I wouldnt mind seeing us target Heppell on the Ryder FA clause. Throw 800-1m at him a yr for 7 yrs.

Dont attack? And what the [censored] are you trying to do with every 2nd post I make which has nothing to do with you?

Grow up mate, poor form.

Ok.

Ignored.

The only issue with this is that the majority of the best key position forwards for any club in the league were first round draft picks. The only exceptions to that rule are Drew Petrie (pick 23), Crameri (rookie pick), father son picks (prior to the f/s being changed) and NSW scholarship players. Most of the following players haven't moved clubs as well:

Adelaide: Walker (taken as a NSW academy player)

Brisbane: Do they have one? Brown (father son)

Carlton: Henderson (pick 8)/ Waite (father son)

Collingwood: Cloke (father son)/ Reid (pick 8)

Essendon: Daniher (father son/ pick 10)

Freo: Pavlich (pick 4)

Geelong: Hawkins (father son)

Gold Coast: Dixon (outside of draft)/ Day(pick 3)/ Lynch (pick 11)

GWS: Boyd (pick 1)/ Patton (pick 1)/ Cameron (outside of draft)

Hawthorn: Roughead (pick 2)

Melbourne: Hogan (mini draft pick 2)

North Melbourne: Petrie (pick 23)

Power: Schulz (pick 12)

Richmond: Riewoldt (pick 13)

St Kilda: Riewoldt (pick 1)

Sydney: Franklin (pick 5)

WCE: Josh Kennedy (pick 5)

WB: Crameri (rookie pick)/ Stringer (pick 5)

The following players kicked over 30 goals in season 2014 as a 'tall' forward: Franklin, Roughead, Hawkins, Schulz, Kennedy, Riewoldt, Gunston, Riewoldt, Lynch, Pavlich, Petrie, Josh Jenkins, Darling, Cloke, Crameri, Walker, Tippett, Cameron, Waite

Bolded players are those not listed above and generally don't play as the number 1 forward. Gunston, Darling, Tippett were all early 2nd round picks, Josh Jenkins was a rookie pick.

Although it's a valid point that judging young talls on TAC cup form is flawed as they are often much bigger than their opponents (height wise at least) it must be noted that of the players I listed above the vast majority were either first round picks or father son picks (who would have likely gone first round). Unfortunately the stats are that it's only about 1/2 key forwards taken in the first round of the draft that make it, but it's the proven way of finding one.

Sometimes, sometimes not. I had a friend go through the TAC cup system who was 6'0 and 95kg at 17, he regularly played full back on the 6'4+/ 70kg talls because he could match them for speed and ragdoll them if it was a contested situation. Quite a few people he played on were early picks and he beat the majority of them convincingly.

Gotta get Lyon Neita and Ox to punch out a few sons asap. Hopefully PJ is onto this as a further succession plan to our forward line.

Sadly Gaz has three teenage boys and not one of them plays.

I reckon Cooper Schwarz is one to watch out for.

Will be another ten years, but Coop will take after his old man, I'm sure.

Hopefully in the Gazelle days!

Have we been linked to Tommy Mitchell? Surely Roosy would know him well. I haven't seen a lot of him but apparently he's got big wraps on him & not getting an opportunity at Sydney.

Tom Mitchell used to live with roosy

Tom Mitchell used to live with roosy

Bring it on! We want you Tom!

No doubt the club are chasing Tom Mitchell, i'm not sure how we could satisfy a trade without giving up a really good pick

unless they give us another player as well as Mitchell for pick 3

Maybe have a look at Daniel Robinson, Swans rookie. Inside mid averaging 30 possessions a game in NEAFL.

From Sydney but not getting a look in.

The kid impressed me in 2012 in under 18 carnival and taken by Swans as a rookie under academy.

I am from NSW and i am good mates with Dan. Hasn't been annouced yet but he just recently signed a new deal with the Swans.

Damn Sydney and their enviable list management.

Matt De boar out of contract and open to a trade for more opportunities

Matt De boar out of contract and open to a trade for more opportunities

Still only 24. Question is can he play midfield or just defensive forward. Because otherwise 1 Roh Bail is enough.

All depends on delistings and how many list spots we have but:Mitch Brown, George Burbury, Taylor Hunt, Jordy Schroder and Jesse Stringer

According to the HS all those cats are up for grabs.

Don't think too much of Burbury. Stringer has disposal issues but has some toe and can run. Schroder is an ok inside mid too good for VFL but maybe not AFL, I'd probably pass whilst we are working on Michie and Riley to fill spots. Hunt is interesting, makes dumb decisions and poor skills but fast and can tag. Mitch Brown is a strange player. Does some wonderful things then goes missing. Very similar to his old junior team mate Jack Watts. I don't mind him at CHB but he needs a fire lit under him.

