I don't think he leaves GWS. Not yet anyway, and certainly not for being disgruntled when the season hasn't even been completed yet.

If we feel, as a club, that we need another tall forward then Butcher is worth a look. Would come cheaper but he is still young and we know what he can provide, plus we can then still use our top picks on mids.

Why is that? He's a number one pick, a tall forward which they have in abundance, can't get a game, and is disgruntled. Pick 4 isn't much of a downgrade and would certainly tempt them. It would be a different story if he had taken the competition by storm a la Cameron, but that hasn't happened.

Rumoured to be disgruntled....this is how the Demonland myths start....Cameron is starting to feel the full reality of AFL footy now, gets lots more attention than last year, needs to work through that

I don't think he leaves GWS. Not yet anyway, and certainly not for being disgruntled when the season hasn't even been completed yet.

If we feel, as a club, that we need another tall forward then Butcher is worth a look. Would come cheaper but he is still young and we know what he can provide, plus we can then still use our top picks on mids.

Dont think Boyds going anywhere either. but it intrigues me why some wouldnt consider him.. We salivated at the idea of Clark Dawes and Hogan Id be quite chuffed with Hogan Dawes and Boyd.. All conjecture really

Good luck to them. Patton is a brute but a dumb, dumb footballer.

... but so was Hawkins,,, it takes time for the game to become 'intuitive', & involves self belief.

Until then, most players look dumb. you have to learn this, to understand it, to see past this. to see the real talent hidden.

I'd actually be happy having TS back at the club.

Ofcourse I'd only pay him about $70,000 a year.

scull' dog, that little piggy went to market. I'd like to see him in a Malthouse establishment. paybacks a bitsch.

Edited July 9, 201411 yr by dee-luded

I don't think he leaves GWS. Not yet anyway, and certainly not for being disgruntled when the season hasn't even been completed yet.

If we feel, as a club, that we need another tall forward then Butcher is worth a look. Would come cheaper but he is still young and we know what he can provide, plus we can then still use our top picks on mids.

don't right off Vickery....

don't right off Vickery....

Most Richmond supporters have.....will be interesting to see if he can back up this week!!!

As I said, I am passing on the information I was told. I have no reason to doubt who told me. My take was it is the living in Sydney thing first and lack of opportunities to date second.

Whether it is correct I don't know but thought it interesting and if true could make for an interesting trade week.

Wiseblood take it as you like.

I can only hope if true and he is open to a return home then we are into him. We will have negotiating chips.

Goad thanks for passing on the info.

Some posters are very quick to get excited about "sources" so don't let it bother u.

Pass on any further info u hear. Cheers

Really?

I thought Patton has been fairly impressive, needs a full pre season and injury free run, it's always hard to shine in a terrible side

Agree. Out of sight syndrome here.

Hasn't taken the comp like Cameron but slowly building into a good forward after a knee co.

Looked like he was about to rip Carlton a few weeks ago and was marking everything. Works hard and good hands.

Can only go up for Patton.

Would chase Patton as hard as Boyd.

I don't think he leaves GWS. Not yet anyway, and certainly not for being disgruntled when the season hasn't even been completed yet.

If we feel, as a club, that we need another tall forward then Butcher is worth a look. Would come cheaper but he is still young and we know what he can provide, plus we can then still use our top picks on mids.

Where is Butcher at? Haven't of him all season. Injured again?

Not injured, just not a great footballer.

Port have built their forward line around Schultz, the Hoff and a rotation of about 6 mids,

Butcher just gets in the way and doesn't contribute defensively.

Where is Butcher at? Haven't of him all season. Injured again?

If you are enquiring about John Butcher, one time could have been pickup for the Dees several years ago he is playing as Key Forward in the SANFL. He is having a good season from all reports.

Currently he sits behind one "Juice Newton" from Norwood on the SANFL Goalkicking list ,which makes him third or fourth on this list I think!

Most Richmond supporters have.....will be interesting to see if he can back up this week!!!

all the more reason to look at him closely... (Vickery)

I hope not, I'd like us to have a crack at him cheaply. environment, culture, environment, culture.

Edited July 10, 201411 yr by dee-luded

I'd rate Boyd as a better prospect than Patton - they are both unproven players.

In saying that I think Tom Boyd is the better footballer and athlete.

Boyd will be a star, easily worth our pick inside the 5.

Not injured, just not a great footballer.

Port have built their forward line around Schultz, the Hoff and a rotation of about 6 mids,

Butcher just gets in the way and doesn't contribute defensively.

Agree with above and would add that a forwards no. 1 job is to kick goals. He is only 50/50 to do so from the top of the goal square.

We already have ample players who can't kick, we certainly don't need another.

Not injured, just not a great footballer.

Port have built their forward line around Schultz, the Hoff and a rotation of about 6 mids,

Butcher just gets in the way and doesn't contribute defensively.

and some folk here want him

Butcher. Could there be a more aptly named footballer?

We are riddled with players with poor foot skills and some are calling for Butcher as a potential trade target. Like seriously, do you have any idea?

We are riddled with players with poor foot skills and some are calling for Butcher as a potential trade target. Like seriously, do you have any idea?

Does the question deserve such a condescending reply? He's played a total of 23 games for Port and I expect that many people, like myself, haven't seen a single one of them. I know he's a poor kick because I'm a sad bastard who spends too much time on the internet, but I expect the "Average Melbourne Following Joe" has had next to no exposure to him since he joined the AFL system.

Does the question deserve such a condescending reply? He's played a total of 23 games for Port and I expect that many people, like myself, haven't seen a single one of them. I know he's a poor kick because I'm a sad [censored] who spends too much time on the internet, but I expect the "Average Melbourne Following Joe" has had next to no exposure to him since he joined the AFL system.

are you for real. He but asks asks a realistic question and you ridicule him ??really

are you for real. He but asks asks a realistic question and you ridicule him ??really

The first reply was condescending and Nasher answered his question by saying that he has seen him play. What is there to miss?

His kicking action isn't flash but he isn't a midfielder, he is a deep forward whose general strike rate in front of goal isn't all that bad. He is worth a look for the right price.

What's with all the heroes on here recently?

'Your opinion\suggestion sucks! I can't believe you said that! I'm clearly better than you and I know it'

Adam Tommlinson is the one I want, I see him emerging much like Tom Lynch has, very mobile, amazing workrate, good hands and skills and would compliment Hogan and Dawes really well in my opinion

would like to see pick 4 and 24 for Shiel and Tommlinson

Adam Tommlinson is the one I want, I see him emerging much like Tom Lynch has, very mobile, amazing workrate, good hands and skills and would compliment Hogan and Dawes really well in my opinion

would like to see pick 4 and 24 for Shiel and Tommlinson

He does want out but so far he hasn't been settled in a position. Has the rare pairing of speed and endurance along with his size. I don't know where his best position is but like a lot of his team mates he hasn't been handled well.

What's with all the heroes on here recently?

'Your opinion\suggestion sucks! I can't believe you said that! I'm clearly better than you and I know it'

lots of posters emerging from the darkness lol.

very bitter bunch, been through so much pain!