Redjacket 760 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 In case anybody is interested Jordan Gysberts was delisted today from North Melbourne. I don't think this will come as a surprise to anybody. I think it further highlights the disgrace of our recruiting over the years. http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2013-10-28/north-melbourne-list-changes Gysberts arrived at Aegis Park at the conclusion of 2012 and was an emergency on several occasions, but didn’t play a senior game. The midfielder had played 19 matches with Melbourne.
angrydee 842 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Norf weren't stupid enough to offer him a three year contract.
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 hmm why didn't he make it? showed such promise at times.
Demonator 93 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I've never seen a snail paced skinny bloke.....until I saw Jordan Gysberts
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Apparently Jordan broke their Gym equipment...a big no-no
Demoneyes 562 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Looked good in a few games for us but that was it! Bad recuiting of another skinny kid!
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 We effectively got Pedersen for him they win !!
Bay Riffin 1,518 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Looked good in a few games for us but that was it! Bad recuiting of another skinny kid! was he on a one year contract, whilst Pederson was on 3 ? wow.
Swampfox 190 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Bit harsh Talent gets you on a list , working hard lets you stay there You might even get a senior game Gysberts debut game was pretty impressive Maybe he thought that was enough He was wrong
dees189227 12,509 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Wow he had 2 rising star nominations with us was a number 11 draft pick, starred against geelong and now delisted by north. Talk about a short career. Maybe he had a porr attiude or just didnt work hard enough under Brad Scott. Im sure someone will pick him up. But there must be a reason why he couldnt get 1 game for north during the season.
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/north-delists-four-more In June, Kangaroos assistant coach Darren Crocker revealed on the club's website that the midfielder's physical development was akin to a newly drafted player. "He's got to improve his fitness," Crocker said at the time. "In a physical sense, his strength is like a guy who has come into our club and starting from scratch." The rumours about his poor attitude to training appear to have significant merit. Three years into the system and being compared to 18yo draftees not yet exposed to an AFL environment is a serious indictment on his training habits.
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Geez I am so surprised! Didn't see that coming!!
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I'm sorry bit I can't agree with anyone that saw 'something' in this bloke. When he played that game against Geelong, none of their mids took even the faintest bit of notice of him, and so he accumulated possessions by pretty much being free at stoppages. They were simply useless possessions. Greenwood had 38 in one game this year but can't break into Norths engine room.. Why? Magner got over 50 in the VFL this year and didn't play the week after. Why? Cale Morton was averaging high numbers in his first few years when many here were frothing at the thought of our very own Adam Goodes. Numbers. Nothing but numbers. Why do people place so much emphasise on this stat on its own. This is the AFL. The elite. You're not suddenly a good player if you manage high numbers. Just like it doesn't make you a good player if you can only tackle well. Or only kick well. Raise the bar. Gysberts was an out of the blue pick and one of the laziest players I have laid my eyes upon. He did nothing in the champs to prove his worth as a top 20 draft pick and BP will go down as one of the worst AFL recruiters the game has seen. I'm sorry to be harsh, but it's infuriating. I've never seen anything to excite me when watching him play and that was the same with Morton.
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Another Brent Grgic but with a shorter UBD. Both looked so good but then WTF happened? I cringe at the days when we all crowing how a great deal we thought we got when we effectively swapped him for now reformed spud Mclean.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/north-delists-four-more In June, Kangaroos assistant coach Darren Crocker revealed on the club's website that the midfielder's physical development was akin to a newly drafted player. "He's got to improve his fitness," Crocker said at the time. "In a physical sense, his strength is like a guy who has come into our club and starting from scratch." The rumours about his poor attitude to training appear to have significant merit. Three years into the system and being compared to 18yo draftees not yet exposed to an AFL environment is a serious indictment on his training habits. Does beg the question though... Didnt they see this when they took him? Didnt they evaluate him ?
jnrmac 20,360 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Oh hang on I thought it was us who couldn't develop players??
