Carlton delist 8

[dee-luded 2,958]

Luke Mitchell, Patrick McCarthy, Marcus Davies and Aaron Joseph have been informed that they will not be offered new contracts.

Rookies Rhys OKeeffe, Frazer Dale and Andrew Collins will also depart.

Also Jeremy Laidler has informed the Club he wishes to seek further opportunity elsewhere.

[Whispering_Jack 28,015]

Why am I expecting eight new threads to spring up on the other board in the next few hours?

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

WHO??

[Young Dee 1,303]

Any talent there?

Jeremy Laidler - whats he like? (must be alright if he thinks he deserves a game)

Could he be a replacement for Dunn or Sellar?

AFL: "He had an outstanding 2011 and was a good performer in two finals before injuring his knee in round four the next season. He missed the rest of the year."

VFL 2013 - Round 10 - Player Highlights - Jeremy Laidler Edited September 18, 2013 by Young Dee

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Laidler was rated highly by a lot of Carlton fans but couldn't get a game under Malthouse for some reason.

[Whispering_Jack 28,015]

Seriously though, there's an irony when looking at some of these delistings that Carlton's recruiting early in this decade has been as bad as ours. They went tall a few years ago when they felt strong in the midfield and came up with Mitchell, McCarthy, Watson & McInnes and have bombed out there and some of their trades don't look very healthy either. The other irony is that Barry Prendergast works for the Blues albeit not in a recruiting capacity.

[Young Dee 1,303]

Laidler was rated highly by a lot of Carlton fans but couldn't get a game under Malthouse for some reason.

Would be a good depth player and replacement for Sellar or Dunn I think.

Problem is would he come to us if he thought he was a depth player? He would probably be our fourth tall behind Frawely, Garland and McDonald.

Born: August 5, 1989 (age 24)

Height: 1.89 m

Weight: 88 kg

[nutbean 8,837]

Wasn't Mitchell going to be the next big thing ?

[rjay 23,945]

Seriously though, there's an irony when looking at some of these delistings that Carlton's recruiting early in this decade has been as bad as ours. They went tall a few years ago when they felt strong in the midfield and came up with Mitchell, McCarthy, Watson & McInnes and have bombed out there and some of their trades don't look very healthy either. The other irony is that Barry Prendergast works for the Blues albeit not in a recruiting capacity.

The lesson 'Jack' is to draft best available. You can't draft for needs, this practice always comes unstuck.

...and beware of Barry.

[ChaserJ 3,972]

Profiles on McCarthy from Emma Quayle, Paul Daffy and Jay Clark pre 2010 draft:

(Ranking) 20. PAT McCARTHY

(Glenelg, 18, 196cm, 85kg)

Has a few centimetres on Glenelg teammate Tape and, like him, reads the play well and can take a mark. Spent time in the ruck when younger and can also go forward and have an influence. Skilful, athletic and kind of soothing: can calm things down by taking a mark then stepping back to assess things.

Where will he be picked?

(AFL.com Phantom Draft pick)23. GEELONG - Pat McCarthy
Height: 196cm
Weight: 84kg
DOB: 11/03/92
Club: Glenelg (SA)
Draft range: 15-35
Tall utility who can take a mark and hare downfield. Height enables him to play on tall opponents, but he's also handy on smaller opponents. Sees himself as a forward or back but he seems best suited to playing as the third defender. The Cats like his leadership potential.

(Clarkys Phantom draft pick)18. Carlton - Pat McCarthy (18, tall defender/forward, Glenelg SA)
Resembles: Nathan Bock (Gold Coast)

Huge bargain if he slips this far as some rate him top-10. More of a third defender than a gorilla stopper, but his damaging rebound is a key weapon. Athletic and clean skills.

Make of it what you will, not sure if he get's another chance. From what I gather Mitchell and O'Keefe definitely had injury problems whilst at Carlton. Ulitmately Mitchell probably lacked mobility and not up to AFL standard as a key forward.

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

Has Dunn been delisted? Surely not!

[DeeSpencer 23,256]

Mitchell and McCarthy are always injured and not much good anyway. Davies and Joseph aren't up to it.

Laidler is the interesting one. He was great when he came to Carlton. Can intercept mark and use the footy although his speed is a concern. Very much a third tall forward.

In my opinion he's a much better player than Dunn, although Dunn does have more versatility to play tall or small.

I'd have some interest because you know he can play and he'd be another guy who's at least up to AFL or around the mark when so much of our list aren't.

We can't get rid of Dunn but we could delist a Jetta or Nicholson who I think won't ever make it and put this guy on the list.

[Sir Why You Little 34,657]

Paul Roos will know who to pick. It's why he is here.

Turns nobodies into hard workers. Free Agency is just right for Roos.

I think every club is going to trade heavy now.

It's the way the players wanted it.

[45HG 1,539]

So they're keeping Bell?

[hardtack 10,127]

Paul Roos will know who to pick. It's why he is here.

Turns nobodies into hard workers. Free Agency is just right for Roos.

No, no, no... there are people on these forums who know a lot better. Just ask them, they'll tell you.

[dee-luded 2,958]

The lesson 'Jack' is to draft best available. You can't draft for needs, this practice always comes unstuck.

...and beware of Barry.

the lesson is to draft in the best boards people who have some real footy acumen... & to then setup a great footy oriented administration, & from there the footy dept.

IMO after all this is set inplace we should expect better decisions being made at all levels.

I hope we one day move our boardroom away from the MCG, & into our proper home base... I think then, bad decisions will be made Less Often.

[old dee 22,944]

No, no, no... there are people on these forums who know a lot better. Just ask them, they'll tell you.

They are still trying to tell us Gysberts was just bad development!

[Redleg 37,891]

They are still trying to tell us Gysberts was just bad development!

It's the easy way out for a mistake. Just say he wasn't developed.

[DeeSpencer 23,256]

They are still trying to tell us Gysberts was just bad development!

im no Gysberts fan but 30 disposals on debut at Geelong. Even if he was drafted a round too soon he had talent.

Great news is we now have new recruiters and player developers

[DemonDave 1,078]

So they're keeping Bell?

One of the biggest spuds Ive ever seen, both figuratively and literally. Watched a few VFL games he played in, especially the one against Casey where the amount of disposals he got was made totally redundant by his butchering of almost every one of them. It made some of our washed up hacks that played that day look like Travis Johnstone skills wise.

I loved it that Blues fans would always ring up SEN complaining he wasnt getting a game 'he plays like Kouta' they'd whine.