Demetriou Should be Sacked Now

[Whispering_Jack 29,370]

Stephen Danks

You're kidding.

Right?

[Freddy Fuschia 730]

Stephen Danks

In the chain of corporate governance the buck might well have started with Danks but it sure as hell flows all the way up to the top. Demetriou knew there were potential problems with Essendope, peptides and sports scientists in general. He simply wasn't vigilant enough and didn't act soon enough.

Edited October 3, 2013 by Freddy Fuschia

[Whispering_Jack 29,370]

Hmmm ...

AFL chief Andrew Demetriou at risk of legal safety breach

[Whispering_Jack 29,370]

Then there's this one - GWS Giants to push for extra handout

In the normal course, the decision would have been made by the AFL Commission.

Who decides now?

[jnrmac 19,945]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/afl-boss-andrew-demetriou-must-resign-or-be-sacked-following-essendon-saga/story-fnii5qqe-1226777144104

Bump. The mud gets thicker and stickier. Dimwit has failed on so many fronts.

Jug ears who has no shame nor a moral compass is gunning for him and now the media smell blood.

The Wylie involvement is a massive breach of integrity.

Must go and soon.

[dazzledavey36 53,404]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/james-hirds-wife-tania-says-andrew-demetriou-knew-about-payments-to-suspended-coach/story-fni5f6kv-1226781015902

Oh Dear Andy...

[rpfc 28,084]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/afl-boss-andrew-demetriou-must-resign-or-be-sacked-following-essendon-saga/story-fnii5qqe-1226777144104

Bump. The mud gets thicker and stickier. Dimwit has failed on so many fronts.

Jug ears who has no shame nor a moral compass is gunning for him and now the media smell blood.

The Wylie involvement is a massive breach of integrity.

Must go and soon.

Rebecca Wilson seeing an opportunity to 'score one for League' doesn't convince me of anything.

He has been in charge long enough and perhaps it is time for a change but his sacking fixes nothing when it comes to Essendon's belligerence and the drugs saga that is not resolved - as much as Wilson thinks everyone at Essendon has gotten away with it.

[Slartibartfast 16,968]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/james-hirds-wife-tania-says-andrew-demetriou-knew-about-payments-to-suspended-coach/story-fni5f6kv-1226781015902

Oh Dear Andy...

Oh yeh, I'm sure Jimmy has told Tanya the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Those wanting to see AD gone should be careful what they wish for.

[jnrmac 19,945]

Oh yeh, I'm sure Jimmy has told Tanya the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Those wanting to see AD gone should be careful what they wish for.

That would be me. And I'd be happy to see him go.

[old55 23,078]

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/james-hirds-wife-tania-says-andrew-demetriou-knew-about-payments-to-suspended-coach/story-fni5f6kv-1226781015902

Oh Dear Andy...

Oh dear Tania more likely

[Dockett 32 1,238]

In the chain of corporate governance the buck might well have started with Danks but it sure as hell flows all the way up to the top. Demetriou knew there were potential problems with Essendope, peptides and sports scientists in general. He simply wasn't vigilant enough and didn't act soon enough.

I think you might be getting close to it Freddy but how come no mention of MF in all of this. Surely it's his time at bat now?

[Slartibartfast 16,968]

That would be me. And I'd be happy to see him go.

It wasn't AD who instigated the tanking investigation, in fact he did all he could to squash it to the point of being seen to be incompetent. He didn't want it because of what it would do to the AFL brand and MFC.

Adrian Anderson instigated it when AD was overseas and if he'd been given total control of it we'd be in a far worse position than we are now. AD minimised the damage and then instigated a rescue package for us.

When you're a CEO of a complex business like the AFL for 10+ years you will muck up at times and AD is not without his mistakes. But when measured against his KPI he's done a fantastic job and done very well by our club given the situations we've presented him with.

[Slartibartfast 16,968]

In the chain of corporate governance the buck might well have started with Danks but it sure as hell flows all the way up to the top. Demetriou knew there were potential problems with Essendope, peptides and sports scientists in general. He simply wasn't vigilant enough and didn't act soon enough.

You'd say the same about Don and Jim would you Freddy?

[daisycutter 29,453]

for a person who was so adamant on good governance and transparency at the mfc you now seem to be saying that that is secondary to kpis when judging the afl

i can't see how achieving the ends justifies dodgy means when it comes to good governance

you are not being very consistent and looking like a ad fanboi

[DemonFrog 1,347]

It wasn't AD who instigated the tanking investigation, in fact he did all he could to squash it to the point of being seen to be incompetent. He didn't want it because of what it would do to the AFL brand and MFC.

