2013 Player Review - # 5 Jimmy Toumpas

[Demonland 72,161]

A young player with considerable talent but thrown in at the deep end at a club that was drowning. He failed to rise to the occasion but showed late in the season that he has the ingredients to justify his reputation in junior ranks. Toumpas faces a big pre season as he aspires to do better in 2014

Games MFC 2013 14 Career Total 14

Goals MFC 2013 0 Career Total 0

Games CSFC 2013 5 Goals CSFC 2013 1

Keith "Bluey" Truscott Memorial Trophy 143 votes

[Matt Demon 1,418]

Definitely looking forward to see Jimmy next year. It was always going to be a slow start for him given his hip operations & barely doing any pre season. Let's be fair & judge him after a decent preparation.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

I can't remember which senior player said that Jimmy was the type of personality you wanted at the club. Bubbly, smiley, personable and always looking to improve

As others have mentioned in the other Toumpas thread he should come on in leaps and bounds with an injury free pre-season.

I reckon he will become a crowd favourite when he gets a few more games under his belt

[dazzledavey36 54,863]

A dedicated and ultra professional young players driving standards in years to come.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Seems like a really good character but as said above he was thrown into the deep end.

Could have kept him in the VFL for the year - no shame in that.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,238]

He looked like a fish out of water at times but also showed some poise- particularly towards the end of the year. He certainly didn't match Wines' efforts but let's see how he develops in 2014.

[monoccular 17,425]

He looked like a fish out of water at times but also showed some poise- particularly towards the end of the year. He certainly didn't match Wines' efforts but let's see how he develops in 2014.

BBO - I was just wondering how long it would take for Wines' name to come up in this thread.

Wines certainly had a great first year - played in a confident team on the rapid rise, in a mature strong midfield - so would almost by necessity have a better year than our Dimitri, with a injury spoiled preseason, in a poorly managed team with little confidence.

Of course one can never know, but had the selections gone the other way I wonder if posters here would be decrying missing out on the guy who played in a strong midfield in a team that unexpectedly played finals, whilst Ollie played without support in a directionless team and struggled at times?

[beelzebub 23,350]

He will certainly benefit for the company of some other and more mature bodies in the middle. An uninterrupted pre cant/wont hurt either. he's really amongst about a dozen who ought to add to the equation come 14

[Demon_Tingles 211]

I am so over this Ollie Wines V Toumpas crap. I can almost guarantee that Wines would have been copping flack from our supporters for being too much like Nathan Jones and we needed an outside player who has skills blah blah blah ... With Viney and Jones leading the way in the middle and a pre season under his belt Toumpas will show us his elite skills in due course. Now of that I am sure. I have a lot of faith in him and I believe he will develop into possibly our best ball user in time.

[Demonland 72,161]

Finding balance the key: Toumpas

What I was expecting of myself was way too much and I needed to appreciate where I was at with my body and in terms of my surgeries and my fitness. - Jimmy Toumpas

[Earl Hood 6,086]

I am so over this Ollie Wines V Toumpas crap. I can almost guarantee that Wines would have been copping flack from our supporters for being too much like Nathan Jones and we needed an outside player who has skills blah blah blah ... With Viney and Jones leading the way in the middle and a pre season under his belt Toumpas will show us his elite skills in due course. Now of that I am sure. I have a lot of faith in him and I believe he will develop into possibly our best ball user in time.

I am still not sure, let us use 2014 to judge where he is at. Also let us hope there is a competitive inside mid field operating to get the ball out to him so he can maximise his skills.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

He certainly didn't match Wines' efforts but let's see how he develops in 2014.

I'm going to keep re-posting this because it is driving me insane.. STOP mentioning Wines every time Toumpas is in discussion

1. Toumpas was rated higher universally and every club would have taken him at pick 3! (just like Morton, Watts etc)

2. We are not in the business of recruiting blokes based on who they are mates with

3. They are 1 year in to 10-12 year careers how stupid are you to pass judgement already

4. Every draft there are players taken at lower picks than others that end up better, it doesn't just go in perfect order

5. How can you determine the impact of the development program/coaching at one club vs another

6. How can you determine the impact of being in a top8 side vs a bottom 2 side?

7. Toomp has actually been OK anyway! He has gotten better as its gone on

such a stupid point that so many keep raising, I wonder if it is all 13 year olds around here sometimes

my favourite is when someone reviews the last 3-4 drafts, chooses the player that is currently considered the best and goes 'OMG instead of so and so we could have had so and so'

it really is a mental process that defies belief

[dazzledavey36 54,863]

I am still not sure, let us use 2014 to judge where he is at. Also let us hope there is a competitive inside mid field operating to get the ball out to him so he can maximise his skills.

So your going to use his second year to judge where he is in terms compared to Wines??

Wow....

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

So your going to use his second year to judge where he is in terms compared to Wines??

Wow....

exactly

these are the same people who were like 'OMG we took Watts over Naitanui'

fast forward one year you'd have to have rocks in your head to swap them

fast forward another year it might be different again

fast forward ten years and and tommy mac at pick53 or Howe at pick33 might end up being the MVPs of their draft

stupid stupid stupid

[ignition. 1,466]

Jimmy Toumpas ‏@JToumpas 2m

Bring pre season on baby!!!!! pic.twitter.com/2s5sX6zXdi

[dazzledavey36 54,863]

Jimmy Toumpas ‏@JToumpas 19h

Great news to have another show faith in the club. Good to have you on board Viv! #godees

Future Leader this bloke!

[Carlos Danger 380]

exactly

these are the same people who were like 'OMG we took Watts over Naitanui'

fast forward one year you'd have to have rocks in your head to swap them

fast forward another year it might be different again

fast forward ten years and and tommy mac at pick53 or Howe at pick33 might end up being the MVPs of their draft

stupid stupid stupid

'Rocks in your head' is a good call but I don't think it's in the way you intended.

From the day they were drafted until right now, Naitanui has undoubtedly been the better pick.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Deez Nutz

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Glad with that Toumpas article saying he went at it the wrong way- given me much more respect for him and he did what more of our players should do- Identify where they do wrong. He lacked a role in the team and an attacking mindset, good skills but poor awareness, strength and average speed. Needs to either put on 10 kilos or start breaking lines and importantly kick goals.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

'Rocks in your head' is a good call but I don't think it's in the way you intended.

From the day they were drafted until right now, Naitanui has undoubtedly been the better pick.

was it his 5 kicks a match, 13th most ave hitouts or 8 goals for the year that removed all doubt?

[Carlos Danger 380]

was it his 5 kicks a match, 13th most ave hitouts or 8 goals for the year that removed all doubt?

One injury-plagued season really doesn't change a whole lot.

At 100% match fitness, you're comparing a top 5 ruckman to a player who isn't top 20 at any position.