I've been a huge fan since the beginning, and I'd like him to stay as he makes our back line much stronger and will be even more valuable when we're a good team.

However that pathetic shepparding attempt that threw Terlich under the bus made my stomach turn.

Imagine Chip's reaction had someone done that to him.

I hope Roos is all over it in the team meeting / review.

Perhaps Jetta can do some assistant coaching and teach these bozos that you can still defend even when WE have the ball.

I could not believe the lack of awareness or interest to cover Terlich. How ironic that he calls for 100% improvement yet lacks the fundamentals....

Velvet Sledgehammer says that we should let him go, which means in my mind that we should definitely 100% keep him.

Lloyd is one of the worst 'journalists' out there.

I could not believe the lack of awareness or interest to cover Terlich. How ironic that he calls for 100% improvement yet lacks the fundamentals....

Yes, I only just thought about that after I posted it.

You want team improvement yet can't execute a basic yet highly important team fundamental?

Extract a finger.

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

I'd pay $800k for Fyfe.

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

No... That's his manager seeing what he can get, so he can go back to Frawley and say "Hawthorn is willing to give you $X..." And he can go to MFC and say "Hawthorn are willing to pay him $X to play for a contender, we want you to match it..."

If Frawley himself was meeting with them, then maybe you'd have a point.

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

Apparently, Fremantle turned down his manager's ask price of $700K. Looking like he can't chase a flag in the short-term and have the big money! 800k...700k...650k...? His manager seeming a bit of a dill.

Melbourne may not want to match any offers! Guess it will depend on the comp pick...unfortunately as his price goes down so does his comp pick.

I'd pay $800k for Fyfe.

I'd pay more.

Machsy frawley himself is not allowed to meet with them by free agency rules during the season, but as we know these deals are done well in advance of the end of the season, he has most likely told his management a ball park figure of what he feels could convince him to leave and his manager will try and create the best possible deal for him.

The lack of helping a team mate out (in the 3rd quarter I think it was) deep in our back pocket when Terlich gathered a ball, Frawley jogged and failed to apply a shepherd or body pressure to a much smaller opponent in Jamie Elliott who just ran around him and laid a tackle on Terlich which kept the ball locked in our defensive 50, would suggest to me he is not fully committed to the cause but it is only once incident although there have been several occassions where he has failed to apply a shepherd or second effort.

Common trait which is hard for him to break out of or something to read into who knows

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

Where's the loyal country lad in all of this ... or is that just some pathetic smoke screen?!

That he hasn't yet signed up to the club - as a leader of the club - is absolutely hopeless in my opinion.

Haven't kept on top of who is being head hunted by whom but did hear Mundy to Hawthorn is likely. How much would Hawks have to shell out for DM? Freo really into Chip as a result.

Velvet Sledgehammer says that we should let him go, which means in my mind that we should definitely 100% keep him.

Lloyd is one of the worst 'journalists' out there.

But he does know a bit about football.

That non shepherd was a shocker!

He's only played two good games this year.

Let's save the coin and go after Fyfe in a big way.

The lack of helping a team mate out (in the 3rd quarter I think it was) deep in our back pocket when Terlich gathered a ball, Frawley jogged and failed to apply a shepherd or body pressure to a much smaller opponent in Jamie Elliott who just ran around him and laid a tackle on Terlich which kept the ball locked in our defensive 50, would suggest to me he is not fully committed to the cause but it is only once incident although there have been several occassions where he has failed to apply a shepherd or second effort.

Common trait which is hard for him to break out of or something to read into who knows

Agree. I have seen him jogging after a player instead of running. His passing consists of kicking it high up in the air. I feel he has had a very poor year so far.

Who really cares if he goes

I don't believe he is in our best 10 now and if we get a decent compo let him go In fact I would tell his manager that we will offer 3 years at $450000 non negotiable ie lowball him and putsome pressure on. He is not worth the bother at the moment Just another distraction from the strategic plan of the future of the Dees Ignore him please.

That non shepherd was a shocker!

He's only played two good games this year.

Let's save the coin and go after Fyfe in a big way.

I could not believe the lack of awareness or interest to cover Terlich. How ironic that he calls for 100% improvement yet lacks the fundamentals....

Been getting away with average laziness for years and because he was one of the few "class' players,Ive always been mindful not to post about him or JW due to monster feedback from lovers of these 2.

Just cant believe some of his laziness and" i will try when i feel like" attitude hasnt been noted on here very often.

Maybe too many of us dont want the criticism for posting negatively about these 2.

Been getting away with average laziness for years and because he was one of the few "class' players,Ive always been mindful not to post about him or JW due to monster feedback from lovers of these 2.

Just cant believe some of his laziness and" i will try when i feel like" attitude hasnt been noted on here very often.

Maybe too many of us dont want the criticism for posting negatively about these 2.

You're entitled to your opinion jazza and you raise some salient points.

Is he potentially the last to go from a previous poor culture?

Where's the loyal country lad in all of this ... or is that just some pathetic smoke screen?!

That he hasn't yet signed up to the club - as a leader of the club - is absolutely hopeless in my opinion.

Can you please explain to me why 'leaders' at a club have to sign mid-season?

The lack of helping a team mate out (in the 3rd quarter I think it was) deep in our back pocket when Terlich gathered a ball, Frawley jogged and failed to apply a shepherd or body pressure to a much smaller opponent in Jamie Elliott who just ran around him and laid a tackle on Terlich which kept the ball locked in our defensive 50, would suggest to me he is not fully committed to the cause but it is only once incident although there have been several occassions where he has failed to apply a shepherd or second effort.

Common trait which is hard for him to break out of or something to read into who knows

are you guys serious about this. a non shepherd means he is leaving ? he lead up all day and took plenty of marks. Watts signed a new contract and misses shephards, tackles and lacks intent at times week in week out.

Frawley was playing as a key forward and was racking up the km's

Stan Alves looked pretty damn happy winning a flag in '77 after one season at North. That really made my stomach turn.

You do know that Skilton sacked him saying he was going on a youth program and Alves wasn't in his plans even though he was the Captain. Sound familiar. He got a call up from Barassi to go to Nth and couldn't believe his luck. He wouldn't have played anywhere that year without that call. He told me this himself.

I agree throw a mil a year at Fyfe chip leaves and we gain Hogan back

Last year I was genuinely concerned about the potential loss of Sylvia, in the end we effectively got Vince to replace him - who's performed far better in his short career here (on a consistent basis) than what Sylvia ever did.

My point is whether Frawley stays or goes I'm really not fazed (for once), as I'm certain the club already has a partial backup plan in order.

Previously we've seen Frawley restrict the likes of Cloke, Riewoldt (x2), and Franklin etc. to a small handful or sometimes non-existent bag of goals. This year he's been moved forward with the likes of Dunn, Garland, and McDonald holding down the backline - and doing a pretty good job as well.

Now I'm not sure what price he's asking but at this point for me he's no Harry Taylor, and I feel he needs to impose himself up forward more often to show he's worth the coin and that he can be one of the games best KPP swing-men. If he's lost our current defenders are more than capable, the compensation and spare change from his and Clark's salary will put us in a prime position to obtain another high end player (or 2) whether they're a forward or midfielder.

Now I'm not saying I want him gone, I want him to stay just like any other on here. I only feel the club will have a quality backup plan if he is to leave.

Edited June 11, 201411 yr by ignition.

You're entitled to your opinion jazza and you raise some salient points.

Is he potentially the last to go from a previous poor culture?

No I think Grimes will have that honour

No I think Grimes will have that honour

Wow! Big call! Feel like sharing?