - Rockliff

Rookie - Luke Bruest

Are you feeling ill yet

2009

Trengove

Talia

Fyfe

2010

Jack Darling

still take Howe over Parker because we wouldn't have need him with the mids we took in the previous years

Rookie - Dalhaus

2011

Off load one of our guns we drafted in the previous years for either O'Meara or Crouch in the mini draft

2012

Mcrae

the rest were good pick ups

Don't see anything wrong with our list after that

Thanks for that Pennant, now let me remove the salt from my wounds

like a dagger through my heart ... perfect is hard to achieve.

picks 2,3

Petracca

Ahern

Len & Norm Smith & Alan la Fontaine. & don't forget the Biffen!

You would have to fish him out of the Gatwick first and if you did so, he most likely would be in no state to play.

Ray Biffin, despite advancing years, would be a much safer bet to take the field.

Says you. This is fantasy land where every pick is a star and every traded pick is still at the club, playing alongside whoever we traded him for.

If it's fantasy land, we may as well add Chris Judd...he mentioned once that he might be interested in leaving WCE for Melbourne.

You would have to fish him out of the Gatwick first and if you did so, he most likely would be in no state to play.

Ray Biffin, despite advancing years, would be a much safer bet to take the field.

what??? do you mean to tell me that Biff, isn't Ray? & I thought that after his driving for APD all those years, he would have retired gracefully into a comfy lounge near the center of the action, on good old fitzaroy street...

Please stop making me depressed!

half the blokes you named played plenty of miserable games in red and blue

I miss scully, rivers, mclean and sylvia about as much as the chest infection i had last month

Agree re three of them - but you have to be kidding re Rivers - was always good and flying at the Cats.

Oooh, a self-flagellation thread. Ok!

Let's imagine that each of Morton, Bate, Gysberts, Scully, McKenzie, Bennell, Trengove, Fitzpatrick and Spencer turned their respective glimpses of form into a sustained, consistent level of play.

Let's imagine that Matthew Lloyd hadn't successfully suckered the umpire by diving when Nicholson nudged him in the final quarter of the 2004 elimination final.

Le's imagine that we hadn't been done for salary cap breaches, losing us Pick 4 (Matthew Pavlich) from the 1999 draft.

MFCSS.