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Does beg the question though... Didnt they see this when they took him? Didnt they evaluate him ? due to our poor player development they must have thought they could do something with him. but at the end if the day, if the kid doesn't want to work hard for it, he ain't ever gonna get it.
puntkick 325 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Does beg the question though... Didnt they see this when they took him? Didnt they evaluate him ? So many of our castoffs go on to be champeens of other clubs !
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I'm sorry bit I can't agree with anyone that saw 'something' in this bloke. When he played that game against Geelong, none of their mids took even the faintest bit of notice of him, and so he accumulated possessions by pretty much being free at stoppages. They were simply useless possessions. Greenwood had 38 in one game this year but can't break into Norths engine room.. Why? Magner got over 50 in the VFL this year and didn't play the week after. Why? Cale Morton was averaging high numbers in his first few years when many here were frothing at the thought of our very own Adam Goodes. Numbers. Nothing but numbers. Why do people place so much emphasise on this stat on its own. This is the AFL. The elite. You're not suddenly a good player if you manage high numbers. Just like it doesn't make you a good player if you can only tackle well. Or only kick well. Raise the bar. Gysberts was an out of the blue pick and one of the laziest players I have laid my eyes upon. He did nothing in the champs to prove his worth as a top 20 draft pick and BP will go down as one of the worst AFL recruiters the game has seen. I'm sorry to be harsh, but it's infuriating. I've never seen anything to excite me when watching him play and that was the same with Morton. Pfft. He wasn't out of the blue. He was a round earlier than expected. And it was for the need of midfielders with height. Freo in the grand final with Mundy, Barlow and Fyfe showed the benefit of bigger bodies at the clearances. You don't need to tell anyone about BP failings as a recruiter but it was obvious he recruited for types more than for talent. I agree he got his possessions without an opponent. But he still showed an ability to find the football and that shouldn't be disregarded. The long and the short of Gysberts for mine is that physically he was unable to stand out at VFL level and therefore unable to even step it up to AFL level. Without being in the inner circle you can't judge if that's due to just poor physical capacity or work rate or both. However 2 clubs giving up suggest a work rate component. Skill wise he wasn't great either so therefore he wasn't worth trying on a back or forward flank. If I was another club with a shortage of midfield depth I'd still take on Gysberts for a look at some training sessions. West Coast, Hawthorn, Sydney even Geelong should get him down for a preseason and see if he finally makes the step from built like an 18 year old to an AFL body. Jobe Watson, Mundy, Barlow, David Myers, Kennedy. Everyone says key forwards take time. In fairness the physical demands on inside midfield are probably even higher than that of key forward. Maybe it's time people realise to be 190cm and 90kg and run like a 175, 75kg guy and compete in strength battles takes years to develop as well
titan_uranus 25,252 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Oh hang on I thought it was us who couldn't develop players?? You think that the three years he spent here had no impact at all on his growing body? His maturing process was destroyed by two things - this club, and his own mindset. The persistent rumours of laziness and a lack of work ethic suggest a player who wasn't prepared to put in the hard yards to get the most out of what talent he had. The fact that he spent his formative years as an AFL player at the same club where Cale Morton, Lucas Cook, Jack Watts and co. all failed to develop muscle mass in line with draftees at other clubs indicates we did little to help him.
Demoneyes 562 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 You think that the three years he spent here had no impact at all on his growing body? His maturing process was destroyed by two things - this club, and his own mindset. The persistent rumours of laziness and a lack of work ethic suggest a player who wasn't prepared to put in the hard yards to get the most out of what talent he had. The fact that he spent his formative years as an AFL player at the same club where Cale Morton, Lucas Cook, Jack Watts and co. all failed to develop muscle mass in line with draftees at other clubs indicates we did little to help him. Yes, but it also comes down to the person themselves. Some expect it laid on a platter, others take the bull by the horns! The Gys was not one of the latter!
whatwhat say what 23,836 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I think it's a real shame. Looks like he had the talent but not the application.
DemonWA 3,941 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 not that im proud of it, but I was always a fan of Gysberts! Too good for VFL, but not good enough for AFL?!
Crackers 67 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Lucas Cook and Jordan Gysberts. How can BP and even Bailey to an extent as he wouldve had input dtill be employeed at AFL clubs
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