Could we possibly get Shiel and Buntine or Bugg for pick 2? They can keep 9..

I hope we play hard ball, seems like GWS really want pick 2.

A good on-ball player and a pick in the top 10 in exchange for our pick 2 would not be a bad choice for us.

Reading the plethora of posts regarding numerous on-ball prospects and their 'rankings', it would seem that there is no agreement on who we should/would choose with pick 2.

Opinions are varied and cover a range of youngsters. Who is to say that Aish, said by many to be the best of them, would give better value to us than a good player from another club and pick 9 or 10?

Whatever their decision, I have full confidence in Paul Roos et al to do a good deal for us.

Yep - definitely a pattern there.

Myers is concerningly big.........

What 191 and 92KGs???

Watts is 196 and 92kgs and he looks skinny

Hogan is 195cm and 102kgs

Pendlebury is 191cm and 91kgs. he goes alrighth

Goldsack is 193cm and 92kgs

He might be big...for Melbourne because he is. But its hardly concerning. Its exactly what we need.

Will be an absolute gun. -)

Delete c Sylvia and insert C Pederson

What 191 and 92KGs???

Watts is 196 and 92kgs and he looks skinny

Hogan is 195cm and 102kgs

Pendlebury is 191cm and 91kgs. he goes alrighth

Goldsack is 193cm and 92kgs

He might be big...for Melbourne because he is. But its hardly concerning. Its exactly what we need.

I agree and if people think Myers is big, Josh Kennedy is 188cm and 100kg - that is enormous for a midfielder.

Let's not forget Goodes at 194cm and 100kg though he is a once in a generation kind of player.

Will be an absolute gun. -)

Spud gun?

What 191 and 92KGs???

Watts is 196 and 92kgs and he looks skinny

Hogan is 195cm and 102kgs

Pendlebury is 191cm and 91kgs. he goes alrighth

Goldsack is 193cm and 92kgs

He might be big...for Melbourne because he is. But its hardly concerning. Its exactly what we need.

I was just joking around.... suggesting that he could have been one of the Bombers lab rats.

Plus there is a lot of size/weight difference when you are talking 5cm - Watts doesn't look like this:

Edited October 17, 201311 yr by Young Dee

You mean cos he has the ball and is about to get tackled?

Mock all you want!

Pedo will be okay....big bodied midfielder.

Come on, get stuck in.....bring it.

Mock all you want! Pedo will be okay....big bodied midfielder. Come on, get stuck in.....bring it.

I refuse to believe anything other than that comment being completely sarcastic.

Edited October 17, 201311 yr by stevethemanjordan

Pick 3, Kennedy (a recent pick 4) and pick 20 for Judd.

Urgh.

What an ugly deal for Carlton.

Mock all you want!

Pedo will be okay....big bodied midfielder.

Come on, get stuck in.....bring it.

Are you being serious?

Mock all you want!

Pedo will be okay....big bodied midfielder.

Come on, get stuck in.....bring it.

Your on drugs!

Here's a pitch from wide left field. Dunn an occasional hit out in the midfield in a non tagging role???

If he wins the ball anywhere from 60 metres in he could slot a few goals for us?

I saw Pedo play against the Cats at skilled this year for Casey and he was so dominant playing at full back that I was in shock. Nobody could touch him and he was hitting 60m clearing balls lace out to targets coming out of the back 50.

But every time I saw him play for Melbourne he was a shadow of that player.

Not sure why he can't make the transition but I hazard a guess it's all between the ears. He did the same thing at North.

Maybe Roos can help him.

I saw Pedo play against the Cats at skilled this year for Casey and he was so dominant playing at full back that I was in shock. Nobody could touch him and he was hitting 60m clearing balls lace out to targets coming out of the back 50.

Be careful... Magner and Couch probably dominated that day too and look where they are now

I saw Pedo play against the Cats at skilled this year for Casey and he was so dominant playing at full back that I was in shock. Nobody could touch him and he was hitting 60m clearing balls lace out to targets coming out of the back 50.

But every time I saw him play for Melbourne he was a shadow of that player.

Not sure why he can't make the transition but I hazard a guess it's all between the ears. He did the same thing at North.

Maybe Roos can help him.

not necessarily.

self belief can be a mysterious thing. it'll arrive, when your ready.

many AFL people must think he has talent, so we need to help him develop 'it' into production.

I'd back the Roos team as much as any going, to slowly build him into a strong player... time we have, & it will eventually tell all.

