VFL player reviews

[That's a Stretch 18]

I have just read last weeks reviews by Brett Allison and they are brutal. I like it. I am not sure if he has done them in the past but they are quite different from what I have read before?

Looks like Jordie is the only likely call up at the moment based on this.

[w00dy 146]

He's been doing most of them this season. They have been pretty honest all season, but these were the harshest so far. Very different to last year however, which gave us very little insight.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

I loved it. As you said, he was brutal. He's put it pretty clearly exactly what they are looking for from each of the players and who is improving in those areas. I'm really looking forward to the next one to see if he continues like this. If so, it will be very interesting to see who improves their standing with him over the next month or two.

[nutbean 8,838]

Wow Brett. Tell us what you really think ! No sugar coating there.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

I suppose if you are trying to break into an afl side you need to know where your game is weak and how to improve

[Frank Grimes 121]

i absolutely love it

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

It comes across as harsh, but not just for the sake of it. It looks like defensive running is the non-negotiable. Even Michie got 30 possessions but is plainly told his defensive running needs work. So it looks like Roos practice is not so much to drop players from the AFL 22, as it is to elevate people who earn it by repeated efforts at VFL level.

[Carrot Top 947]

It comes across as harsh, but not just for the sake of it. It looks like defensive running is the non-negotiable. Even Michie got 30 possessions but is plainly told his defensive running needs work. So it looks like Roos practice is not so much to drop players from the AFL 22, as it is to elevate people who earn it by repeated efforts at VFL level.

Agreed. 'Didn't work hard enough on his defensive game. He knows what he needs to do if he wants a senior game' is the mantra.

It's consistent, unyielding, and is showing results in the big league.

More please.

[S.R.J 418]

About bloody time too. Its great to see that you have to tick ALL THE BOXES and not just rack up 30 odd possession games.

[Vanilla Gorilla 204]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.
It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.
I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.
But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

[Go the Biff 3,423]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.

It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.

I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.

But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

I don't but then I'm not viewing the Round 7 review in isolation

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.

It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.

I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.

But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

No

[Go the Biff 3,423]

I have just read last weeks reviews by Brett Allison and they are brutal. I like it. I am not sure if he has done them in the past but they are quite different from what I have read before?

Looks like Jordie is the only likely call up at the moment based on this.

Yes he has although Brad Miller did Round 1.

Round 6

Round 5

Round 4

Round 3

Round 2

Round 1

Courtesy MFC website.

I find them informative & they give an indication of what players at Casey have to do to put themselves in the frame for senior selection

It's info to the members & fans. We can go & watch the senior team play & see for ourselves how players are performing. Or see games replayed or live on TV. Obviously the club knows that only a small percentage of the fanbase attend Casey games.

Those getting excited by Allison handing out whacks from Round 7 should maybe read a couple & get a broader appreciation of his reviews.

Except rpc who will be upset that the whole list isn't covered

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.

It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.

I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.

But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

Although it's been claimed that under Neeld the players were getting mixed messages from the coaching and development staff.

If Brett Allison's comments as published are consistent with what the players have been told privately, I have no problem with them being made public. And I would certainly prefer that players are reading the truth about their performance rather than some confected whitewash which might mislead them into thinking they played better than they really did.

[ManDee 7,148]

Although it's been claimed that under Neeld the players were getting mixed messages from the coaching and development staff.

If Brett Allison's comments as published are consistent with what the players have been told privately, I have no problem with them being made public. And I would certainly prefer that players are reading the truth about their performance rather than some confected whitewash which might mislead them into thinking they played better than they really did.

I wonder if it would be a good idea to publish weekly performance details of senior management in business or politicians or in fact any employee? Not sure that I would like it, I do slack off a lot and spend far too much time on here.

[binman 42,972]

It comes across as harsh, but not just for the sake of it. It looks like defensive running is the non-negotiable. Even Michie got 30 possessions but is plainly told his defensive running needs work. So it looks like Roos practice is not so much to drop players from the AFL 22, as it is to elevate people who earn it by repeated efforts at VFL level.