Adrian Anderson instigated it when AD was overseas and if he'd been given total control of it we'd be in a far worse position than we are now. AD minimised the damage and then instigated a rescue package for us.

When you're a CEO of a complex business like the AFL for 10+ years you will muck up at times and AD is not without his mistakes. But when measured against his KPI he's done a fantastic job and done very well by our club given the situations we've presented him with.

Vlad welcome to Demonland.

Don't worry what the boys are saying here as we really love you

So please keep the money coming and we will love you more.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

You're kidding.

Right?

Sorry WJ, it appears I did not answer your question.

Yes I was kidding LOL

[Bedraggled Dee 336]

I think you might be getting close to it Freddy but how come no mention of MF in all of this. Surely it's his time at bat now?

Its an interesting question, how much say should the AFL have in the nternal practices at a club. There is no doubt that the AFL in hindisght should probably have acted a few years ago to better regulate the growing supplements and sports science areas of clubs to ensure it was overseen by the clubs medical departments but I doubt this would have stopped the Essendon debarkle given they ra roughshod over Doc anyway. I also doubt prior to this that anyone would have liked the AFL scruitinising in detail clubs practicies especially in areas where the clubs considered they had competitive advantage.

The onus to operate legally and within the bounds of ASADA/WADA rules is squarely on the players firstly then the clubs. The overall governance by the AFL can only be at a corporate level, they have no day to day governance over internal club processes and procedures.

[Slartibartfast 16,968]

for a person who was so adamant on good governance and transparency at the mfc you now seem to be saying that that is secondary to kpis when judging the afl

i can't see how achieving the ends justifies dodgy means when it comes to good governance

you are not being very consistent and looking like a ad fanboi

You seem to be very confused about the relationship between the AFL, its Board and the individual clubs.

[daisycutter 29,453]

You seem to be very confused about the relationship between the AFL, its Board and the individual clubs.

not at all

governance applies at all those levels, it's not just reserved for boards

[Sir Why You Little 36,762]

I want to know WADA's final judgement before i think of sacking Vlad.

Tania Hird is just noise. It will pass.

[Bedraggled Dee 336]

I want to know WADA's final judgement before i think of sacking Vlad.

Tania Hird is just noise. It will pass.

I dont think its just noise. She and her husband are thumbing their noses at the AFL and challenging the games authority. The onus is now on the AFL to act but they may have bugger all legal ground to stand on if the reports on the agreements are correct.

The media campaign by Hird since getting back from France is not opportunistic, it is a planned and orchestrated campaign by Hird his legal team and PR advisors to embarass the AFL and bring down Demitriou. He was never happy with the settlement and this wont end till it ends up in court becuase he clearly believes he had been wronged and want to clear his and his families name.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,766]

Oh yeh, I'm sure Jimmy has told Tanya the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Those wanting to see AD gone should be careful what they wish for.

I don't know if it's relevant, but I heard from someone reasonably close to the Hird family that Tanya absolutely calls the shots in that family.

(That's Tanya Hird, not Tanya Hide, Bob!)

[Sir Why You Little 36,762]

I dont think its just noise. She and her husband are thumbing their noses at the AFL and challenging the games authority. The onus is now on the AFL to act but they may have bugger all legal ground to stand on if the reports on the agreements are correct.

The media campaign by Hird since getting back from France is not opportunistic, it is a planned and orchestrated campaign by Hird his legal team and PR advisors to embarass the AFL and bring down Demitriou. He was never happy with the settlement and this wont end till it ends up in court becuase he clearly believes he had been wronged and want to clear his and his families name.

Good Luck trying to beat the AFL once WADA hand down a final verdict.

Hird was senior coach. Why would one be angry on a $mill a year?

Tania Hird is just noise. A distraction.

[Slartibartfast 16,968]

I don't know if it's relevant, but I heard from someone reasonably close to the Hird family that Tanya absolutely calls the shots in that family.

(That's Tanya Hird, not Tanya Hide, Bob!)

Thanks for the clarification Jack, I was distracted for a moment!

[Machsy 2,858]

Stephen Danks

How on earth, after all this time, and all the times his name has been written, are there STILL people that have not get figured out that his name is "Stephen Dank"..?!