Still only 24. Question is can he play midfield or just defensive forward. Because otherwise 1 Roh Bail is enough.

De Boer can win the ball well, great runner, very good defensively, but disposal has been an issue from his junior days, which he was only picked up as a rookie. I think his ball use is a factor in him not playing greater midfield minutes at Freo.

Bail’s a pretty good comparison in terms of overall game, perhaps his bigger body allows him to be a better clearance player.

Schroeder & Stringer I'd grab as depth.

Burbury was well liked but perhaps always injured?

Wouldn't mind trying to bring in Taylor Hunt. Sure, he's no world-beater, but he'd be a much better option than McKenzie.

Wasn't it floated that there might be a trade Blease for Hunt not too long ago? I'd be happy with that.

Carlton has been mentioned on every player named as a possible change of clubs.

Looks like they will need a list allowance of 80 players.

Carlton has been mentioned on every player named as a possible change of clubs.

Looks like they will need a list allowance of 80 players.

...and we haven't been far behind them.

All depends on delistings and how many list spots we have but:Mitch Brown, George Burbury, Taylor Hunt, Jordy Schroder and Jesse Stringer

According to the HS all those cats are up for grabs.

Don't think too much of Burbury. Stringer has disposal issues but has some toe and can run. Schroder is an ok inside mid too good for VFL but maybe not AFL, I'd probably pass whilst we are working on Michie and Riley to fill spots. Hunt is interesting, makes dumb decisions and poor skills but fast and can tag. Mitch Brown is a strange player. Does some wonderful things then goes missing. Very similar to his old junior team mate Jack Watts. I don't mind him at CHB but he needs a fire lit under him.

Further thoughts from an astute Cats supporter mate:

His view is that Burbury won't be up for trade. And he thinks they are mad if they let Schroder go.

Taylor Hunt - tagger, nothing more. Poor foot skills. Would trade for a Big Mac.

Mitch Brown - Works hard. Was in the best 22 at the start of the year. Good half forward (Geelong have chopped him from back to front so he hasn't really had a chance to settle)

Jesse Stringer - Inside midfielder. Ok pace, question marks on engine size. Has had off field issues.

Burbury - thinks he stays. Good mid sized forward. Nice kick, attacks the ball hard.

Schroder - Inside midfielder, good size. Won Liston Medal so can play. Doesn't think he is on the chopping block either.

Josh Cowan - Been injured long term. Gets body right, he is a jet. Very quick.

Jackson Sheringham - Another mid that is outside our best 22 and really dropped back a few pegs as some of the younger blokes went past him. Goes alright without being a superstar.

Burbury is the one I'd like, but then again, where does he play? Not a mid.

He's a specialist FP or HFF, but not really good enough at that, yet, to be a specialist.

I think he was a basketballer, from memory.

Schroder is a party boy. Talented, but commitment maybe not there.

Not quite big enough for the role he plays.

I wouldn't sign either, and we wouldn't need to trade in the end. They'll be delisted.

Cats are big fans of Cowan, but he has been perpetually injured for 5 years. Gone.

If Dangerfield doesn't want to leave the Crows then we should inquire about Luke Parker, he seemed to improve this season and is still young... Also.. Wouldn't hurt to look in to a Greenwood/Atley trade...

Parker and pick 18 for pick 2

Greenwood, Atley and pick 16 for pick 3

Since Schroeder was delisted I'd consider picking him up. He looked good at VFL level and difficult to break into cats side. Only thing to consider is why someone of the calibre was delisted- U'd think maybe he didn't buy into the geelong culture? then if so maybe he wouldn't be a great pick up.

Random but how about Matthew Wright from Adelaide. I love the way he plays footy... hard as nails, does the one percenters and has good skills. Was ripping it up in Adelaides midfield in the preseason but was played in the forward line all year. I rekon he could be a smoky if he was put into the midfield.

Since Schroeder was delisted I'd consider picking him up. He looked good at VFL level and difficult to break into cats side. Only thing to consider is why someone of the calibre was delisted- U'd think maybe he didn't buy into the geelong culture? then if so maybe he wouldn't be a great pick up.

Random but how about Matthew Wright from Adelaide. I love the way he plays footy... hard as nails, does the one percenters and has good skills. Was ripping it up in Adelaides midfield in the preseason but was played in the forward line all year. I rekon he could be a smoky if he was put into the midfield.

We are mad if we overlook Schroder. 21yo. Huge talent. Ready to shine.