Yes Roos and other coaches have said that or a variation of it (eg need to bang the door down, string 5-6 top games together, need to be consistent etc etc) a number of times.I suppose its not rocket science but is a really interesting philosophy and no doubt has a big impact on the culture. The more usual approach i would have thought is drop players from the seniors when their form is poor, even if there isn't a player in the maggos who's form demands a spot.

One key outcome is that the team is very settled. I think i read we have used the least number of players of any club. It also means that players coming for injuries are generally going to be in form.

Another tick for the culture Roos is trying to build.

[binman 42,972]

Agreed. 'Didn't work hard enough on his defensive game. He knows what he needs to do if he wants a senior game' is the mantra.

It's consistent, unyielding, and is showing results in the big league.

More please.

Yep good point. I wonder if this is also an opportunity to reinforce to the fans what the club expects of its players and what its game plan is.

[rjay 24,928]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.

It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.

I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.

But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

I don't see anything harsh in the comments nor do I see it as players need a kick up..or whatever. It's just a single paragraph report on players in games most of us don't get to see and more often than not the ones who do see it have differing views.

If the reviews were personal attacks on the players then I would have a problem, they're not. They just spell out what is expected of performance and I'm sure the players get a lot more detail and instruction. There's nothing out of school here and I sure hope the people having a good whinge don't spoil it for those of us who are interested.

It's good to get the FD view. I found the reviews of past seasons absolutely offensive in that they took us for being fools.

The players aren't being precious but some on this forum sure are.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,053]

Does anyone else have a problem with this? I certainly do.

It's one thing to have open and harsh dialogue with players internally, it's quite another thing to do it in public.

I'm sure everything he said was completely founded, I have no problem with candid feedback.

But I think it's unnecessary to make those comments in a public forum.

And for those who say that the players need "a kick up the arse" or that players "shouldn't be so precious"…I believe a guy by the name of M. Neeld had a similar mentality.

I have no problem with it. In past years we have often complained that the reviews were all fluff and no substance. This time we're getting an honest assessment of the players, what they did well and what they failed to do. I'll take that every time. I'm pretty sure the players are all grown up enough to handle it.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Although it's been claimed that under Neeld the players were getting mixed messages from the coaching and development staff.

If Brett Allison's comments as published are consistent with what the players have been told privately, I have no problem with them being made public. And I would certainly prefer that players are reading the truth about their performance rather than some confected whitewash which might mislead them into thinking they played better than they really did.

I also think it helps others, the public to see the truth, & know what the players are asked to work on & are doing. Its not just about the winning, but also maybe working out of position, to work away their weak points. Blease back, Strauss forward.

I think it also helps to let the supporters relax & enjoy the VFL games, in the knowledge of the development thats in hand.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I wonder if it would be a good idea to publish weekly performance details of senior management in business or politicians or in fact any employee? Not sure that I would like it, I do slack off a lot and spend far too much time on here.

I think it would be a good idea for politicians to be on public record Re their expenses claimed, on a weekly basis.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I don't see anything harsh in the comments nor do I see it as players need a kick up..or whatever. It's just a single paragraph report on players in games most of us don't get to see and more often than not the ones who do see it have differing views.

If the reviews were personal attacks on the players then I would have a problem, they're not. They just spell out what is expected of performance and I'm sure the players get a lot more detail and instruction. There's nothing out of school here and I sure hope the people having a good whinge don't spoil it for those of us who are interested.

It's good to get the FD view. I found the reviews of past seasons absolutely offensive in that they took us for being fools.

The players aren't being precious but some on this forum sure are.

and if the vfl reports & other media were treating us as fools, the players would realise that & hey, they would start growing the same attitude of disrespect. & so it goes, the viscious cycle.

I find this far more open & transparent, which in turn shows us trust & Respect. & guess what they'll get back from us in return.

Edited May 23, 2014 by dee-luded

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

I think it would be a good idea for politicians to be on public record Re their expenses claimed, on a weekly basis.

I'd rather they concentrated on doing the job they were elected to do.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I'd rather they concentrated on doing the job they were elected to do.

for sure but their office should post the expense claims on a public forum.