Your on drugs![/quote

No. The only place he could play is as a midfielder.

He's failed everywhere else.

He needs to be worked til he drops over the preseason and made into an inside mid.

Or play at Casey fir the next two years

Not sure why the rumour thread turned into the Pederson thread but anyway.

Pederson played a sterling game v GWS up there.

not necessarily.

self belief can be a mysterious thing. it'll arrive, when your ready.

many AFL people must think he has talent, so we need to help him develop 'it' into production.

I'd back the Roos team as much as any going, to slowly build him into a strong player... time we have, & it will eventually tell all.

Yes, I think we could do with another big bodied defender. I think when we play sides with two or three big attacking options eg where the Swans are now, I think we are better off having Garland as the fourth tall after Frawley, McDonald and yes Pederson. As good a player as Garland is, I think he can, like Rivers, struggle against big opposition. Pederson is also big enough to match up on the resting ruckmen as well. If Roos could get him to play to his potential he may become a handy player for us.

Mind you, ALL teams will have the same problem matching up on us this year. There will be very few who have the cattle to go toe to toe with Clark, Hogan, Howe and Dawes, and throw in big Max and it will be a nightmare for opposition backs. It also goes to emphasize the importance of getting a classy crumbling forward. I'm sure they are looking, and probably have someone lined up in the draft ot the PSD.

This all of course pre supposes we fix our mid field otherwise we won't get it down there often enough to score anyway. I think the signs so far are good and we will make real progress between now and December on that score.

Edited October 17, 201311 yr by Dees2014

Dunn and Pederson in the midfield... Rumour thread or comedy festival?

Might as well trade pick 2 and run Bootsma and and Spangher through the middle as well, have us all rolling in the aisles.

Dunn and Pederson in the midfield... Rumour thread or comedy festival?

Might as well trade pick 2 and run Bootsma and and Spangher through the middle as well, have us all rolling in the aisles.For

Pick 2 would not suffice for Sir Matthew Spangher. Hogan and Viney would need to be the steak knives to get the deal over the line. Once in a lifetime player

Dunn and Pederson in the midfield... Rumour thread or comedy festival?

Might as well trade pick 2 and run Bootsma and and Spangher through the middle as well, have us all rolling in the aisles.

As for Bootsma, he can get [censored]. One of the worst players i have ever seen

Yes, I think we could do with another big bodied defender. I think when we play sides with two or three big attacking options eg where the Swans are now, I think we are better off having Garland as the fourth tall after Frawley, McDonald and yes Pederson. As good a player as Garland is, I think he can, like Rivers, struggle against big opposition. Pederson is also big enough to match up on the resting ruckmen as well. If Roos could get him to play to his potential he may become a handy player for us.

Mind you, ALL teams will have the same problem matching up on us this year. There will be very few who have the cattle to go toe to toe with Clark, Hogan, Howe and Dawes, and throw in big Max and it will be a nightmare for opposition backs. It also goes to emphasize the importance of getting a classy crumbling forward. I'm sure they are looking, and probably have someone lined up in the draft ot the PSD.

This all of course pre supposes we fix our mid field otherwise we won't get it down there often enough to score anyway. I think the signs so far are good and we will make real progress between now and December on that score.

I always saw Garland as the 3rd tall back, c an pinch as a 2nd but only on right matchups. these days its more likely to find that tho.

people are angry with Pederson because he came via the loss of ribvers & moloney & the retirement of Green etc. so the timing of all this is used to frown on pederson. I'd like to know how much he's on as I don't think it would be that much.

I don't think he cost us much really, & if the worst he is, is depth, than thats OK. we need mature bodied depth as well. I'm hoping for more from him.

Dunn and Pederson in the midfield... Rumour thread or comedy festival?

Might as well trade pick 2 and run Bootsma and and Spangher through the middle as well, have us all rolling in the aisles.

dunn to the saints for P55 & its a deal ?

I always saw Garland as the 3rd tall back, c an pinch as a 2nd but only on right matchups. these days its more likely to find that tho.

people are angry with Pederson because he came via the loss of ribvers & moloney & the retirement of Green etc. so the timing of all this is used to frown on pederson. I'd like to know how much he's on as I don't think it would be that much.

I don't think he cost us much really, & if the worst he is, is depth, than thats OK. we need mature bodied depth as well. I'm hoping for more from him.

Not that it's his fault, but I'd say his three year contract has played a role in the frustration of supporters. There's also the fact that he's had bugger all impact onfield too.